The Black Plague of Tamriel : IV - Oblivion

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:36 pm

post 100....and still no answer

I patched OOO (I think) put the bashed patch into my data folder, ran boss...and REORGANIZED ALL of those stupid unknowns...

here is my new LO

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  TR_OoT_Main.esm02  AWS-Core.esm03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]04  Diverse Wisps - Base.esm05  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm06  BetterMusicSystem.esm07  CM Partners.esm08  HorseCombatMaster.esm09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0A  AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp0B  Books of Console v1.esp0C  TryBeforeYouBuy.esp0D  Update My Statue.esp  [Version 1.30]0E  Living Economy.esp0F  Living Economy - Items.esp10  BlackLuster.esp11  Western Armor.esp12  Growlfs Animated Hair.esp13  R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp14  AHIRUs_Glasses_v1.esp15  Hentai_AthenaArmour.esp16  Lamayo's Dragon Bow.esp17  HaydoxRapier.esp18  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]19  Versa's Item and Flora Overhaul.esp1A  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]1B  Diverse Wisps - for Vanilla.esp1C  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.7a]1D  AdenseEpicDungeon1_5.esp1E  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]1F  eyja.esp20  FiveBlindMiceBeta.esp21  Hentai Mania.esp22  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp23  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp24  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp25  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp26  bladesfactionmod.esp27  Malevolent.esp28  ScarletMonastery.esp29  Side's Sailing Ships.esp2A  PlayerCampsite.esp2B  Camp Simplicity.esp2C  TR_Stirk.esp2D  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp2E  Arena_BattlesV1.1.esp2F  The Lost Spires.esp30  HoarfrostCastle.esp31  RC43 Christmas.esp32  Atroyen.esp  [Version 1]33  UniversalOblivionMod.esp34  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.4]35  Clintmichs Beautiful Temple District.esp36  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]37  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]38  Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp39  Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp3A  RealisticHealth.esp3B  MidasSpells.esp3C  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp3D  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp3E  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]3F  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]40  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp41  AinmhiRace.esp42  3 Alternative Stories.esp  [Version 1.1]43  CM Partners.esp44  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp45  CM Partners NPC.esp46  CM Partners More NPCs.esp47  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp48  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp49  cmSashaSonja.esp4A  Kawaii.esp4B  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]4C  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]4D  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]4E  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]4F  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]50  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]51  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]52  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]53  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp54  SRJhealCompanion.esp55  PWISpells.esp56  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp57  Birthsigns Reimagined.esp58  Bashed Patch, 0.esp59  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.2]

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:42 am

Are you using the LITE version of OOO? Is that why you still have version 1.33? Your load order otherwise looks fine, except you may have some plugins that can be deactivated (the green text, purple text and italicized ESPs.)

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 5:36 am

post 100....and still no answer

I patched OOO (I think) put the bashed patch into my data folder, ran boss...and REORGANIZED ALL of those stupid unknowns...

help us out here ..What is the Question?

By the 3rd post on the First page you said...

.EDIT:
And it appears all textural problems have been resolved with my computer taking a one night rest...who knew?

IS the black plague you referance textures you see in the Distance? That could be the FAR-nifs ...has to do with HDR/bloom changing from one to the other to see if it changes.

IF the Question is that NOW you cant load the game?

UNtic every mod. Load Vannila! When the Game is running Then Proceed to install mods.

Thinking Originally this was a Overheated GPU!

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:53 am

help us out here ..What is the Question?

By the 3rd post on the First page you said...

IS the black plague you referance textures you see in the Distance? That could be the FAR-nifs ...has to do with HDR/bloom changing from one to the other to see if it changes.

IF the Question is that NOW you cant load the game?

UNtic every mod. Load Vannila! When the Game is running Then Proceed to install mods.

Thinking Originally this was a Overheated GPU!

thanks for joining in on this. I have updated the topic information so others will not have to read this entire thing to gather what has transformed from Point A (the black plague) to point C (COL)

The black plague did get resolved, but I also wound up having white UI textures that caused the game to lag immensely, and in my attempt to figure out what may cause that, I reinstalled my UI and noticed a few things it had optional requirements for, so I downloaded and installed though and then...bam...COL....
I have tried Vanilla, and a clean install and both seem to refuse to work. I think the current COL may be because a mod is not installed correctly, but I may be wrong.

Are you using the LITE version of OOO? Is that why you still have version 1.33? Your load order otherwise looks fine, except you may have some plugins that can be deactivated (the green text, purple text and italicized ESPs.)

I am using the full version of OOO, and I did use the patch and it ran through just fine, but when the option screen of what I wanted to patch came up there was not an option ot update from version 1.33
The highest available option to patch was from 1.32 FULL...either way, it being patched is not my concern currently, as I have had OOO installed since I started running oblivion again this second round and I encountered no problems that came from that specific mod.

I will look through my LO for mods that you have said. I reactivated them all after running BOSS because you said you wanted my LO, so I did not think about turning those off.
I am guessing you want the corrected LO after deactivating those? after I deactivate them will I need to run boss again?

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:41 am

On the PES site there a download link for 1.34b5. That is what you need to download and install. Deactivating plugins does not change the load order, so there is no reason to rerun BOSS.

