The Capital Wasteland is eventaully doomed

Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:41 pm

This is going to be a long post, so bear with me.

I am going to state it here that if you don't have the Broken Steel DLC you wont really what im talking about.

Well no more messing around, heres the point

The Capial Wasteland is eventaully doomed. Why? Becuase eventually the creatures would just sack and kill everyone.

Yes, that alone isnt a good enough explanation, is it. So im going on. Think about this, The strongest person in the whole land, The Lone Wanderer, has a hard time killing the creatures you ALWAYS face at level 30, the new cap. This is coming from a player who had Fawkes, Dogmeat, and the armor you get from the Pitt DLC when you get all the iron ingots. I die in about...5 or 4 hits from the Albino Radscorpion. Now that isnt too terrible alone, right?

Wrong. I had most of the best things i could get. That Alien Pistol from the ship after Zeta, the Man ripper or whatever the best saw thing from the Pitt was, The backwater rifle (I dont use big weapons, by the way, so your thoughts may differ) Things like that. The im using those, and its barely taking damage from any of that. And this is assuming that the Albinos aren't a rare genetic defect in that time, for at level 30 they are, pretty much, the only scoripion type you meet. So, speaking on a timeline where the Lone Wanderer was killed by one of the creatures, they, at their strength, could pretty easily kill every other thing in the wasteland. Deathclaws? easily. Super Mutant Behemoth? Possibly, havent tried it myself. Citizens in megaton? One or two hits. Not even mentioning the Super Mutant overlords, who appear in numbers of up to three and are maybe just as dangerous, considering they appear in groups with atleast one more overlord and a few lower ranks.

Anyway, looking back to the Megaton fact, you may say. "But a Radscorpion couldnt get through the door." (Thats assuming they close the giant metal gates)

Yes, thats true, but what about Super Mutants? Sense. from what i can tell, the people can't really farm on the earth, their only is food from the past, and meat of the other creatures, such as the molerat, ants, whatever the bears are called, and mirelurks. But if the Super Mutants do a siege, or something alone the lines of that, waiting at the gate of the city for them to be starved out. Eventually they would have to go out to find food, right?

And what would be out there?

Super Mutants.

Pow. Pow.

Their dead. Plus the other Mutants would be there too, and would raid the place the momment the door opened.

And everyone is dead. Thats not even mentioning how most Mirelurks at that time have become Kings, and can easily kill the citizens.

Oh, and the merchant's that come through would, which i figured were the main way people got food, would be easily killed too.

Now thats only Megaton, right? Well think of all the other places.

Like River City.

Sure, they can remove the bridge leading to them.

But then what?

That just leads to another seige situation, where eventually they have to go out to get food or die. Only to get killed by the mutants.

Sure, they could get off any other way, but how would they get back in?

You could argue that they would drop a ladder or something, but while Super Mutants are stupid, they aren't THAT stupid. They would start circling the damn boat, and one time they WOULD see the ladder, and wait for the people to lower it, kill them, and just climb up.

Really no where would be safe. All the random people living around the place could just as easily get killed by anything in general at the time period, where EVERYTHING is incredably deadly,

The weaker robots were mostly destroyed, being shown as how you only see the stronger versions, the Sentry bots around,

the normal Mirelurks died. So the species rapidly evolved to become more Mirelurk Kings, with their scream of fus ro dah.

The Super Mutants, a great example. They also got stronger. Started not to bad a threat, then just got worse and worse.

Raiders were bad. They would still be bad. But they would still BE there. Their sheer numbers would still be a threat. If, say, 100 raiders attacked a level 30 at once, id say they have a good chance at winning. I wouldnt really know, as I havent tested that though.

Look at all the evidence. Eventually, all the people in the wastes would die. Leaving it virtually doomed.

There are counter arguments to this, im sure, if you have them, go ahead and share them, im not gonna argue. If you want to add to this, so ahead also.

By the way, before anyone disputes this, this was my original thought, i had been thinking over this on and off for awhile, whenever i basically thought of Fallout i thought about this eventually. Theres a ton of scenarios i left out i know, but im not going to sit over the computer, looking over information, doing all the things to figure out things realisicly. Im much to lazy. But this is true enough.

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Olga Xx
 
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:03 am

Welcome to post apocalyptic wasteland , struggle to survive is sort off the theme of game
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Lexy Corpsey
 
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:44 pm

Saying the CW is doomed due to a contrivance of the leveled actor system tied to the Player level and not really well-thought-out by its designers is a bit of a stretch.

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:32 pm

I'm say it more doom because of the poorly thought out design and circumstances the writers placed on it. They have no food, not civilization, puny barely defended "towns" and so forth. While places back West are forming whole multistate sized nations.

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Lauren Denman
 
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:53 pm

They've had time and people to reform, and build than the CW has. So no [censored] [censored] rapists, or [censored]head's loiters, or [censored]ers of the [censored]s, or extremely-misleading-dont-come-near-or-we-will-hug-youers.

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Mike Plumley
 
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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:56 am

It's been 200 years. There is minimal ranching, no farming, no industry, no production, and few scientific advances in the Capital Wasteland. Even the [censored] ghouls in Underworld who were around when the bombs dropped have done nothing but dike around and get stoned in their little hovel for that entire time.

Compare this to the west in FO1, which took place over a century before FO3. There was abundant agriculture. There were involved trading caravans. There was a sprawling city that served the role as a trading post. There were people manufacturing weapons, and one place even had working hydroponic farms (which even a so-called genius scientist like Dr. Li is still working on at the beginning of FO3). There is no excuse why the people of the Capital Wasteland have not learned to adapt or do anything beyond scavenge pre-war junk.

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Post » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:21 pm

Highly Educated and Well Thought out Reponse: China(and differnet devs w/ different ideas :/ )

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