The Cloak... And WHY it needs fixing...

Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:33 am

Read this, I'm not complaining... I don't care if you flame me, or whatever...

By now I assume you are reading this for the same reason I am writing it; I hate the Cloak, It's too effective, perhaps OVER effective... It just allows those annoying kids to sit in corners, camp AND be invisibile... not to mention, It's hard to see the little gits... Ever tried using your Nano Vision online? Haha... Don't even try, it's useless... Another useless feature.

Please Crytek, if you aren't letting people see the damn Cloaks, at least add something that gives their position away so that we can be prepared... I'm fed up with people simply appearing in front of me, shooting me and killing me with ONE hit from the Hammer Pistol.

You ALL know what I am talking about...

Pfft... Not happy with the online... Only a Rank 17 and I'm struggling like mad... Please, please please for the sake of pie, help us all...
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Rob Davidson
 
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:51 pm

your retarded.
if you dont like cloak then dont play a game where it is a main feature....go back to playing blops.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:07 am

Don't tell me what to, and what not to do. Black Ops is an awful game... It feels like I am playing it ALL over again... Got to 15th prestige and got bored...

Judging by your childish and yet offensive flame-based comments, you're obviously one of the non-skilled players who sits around in corners ALL the time with the cloak on... Please, refrain from posting any further useless remarks in my topic.

I want to hear peoples oppinions about cloak, not about my skill as to whether or not I am able to play the game competitively or not. Unless you have something useful to put forward to the topic, don't type. Simple.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:13 am

Ignore the twit. Every fanboy who defends this in the dumbest mannor say "go back to blops" (I haven't even played blops so...)

I'm going to say this is the nicest way possible but HALF is down to skill. I played Transformers War for Cybertron and that game trained me to see cloacked players especially as I snipe and have to survey the maps. So I can see cloaked playes very easily. People do abuse it though. On crash site there was aguy who hid under the stairs in Skyline (near the glasshouses) and my brother thought he was gone but i told him he was still there.

Campers areeasy to take down because most stupidly think you cna't see them so you that to you advantage. Plus, when in stealth youtake like double damage :)
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:44 am

Don't tell me what to, and what not to do. Black Ops is an awful game... It feels like I am playing it ALL over again... Got to 15th prestige and got bored...

Judging by your childish and yet offensive flame-based comments, you're obviously one of the non-skilled players who sits around in corners ALL the time with the cloak on... Please, refrain from posting any further useless remarks in my topic.

I want to hear peoples oppinions about cloak, not about my skill as to whether or not I am able to play the game competitively or not. Unless you have something useful to put forward to the topic, don't type. Simple.


Hold on a minute, you did say you didn't care if people flame you...or whatever.

It seems you do care.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:13 am

Cloak to me at least is to easy to see, enhanced visor perk makes it even easier.
I'm assuming you struggle at seeing cloaked opponents so I would suggest doing one of the following:

1. Use proximity alarm to find the cloaked/uncloaked foes in your immediate area. (I use this at Tier 3, I always know when someone is near me)

2. When in doubt armor out, armored foes with armor enhance are tougher (to me at least) to kill when immediately coming out of cloak and spraying.

3. Cloak tracker, this is only useful though if an enemy cloaks near you, it does NOT detect people who cloaked outside the proximity of the ability.

I hope one of these works for you, if you want some help in game just add me
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Post » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:54 pm

Don't tell me what to, and what not to do. Black Ops is an awful game... It feels like I am playing it ALL over again... Got to 15th prestige and got bored...

Judging by your childish and yet offensive flame-based comments, you're obviously one of the non-skilled players who sits around in corners ALL the time with the cloak on... Please, refrain from posting any further useless remarks in my topic.

I want to hear peoples oppinions about cloak, not about my skill as to whether or not I am able to play the game competitively or not. Unless you have something useful to put forward to the topic, don't type. Simple.


Hold on a minute, you did say you didn't care if people flame you...or whatever.

It seems you do care.

Ok? So what? Am I supposed to start a flame war with you... I'm not going to cause an argument with you. I just want people to quit the damn flaming on these internet boards... We're all here for the same damn reasons and we all want the same damn results... Not to argue like children and play about the place in the admins eyes of "Yes Sir! No Sir! Three bags full Sir!" etc...