Edit: The menu lag could be due to a mod conflict.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:38 pm

I am guessing you want the corrected LO after deactivating those? after I deactivate them will I need to run boss again?

Each and every time you make a change yes you have to Rebuild. True can be a pain...lol
Edit misread BOSS for Bash....ignore me..

EDIT : to your Edit above...I also had major Menu lag when bAllowSlowMotion = , was enabled in the INI for OSR.

Edit:

I reinstalled my UI and noticed a few things it had optional requirements for, so I downloaded and installed though and then...bam...COL....

Get fun here..you install UI(guessing Darn) Edit for Fonts? Gernerate new INI to get game going. Edit this new INI for fonts? OR are you not using a font edit?

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:57 am

On the PES site there a download link for 1.34b5. That is what you need to download and install. Deactivating plugins does not change the load order, so there is no reason to rerun BOSS.

Edit: The menu lag could be due to a mod conflict.

and that is the link I followed and download (twice I might add).

I will give Oblivion a run, and we'll see what result I get...

as for Camaro:
Yeah don't worry. Just read what Dr. Tomlong says and see if you have any other better ideas.

EDIT:
and upon running Oblivion, the expected result happened.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:52 pm

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15256

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:56 pm

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15256

Whoops, got all caught up in our lack of free expression here on the forum I forgot to mention that I updated my my OOO (again...I think...again....)
so, Dr. Tomlong, what is next in the business? the cure is close, right? we have funded the finding of this cure a lot, and so we must be getting close to the answer.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:44 am

Post your load order. I have no clue where you are now, haha.

Edit: Make sure your OOO plugins say 1.34; otherwise, they are not up to date.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:49 pm

Post your load order. I have no clue where you are now, haha.

Edit: Make sure your OOO plugins say 1.34; otherwise, they are not up to date.

lol, I am not paying you to be a clutzy doctor! come on now (jk)

the newest look in my LO right here:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  TR_OoT_Main.esm02  AWS-Core.esm03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Diverse Wisps - Base.esm05  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm06  BetterMusicSystem.esm07  CM Partners.esm08  HorseCombatMaster.esm09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0A  Books of Console v1.esp0B  TryBeforeYouBuy.esp0C  Update My Statue.esp  [Version 1.30]0D  Living Economy.esp0E  Living Economy - Items.esp0F  BlackLuster.esp10  Western Armor.esp11  Growlfs Animated Hair.esp12  R18PN - Amy Armor Set.esp13  AHIRUs_Glasses_v1.esp14  Hentai_AthenaArmour.esp15  Lamayo's Dragon Bow.esp16  HaydoxRapier.esp17  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]18  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.7a]19  AdenseEpicDungeon1_5.esp1A  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]1B  eyja.esp1C  FiveBlindMiceBeta.esp1D  Hentai Mania.esp1E  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp1F  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp20  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp21  bladesfactionmod.esp22  Malevolent.esp23  ScarletMonastery.esp24  Side's Sailing Ships.esp25  PlayerCampsite.esp26  Camp Simplicity.esp27  TR_Stirk.esp28  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp29  Arena_BattlesV1.1.esp2A  The Lost Spires.esp2B  HoarfrostCastle.esp2C  RC43 Christmas.esp2D  Atroyen.esp  [Version 1]2E  UniversalOblivionMod.esp2F  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.4]30  Clintmichs Beautiful Temple District.esp31  RealisticHealth.esp32  MidasSpells.esp33  Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp34  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp35  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]36  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]37  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp38  AinmhiRace.esp39  3 Alternative Stories.esp  [Version 1.1]3A  CM Partners.esp3B  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp3C  CM Partners NPC.esp3D  CM Partners More NPCs.esp3E  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp3F  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp40  cmSashaSonja.esp41  Kawaii.esp42  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]43  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]44  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]45  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]46  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]47  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp48  SRJhealCompanion.esp49  PWISpells.esp4A  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp4B  Birthsigns Reimagined.esp4C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp4D  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.2]

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:25 am

Your load order is looking okay now. Make sure you have the latest version of OBSE installed, and verify that nothing you have installed is know to have conflicts with OOO. Rebuild your bashed patch using the following template: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/bashedpatch. Where is your AWS plugin, the main ESP? If you cannot get that load order to load, I am going to have to help you cut it down to just the mods I am familiar with, and you will have to build it back slowly from there.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:06 pm

well...you will probably have to pull mods....but...let's just pull the plug on this one. thank god we invested in that reviving machine.
Let's just do ANOTHER (gah damn it...) clean install, but rather than installing it, patching, putting in those necessry programs, THEN dumping a bunch of mods on it.
This time I will do all those steps, but install the mods in short bursts AFTER playing vanilla to insure it is not because of a bad installation.

this way we will be able to disect the problem at it's heart.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 2:45 pm

That sounds good to me. I am adding more install order guides to the site as we speak too.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:36 am

okay.
I will post again here when it is done...last time it took about 16 hours to do in full (ofcourse I had distractions to help make that time be so long) so I would say check back tomorrow.\

let me take a minute here though; I know I already said thank you, but, I want to say again: Thank you for devoting so much time to this problem...god, if you were there last year when I experianced a similar problem I would imagine I would have been playing Oblivion the entire time from when I first got it aqll the way to the present day.

