I hope I got that right A Dragon Break is when Akatosh kinda stops working and timelines warp together a la Daggerfall, right? Regardless if I got the terminology wrong, this is probably the only way of clearing up the Civil War, right?

If that were to be the case, what would happen? Would it be made so that the Civil War never happened? Or that a stalemate with demands from both sides being met? Or something all together different and...TES-y?

I think it's more likely there will be a book that reads...

The Stormcloak Rebellion

After Ulfric killed the High King, he began a wide-spread popular rebellion to gain an independent Skyrim. General Tullius of Cyrodiil was sent by Emperor Titus Mede II to put down this rebellion, primarily using local Imperial troops. A stalemate ensued until the Last Dragonborn took part in the Rebellion, forcing a King's moot.

At the King's moot, Jarl Elisif of Solitude was elected High Queen as a compromise candidate. She was widely viewed as a puppet but served successfully until negotiations for returning to the Empire were completed. To this day, Jarl Ulfric is viewed as a local hero by the Skyrim populace despite his treason and the bloodshed which resulted from it.

I doubt the story of the civil war will be resolved with a dragon break. I imagine that Skyrim will be split down the center, and independent east Skyrim and an Empire-obersved western Skyrim. Perhaps in the next game one of the information tidbits which people say will be, "I hear there are still skirmishes within Skyrim"

Well that makes no sense as the Dragonborn murders almost the entirety of the opposing side.

Seriously, though, I think Jarl Elisif will be the High Queen.

Everyone is dead on both sides of the War.

Theres just as much support for each side on the topic of who will win.

Well the only thing which remains "canonical" is the game at home. "Your" game is what matters because that's what happened.

I hope this doesn't happen. The Warp of the West was cool - it made some really interesting things happening.

But a Warp in the North? That would take the awesomeness out of Dragon Breaks and make them feel used. I don't want Dragon Breaks to become the cosmic retcons of the ES universe.

I doubt there would be a dragon break. It would have too many secondary impacts on everything else at such a critical time. I also find splitting Skyrim into two independent states highly unlikely. Would either side accept such a compromise? What would be the social and economical impacts of such a divide?

I think anything could happen. Truly. Emrpires rise and fall, as have all the races of Tamriel. The situation now is not so new. At the beginning of recorded time the elven races were superior to the human races. The Ayelids, snow elves and dwemer all controlled vast swathes of territory. By the end of the first 1000 years this picture changes entirely. The elven kingdoms collapse and human ones replace them. So elves were the subservient race. The balance began to push back again following the end of the 1st era with the collapse of the human empire. Morrowind remained an increasingly powerful elven state.

The balance remained equal until the beginning of the third era. Tiber septim, a human, conquers the elven states a brings about an human - controlled empire.

This situation continues until the Oblivion crisis, where an interesting event happened - the Argonian race rocketed up the tracks as a powerful independent nation. The bestial power continued to grow whilst elven and human power both went into steep decline.

Eleven powers, bar morrowind, recovered first. Quickly unifying they kept ahead of the human races until the great war, where things began to even out again. Political infighting (Valenwood, Skyrim) between both races, coupled with non - related emergencies, is keeping the balance of power fairly equal, with humans, if united, perhaps eclipsing elven power again.

However, what im saying is, what goes around comes around. The elven races may gain superiority, but they will inevitably lose this to human or, for the first time, bestial superiority. Only for this to collapse and be replaced by elven superiority again. And so the scales go round and round...

I think the peace treaty will be canon and become a permanent peace.

I know people don't like it, but I like the idea of two independent Skyrim states. Nordic-Skyrim and Imperial-Skyrim.

Yeah, but doesn't that invalidate the game?

Probably this, or then the next game will be set so far away, by place and /or time, that the result doesn't matter and is left open. I don't see dragon breaking happening due to such mundane matter

Ha well yeah they could definitely do that too. I definitely don't think they will pick one winner either way though

The Last Dragonborn - Real Hero or Myth?

[Excerpt from Chapter Four, Paragraph 6 and the Beginning to Paragraph 7]

During the savage Skyrim Civil War, which took place during the year 4E 201, the Last Dragonborn supposedly took interest in the conflict. Before his defeat of the World-Eater, he or she walked in on the stalemate between both sides of the war. The glorious imperial legion, led by General Tallius, and the the Stormcloaks, led by Ulfric Stormcloak, had fought to a bitter standstill and no one knew how to gain the upper hand on the other. The Last Dragonborn, using his or her influential status, was able to goad both leaders, the other Jarls of the holds, and the Thalmor into convening at High Hrothgar in a Moot. While there, the Dragonborn, along with the last few surviving members of the Blades that had sworn fealty to him, was able to convince the others to set aside their differences to help him or her defeat Alduin. Because of this, the Dragonborn was able to capture a Dragon at Whiterun and supposedly entered Sovengarde, where he defeated Alduin. After this encounter they disappeared, although some say they went on to become members of an estranged vampire hunting association and traveled to a obsolete island near Morrowind.