Can we just forget the flame crap and get on with the topic. End of.

Cloak to me at least is to easy to see, enhanced visor perk makes it even easier.
I'm assuming you struggle at seeing cloaked opponents so I would suggest doing one of the following:

1. Use proximity alarm to find the cloaked/uncloaked foes in your immediate area. (I use this at Tier 3, I always know when someone is near me)

2. When in doubt armor out, armored foes with armor enhance are tougher (to me at least) to kill when immediately coming out of cloak and spraying.

3. Cloak tracker, this is only useful though if an enemy cloaks near you, it does NOT detect people who cloaked outside the proximity of the ability.

I hope one of these works for you, if you want some help in game just add me
GT: Krone404

Yes, as a player whom of which suffers with color deficiency I don't see shades or colours too easily; I have to buy specially designed TV's which have a specific type of lens over the screen in order for me to see things clearer than what I can... I am almost effectively blind anyway... That's why I get a little pissed off when people use something more commonly over Oxygen.

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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:41 pm

Don't tell me what to, and what not to do. Black Ops is an awful game... It feels like I am playing it ALL over again... Got to 15th prestige and got bored...

Judging by your childish and yet offensive flame-based comments, you're obviously one of the non-skilled players who sits around in corners ALL the time with the cloak on... Please, refrain from posting any further useless remarks in my topic.

I want to hear peoples oppinions about cloak, not about my skill as to whether or not I am able to play the game competitively or not. Unless you have something useful to put forward to the topic, don't type. Simple.


Hold on a minute, you did say you didn't care if people flame you...or whatever.

It seems you do care.

Ok? So what? Am I supposed to start a flame war with you... I'm not going to cause an argument with you. I just want people to quit the damn flaming on these internet boards... We're all here for the same damn reasons and we all want the same damn results... Not to argue like children and play about the place in the admins eyes of "Yes Sir! No Sir! Three bags full Sir!" etc...

Can we just forget the flame crap and get on with the topic. End of.

You need to calm down.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:28 pm


You need to calm down.

Guess what? I'm perfectly calm. Stop wasting my time.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:48 am


You need to calm down.

That is how arguments start, stop flaming, if you don't have anything to say about the game keep it to yourself.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:15 am


You need to calm down.

That is how arguments start, stop flaming, if you don't have anything to say about the game keep it to yourself.

I'm not flaming, I was telling him he needs to calm down because he does.

And besides, he doesn't care if people flame him, check the op.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:23 pm


You need to calm down.

That is how arguments start, stop flaming, if you don't have anything to say about the game keep it to yourself.

I'm not flaming, I was telling him he needs to calm down because he does.

And besides, he doesn't care if people flame him, check the op.

Nice... A Typical everyday Troll; Congratulations. Go back to your pool of... Well, whatever...
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:06 am

I dont know nano vision seems to work pretty good for me. I kind of ignored it until recently and its very useful for seeing the cloaked guys (they show up purple!)
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:17 am

I will weigh in. I think the cloak system is balanced. It is VERY different indeed from other games, as you now need to manage a new strategy, suit management. At the end of the day, you have the same abilities so if you're constantly getting popped in transit, maybe try using your cloak when running across an open area. Remember, when people decloak, they need to wait a second before they fire or their energy goes down to 0. If this happens and you armor up you have an edge.

I also got frustrated when I started playing the game, but with patience you start picking up on the tricks youll get better. You can still see the cloak if you are looking for it, so its not totally invisible, and there also are modules to help you see them. You also have nanovision. I know you joke about it, but it does work.

However, you ask Crytek for a way to better see the cloaked enemies. Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the entire game mechanic?
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:10 am

Nano-vision is key. It is not useless. I use it practically nonstop because I have trouble picking out cloaked enemies without it. Their heat signatures don't show up brightly like uncloaked players, but they do show up as a dim blue hue, letting me pick them out easily against any background. Practice with it some more, perhaps with a friend in a private match.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:19 am

As I previously mentioned, I don't see colour like everyone else who plays this game; making it more difficult for me to see. I mean, my PC has compatibility for "Disabilities" such as mine. fair enough, I might not be disabled in a manner to which is visible to the naked eye "No pun intended" but, as I have a visual disability I don't see colour very well. It's all shades to me.