thank you

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:53 am

A based list to start with based on your LO

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm02  AWS-Core.esm03  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm07  CM Partners.esm[src="http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1087608-the-black-plague-of-tamriel/http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization"]ADD UOP with Supplemental[/url]09  DLCShiveringIsles.espADD AWS main ESP0D  Living Economy.esp0E  Living Economy - Items.esp17  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]1E  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp1F  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp20  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp22  Malevolent.esp28  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp2A  The Lost Spires.esp2B  HoarfrostCastle.esp2F  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.4]32  MidasSpells.esp35  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]36  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]37  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp38  AinmhiRace.esp3A  CM Partners.esp3B  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp3C  CM Partners NPC.esp3D  CM Partners More NPCs.esp3E  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp3F  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp40  cmSashaSonja.esp42  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]43  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]44  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]45  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]46  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]47  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp4A  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp4C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp4D  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.2]

Try to get that working.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:49 am

hmmmm....certainly odd.... I didn't make it too far before I was crashing again, but it is a little bit different than previously. Now the game crashes when trying to load the main menu.
I didn't get many mods installed before this happened so that might be a relief for you. Plus I can tell you I have tested the game after ever 3 or so installed, and it wasn't until my most recent test that it crashed. Take a look at my LO, tell me whatchya see.

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  AWS-Core.esm02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]03  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm04  CM Partners.esm05  DLCShiveringIsles.esp06  AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp07  Living Economy.esp08  Living Economy - Items.esp09  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]0A  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]0B  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]0C  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp0D  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp0E  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp0F  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp10  Malevolent.esp11  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp12  The Lost Spires.esp13  HoarfrostCastle.esp14  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.4]15  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]16  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]17  MidasSpells.esp18  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]19  CuteElf11.esp  [Version 1.3.5]1A  AinmhiRace.esp1B  CM Partners.esp1C  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp1D  CM Partners NPC.esp1E  CM Partners More NPCs.esp1F  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp20  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp21  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp22  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:59 pm

Sorry if this is redundant, but do you have a UI mod installed? Do you see any plugins with missing masters (red check boxes) in Wyre Bash? That is the primary cause of this crash.

Edit: Rebuild your bashed patch. The other thing that can cause a crash like that is missing resources...I think. Make sure you have all of the resources for those mods installed.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:36 pm

I have not yet installed my UI mod (btw, if you cared to know if it might help its the Dark DarNified) however I did install ObXP which does do a minor change to the UI. And there are no red plugins. All except 3 have black text with a green check box. The other three have the green check box but with green text.

As for building my bash patch.....what? I was looking http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/finishinstall/bashedpatch but it's not making sense.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:14 pm

What does not make sense? Check the plugins you see in the various categories unless they are mentioned as exceptions (that should not be checked.) Green text means the mods are mergeable and can be deactivated. Do not mix up text colors and check box colors, they signify different things. Make sure that you installed the vanilla version of OblivionXP, and regenerate your Oblivion.ini as well.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:45 pm

:brokencomputer:
*Oblivion meet Gun*
It is really acting up on me now...it seems like every time we try to fix things things get worse. Now, it won't even show the bethesda logo before it crashes! Why is modding Oblivion such a headache!?!

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:06 pm

Missing masters (red check boxes), (missing DarN or DarkUidDarn fonts in the IN) bad Oblivion.ini setting... Maybe you should actually start over and seriously build your load order more slowly and carefully. Test setups a few hours at a time.

Edit: ...before building again.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:29 am

I think I memorized every detail in the Oblivion screen shots during installation I have installed it so many times *headdesk*

I should just hire someone to "build my load order" for me....since apparently I am doing it all wrong...

EDIT
Something occured to me just a little while ago which I forgot to mention when I posted last. When I first came back to the forums there was a topic on removing Oblivon from the registry. While I did find a Bethesda item in my registry, I am not sure if I should remove it or not and if that would help at all or anything. Think it might effect anything if I were to remove it?

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:47 pm

I think I memorized every detail in the Oblivion screen shots during installation I have installed it so many times *headdesk*

I should just hire someone to "build my load order" for me....since apparently I am doing it all wrong...

EDIT
Something occured to me just a little while ago which I forgot to mention when I posted last. When I first came back to the forums there was a topic on removing Oblivon from the registry. While I did find a Bethesda item in my registry, I am not sure if I should remove it or not and if that would help at all or anything. Think it might effect anything if I were to remove it?

If you have uninstalled it, then removing it from the registry is fine. It is also perfectly fine to install Oblivion again on top of your old setup, and unistall it immediately after. That is the method I suggest.

» Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:36 pm

If you have uninstalled it, then removing it from the registry is fine. It is also perfectly fine to install Oblivion again on top of your old setup, and unistall it immediately after. That is the method I suggest.

But don't forget to uninstall the CS first, then reinstall Oblvion and CS again.
It also a good idea do to a clean reboot of your computer.