After returning from their travels several months later, the Dragonborn discovered the Legion and the Stormcloaks fighting once more in a great battle for Windhelm. Using the power of the Voice, they quickly ended the conflict and proposed another Moot. At this one, the Dragonborn stated that they were leaving Skyrim once and for all after this meeting, and before they do they wanted to end this petty conflict. The Dragonborn proposed that Jarl Balgruuf become the new High King, due to his neutrality to both sides of the war. This decision was settled and Balgruuf became the new High King of Skyrim. After this, the Dragonborn traveled to the mountain known as the Throat of the World and disappeared.

I wrote this as an Imperial response to @Charlemagne19's book.

It helps both sides. Both get what they wanted, independence and unity. Orsinium worked similarly (well... until it was roflstomped). Orsinium was an indipendent Kingdom between High Rock and Hammerfell, not fully recognized as an individual province but all together independent.

Hail Talos Stormcrown Tullius Stormcloak, Dragonborn Emperor!

There's one thing that happens for certain regardless of which side you pick.

Skyrim is unified. Who unified it won't matter. What that unified nation does will.

I know, but I mean that it invalidates those who participated in the conflict's efforts in-game.

The Thuum of Tulius Stormcloak invalidates your arguments! He breathes in royalty, and breathes out history. A mighty mythic dragon is slain, and bleeds all over your pathetic timelines!

An independent kingdom, yes, not a sovereign state in its own right. As in, High Rock is recognised as a state, and within it are numerous Kingdoms. Other states, at different times, have operated on a similar basis. Such as the Colovian states of Cyrodill. Orinism was just one of these kingdoms. And, yes, it was recognised as such.

Orinism worked fine, it was just picked on my all the other states because they didn't like Orcs having there own kingdoms and being powerful. There's a lot of stories about the "terrible green orcs" which I think is a lot of propaganda against the "savages". Orinism isn't going to help the empire, since they hardly are friends of them. The orcs are very neutral IN the elves vs humans fight. Like the Argonians and, in some aspects, Bretons. In fact, aren't orcs actually elves? Its just my feeling that they will stay out of another great war. Like they did with the first one. Because, either way, they are gaining little or nothing. Black Marsh did not rise as an independent political entity by fighting for what it believed in - it waited for a chance, struck hard and fast and ceded from the empire. The war with Morrowind would of never of happened had the nation not been weakened by the red year.

In terms of power, I would say High rock ranks in as pretty weak. Because it is not, as such, a united entity. It isn't like Skyrim or Cyrodill. High rock has a very complex political layout, which has hindered its prosperity and possibilities for millennia. When another war happens, Its my guess some kingdoms will throw there lot in with the empire, some wont.

The way I see it, Black Marsh is by far the strongest power on the political board now. Im amazed the dominion/empire are not doing more to get them on side - it would be a deciding factor of the conflict. The dominion, even if they took over Cyrodill, wouldn't invade black marsh. It would be a disaster. Evidence from numerous invasions have shown that occupation of black marsh doesn't work. This is its most powerful defence.

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In terms of the question, you wont get any solid proof either way on which way high rock is going, because there is none. Only time will tell. As I have said, I estimate the country will be split in terms of who sides with who, and who remains neutral.

Black Marsh isn't a political power. They're totally isolationist and have voluntarily shed their population and outside influence. They probably can never be conquered as long as they stay in their swamps, but when they leave then they lose that advantage.

As for the OP question, something will make the civil war irrelevant. Events will overtake it, though, probably not an Akabreak.

Elisif or Balgruuf becoming monarch, gods- let's hope not. Skyrim needs to be strong on its own two feet.

Balgruuf would be capable, in my opinion, but its his heirs I have serious concerns about.

Balgruuf is waffling and reactive, and he took blood money. I can't respect him.

Not a fan of future heirs that are manipulated by Mephala, I take? Hehe.

So did Ulfric, deal with it.

Even removing Mephala from the equation, they're a bunch of socially inept brats as it stands. Unless they mellow out when they're older, they have the potential to be among the ranks of Siddgeir as far as competence goes.

Point. Someone else could probably see the prior two points in a positive light, but I get where the notion comes from.