I wouldn't mind a patch or something being released where I can turn on "Compatibility mode" which works for us colour deficient people, which instead of brightly coloured things, everything is shaded instead. So that it looks the same to me as it would you.

I'm not saying give me an advantage because I'm near enough blind, I'm saying make it fair so that I can see the damn game too. Every other market applies to those with visual issues, such as PC, TV, etc. However, games consoles still don't have much support for deficient's like me.

I'm not here to make an argument, I made the post to point out that yes, it is hard to see the cloaked players. To normal people, they're hard to see, but to me, it's IMPOSSIBLE to see them. I mean, I physically cannot see them. The option of not playing the game, is available. however, it is unfair to say that as Equal rights falls into play.

Any suggestions would be nice.

Thanks.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:57 am

You know there is a thing called Nanovision and Cloak Tracker and Tracker? You could also try spotting the distortion or get Visor Enchance? It sorta requires skill?

Fella above, did you try cloak tracker as it makes the cloaked person shine/sparkle a bit and when it gets upgraded it gets much better ;)
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:39 am

You know there is a thing called Nanovision and Cloak Tracker and Tracker? You could also try spotting the distortion or get Visor Enchance? It sorta requires skill?

Fella above, did you try cloak tracker as it makes the cloaked person shine/sparkle a bit and when it gets upgraded it gets much better ;)

Dude the Cloak Tracker svcks =/ I was excited when first read about it because at Level 3 it says "Full visibility of cloaked enemies" which is a lie... all it does is make that sparkle last a little longer, like it follows them around for a few more seconds, which is useless when the enemies been cloaked, I've seen on PC that Nanovision DOES help out A LOT to the point where players hardly even use Cloak Tracker because Nanovision is like a click away, I wish they added a different button layout that would allow Nanovision to be used on a different button (as it's a little hard to turn on, move, turn off, move, etc) I would have thought that Cloak Tracker level 3 would allow you to see cloaked enemies as you see your cloaked team, but no, it's still just wavy air unless the enemy cloaks in your general field of vision. I've decided for now I'm gonna run the Cloak Enhance or whatever, as it 1) hastes the transition between cloak and armor and 2) drains less energy in cloak, coupled with mobility enhance, I should be losing energy very slow, which means I can use Nanovision for over 5 seconds at a time before I have to sit in a corner and recharge....
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:38 am

@AzureChris Do you actually have Cloak Tracker Teir 3? Probably not. Because once you do there is no way you can say it svcks. Unless you are playing in standard def, which then well... you need a new TV.

To the OP,

I don't know really what to tell you... You admit that you have difficulty seeing colours which is unfortunate no doubt. However, I don't really think you can ask the game developers to decrease the effectiveness of stealth because you are colour blind. I commend you for playing online a game that can be incredibly frustrating as the learning curve is pretty steep, but once you actually understand how awesome it is you naturally start seeing invisible people. (the shadows they cast, distorted body outlines etc.) In my opinion they did a fine job with the stealth aspect and there is no need to change it.

To provide my two cents of potential remedies for you, as mentioned above; there are plenty of modules you can upgrade to increase cloak detection, as well as clock enchantment. Level 3 Tiers are paramount. I used to think there were plenty of modules I would never even try to use, until I actually level'd them up. Now instead of having 1-2 modules as go to's I cycle between 4-5 because of the added bonuses. Trust me, once you upgrade the modules to level 3 they help dramatically.

Also, you have to consider your actual suit powers. Once you reach the maximum at level 12 you are much better at cloaking than the guys at the lower levels. If I am running around with Stealth Enhance 3 and level 12 Stealth, no doubt will I be tougher to see.

The biggest piece of advice I can give though lies upon your gaming screen. I say this all the time. You absolutely NEED a smaller screen high resolution gaming monitor for competitive online FPS. Period. A 22-24" 1080p or even 1680x1050 is absolutely essential.

If you are playing on a dope 50 inch LED sitting on a couch 10 feet away, combined with your condition, you really have no chance in hell. Yes it looks amazing, but there is simply too much for your eye to look at when the screen is that big. If you have newer monitor I highly suggest trying it out. When it comes to FPS online you will never go back.


On a side note for anyone actually on the dev team:

Please Crytek fix this game.... it really is extremely good and could be incredible if the developers provided some additional support.

