So if the Champion of Cyrodill is the new Shegorath...Where' : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Mon May 07, 2012 5:21 pm

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So after some people find shegorath at skyrim,and then after completing it's quest they realized that the Shegorath at obvilion is actually the Champion of Cyrodill that becamed the new Shegorath after completing Shivering Isles

But there are two things that doesn't make sense:
1-Where the hell is Jyggalag?And his influences at mortal realm?As being a Deadric Prince he is supposed to show up at skyrim like any other prince.
2-

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it's saying that in Cicero journal's that the Champion of cyrodill is killed by him.That doesn't make even more sense.

3-According to obvilion's eding,or what Martin said "When the next Elder Scroll is written, you shall be its scribe. The shape of the future, the fate of the Empire - these things, now, belong to you." He basically becamed the nex Emperor's,until he died of whatever causes
So i want to know,if i'm wrong.That the things i said is an absurdie.Or that i'm right.

» Mon May 07, 2012 2:01 pm

What Martin said never happened, it was just meant to be dramatic.

The Champion DID become Sheogorath, and you can never kill a daedric prince, so maybe Cicero killed his physical form in Nirn. I dunno. Remember, the champion is mad :tongue:

because he's the prince of madness.

Now move this to the Spoiler section!

EDIT: Actually, the last listerner died in the riots in Bravil.

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:35 pm

What Martin said never happened, it was just meant to be dramatic.

The Champion DID become Sheogorath, and you can never kill a daedric prince, so maybe Cicero killed his physical form in Nirn. I dunno. Remember, the champion is mad :tongue:

because he's the prince of madness.

Now move this to the Spoiler section!

Also you just gaved me arguments to my other topic

But still Jyggalag doesn't shows up.

» Mon May 07, 2012 10:14 pm

Sheogorath = Jyggalag. It is logical that he can't be in two forms at the same time.

» Mon May 07, 2012 7:23 pm

Sheogorath = Jyggalag. It is logical that he can't be in two forms at the same time.

Actually,The champion of Cyrodill breaked the curse.So Jyggalag just returned...forever.Now the curse belongs to the champion.Now the champion(if he is really the new shegorath) wants to break the curse,he needs another super hero to hold the curse.

» Mon May 07, 2012 12:30 pm

I figure that anything Sheogorath is involved with is by its very nature not going to make much sense.

» Mon May 07, 2012 1:25 pm

'27th of Rain's Hand, 4E 187
Completed the Arena contract. I ultimately decided to pose as a starstruck fan, and immediately got into the Grand Champion's good graces. While escorting the arrogant fool through the Great Forest, I slashed his throat and left the corpse for the bears.'
A part of Cicero's Journal

» Mon May 07, 2012 4:35 pm

'27th of Rain's Hand, 4E 187

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Completed the Arena contract. I ultimately decided to pose as a starstruck fan, and immediately got into the Grand Champion's good graces. While escorting the arrogant fool through the Great Forest, I slashed his throat and left the corpse for the bears.'
A part of Cicero's Journal

This....now im really confused.Who did he killed:An older champion?or the hero himself?

» Mon May 07, 2012 9:10 pm

Actually,The champion of Cyrodill breaked the curse.So Jyggalag just returned...forever.Now the curse belongs to the champion.Now the champion(if he is really the new shegorath) wants to break the curse,he needs another super hero to hold the curse.

I guess that makes sense... But this Sheogorath-Jyggalag-Champion of Cyrodiil - triangle is such a big mind[censored] that I'm not entirely sure what happened after Shivering Isles.

» Mon May 07, 2012 2:26 pm

However, it does mention that the listner was NOT the player. And so it can safe to assume that the player gave up the title of 'Grand Champion' when he made his permenant residence in the land of Sheogorath (SHivering Isles)