I realise Crytek UK handles the multiplayer, which could be the reason why we haven't heard anything... but honestly a game of this calibur should not be released just to die. I WANT to download the DLC and I WANT to play other game types, but until some of the main issues (mostly networking) are addressed, I don't know if I can... cheers y'all.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:08 am

to be honest i think the cloak is perfect and u talk about the campers blah blah but soon enough they will realise to be pro at crysis to get good scores u need to have speed strength and stealth together camping only covers one of them and they will soon realise that and stop camping don't worry the game has just came out and obviously them people are just a lot slower than you at realising how to really play this games they can get a high kd and u can get a low kd but still u are the better player cz your playing this game the way it should be played and i adivse using cloak tracker or visor enhance or proximity alarm xD
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:43 am

As I previously mentioned, I don't see colour like everyone else who plays this game; making it more difficult for me to see. I mean, my PC has compatibility for "Disabilities" such as mine. fair enough, I might not be disabled in a manner to which is visible to the naked eye "No pun intended" but, as I have a visual disability I don't see colour very well. It's all shades to me.

I wouldn't mind a patch or something being released where I can turn on "Compatibility mode" which works for us colour deficient people, which instead of brightly coloured things, everything is shaded instead. So that it looks the same to me as it would you.

I'm not saying give me an advantage because I'm near enough blind, I'm saying make it fair so that I can see the damn game too. Every other market applies to those with visual issues, such as PC, TV, etc. However, games consoles still don't have much support for deficient's like me.

I'm not here to make an argument, I made the post to point out that yes, it is hard to see the cloaked players. To normal people, they're hard to see, but to me, it's IMPOSSIBLE to see them. I mean, I physically cannot see them. The option of not playing the game, is available. however, it is unfair to say that as Equal rights falls into play.

Any suggestions would be nice.

Thanks.

Seems a fair enough request mate.

Maybe try a PM or e-mail to Crytek as you don't have a hope in hell getting a reply here I'm afraid as they have ditched their fanbase.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:15 pm

Put it this way, the addition of the colou tint of cloak makes it fairly easy to see to the point where I go "Oh, a cloaked guy." However, the abuse and overuse of certain modules makes it so that people can be cloaked almost 24/7. Cloak itself needs to be better, but the module abuse needs to get fixed.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:40 am

The biggest piece of advice I can give though lies upon your gaming screen. I say this all the time. You absolutely NEED a smaller screen high resolution gaming monitor for competitive online FPS. Period. A 22-24" 1080p or even 1680x1050 is absolutely essential.


so your telling me that a 24inch 1080p tv makes it easier to spot cloakers? I'm playing on a 20inch SD cause i returned my 22inch 1080p cause I have exams now and I thought something better would of came out but nothing has, so it helps and what else? Would 32 inches be too big or is a 24inch perfect?
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:11 am

It's really all personal preference... but, I have been playing FPS on consoles for years and without a doubt when I switched over to smaller screen gaming monitors, every aspect of my game improved. You just see so much more and your eye doesn't have to move to catch things you will miss on a bigger TV.

Take MLG for example, if you have ever seen the pros play they are all sitting close to smaller screen tv/monitors.
The resolution is so high and the screen isn't that big so you get full detail and minimal stretching of the image.

I would say anything between 20-24" on 1080p w/ HDMI is optimal. Most monitors don't have speakers so you will have to hook your audio up through an amp or external source (or use a gaming headset).

As far as 32" goes, I would say that is a MAX size for FPS efficiency. Obviously you can play on anything, but I'm a firm believer that once you try gaming on a smaller screen you won't go back.

My 42" is great for sports games, movies and single player.. but I'd never play competitive MP on it.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:42 am

Even 20" is too big for my eyespan. I don't see too well. One eye has minimal to nothing visual capabilities, the other is completely colour blind. well, both are... But, I play on a 12" SD Screen which is an old LCD monitor I picked up about 10 years ago. Still works, but I have to keep it as it has a special overlay which has like a "magnifying" layer over the top so that I can see it clearer.

12" works perfectly for me, but, for everyone else I know who manages to play they can see their 40" no problem, or some people I play with have 72" projectors. I think it's extreme... I can't see it. I have to sit close to even remotely see anything. I play on Full brightness on both game and screen... I still struggle to see it.
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