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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:59 pm

actually, with the mobo iwant to get, the vref and PICe lane width for SLI, it'smore like a 45-50% incnrease...thats why u dont see it as a 'waste of money'. also, 1200 W PSU is overkill eiterway, but its good headroom.

45-50% increase that you won't see, because games aren't that advanced yet. There is no such thing as "future proofing"... If you get a single powerful card (which will be perfectly fine for current games), then you can get a better card in the future when the prices go down and technology advances.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:15 am

actually, with the mobo iwant to get, the vref and PICe lane width for SLI, it'smore like a 45-50% incnrease...thats why u dont see it as a 'waste of money'. also, 1200 W PSU is overkill eiterway, but its good headroom.



45-50% increase that you won't see, because games aren't that advanced yet. There is no such thing as "future proofing"... If you get a single powerful card (which will be perfectly fine for current games), then you can get a better card in the future when the prices go down and technology advances.


I agree with this. Besides, save the $500, wait 3-5 years, buy a new card for $500. You will see a huge difference (more than you would if you just got 2 SLI cards now).
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:34 am

I have a quick question about upgrading a laptop....how?

I have a Dell Inspiron 1750, 17". How do I access things like the hardrive, RAM, processor, ect? It's a laptop, so I can't just take the side-panel off and see what's there.



You usually can't, unless it's just adding more RAM.


Well there are some exceptions of course. I had a laptop that allowed me to install a better processor if I wanted to. As well as upgrade the screen and the HDD as well as the RAM. BUT, if you have to ask how to upgrade a laptop, you probably shouldn't rip your laptop apart and do these things yourself. If you pay somebody to do it, parts and labor would cost probably more than just buying a laptop with the better specs. The easiest thing that you could probably do is just install RAM.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:34 am

i need advice on my build, im upgrading and im reathr unsure still about some things.

1: my case. its such a mind-blowing decission but idk, im torn between style and room and airflow and features. i want 3.5" internal bays, i wasnt sata III, i wand usb 3.0, but i need a lot of room (full tower), and i need good airflow (not planning on water cooling....for a while), and that means lots of nice, not too lound, and good lookign fans. so im torn between http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129063, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112261, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225. just too mind-boggling!

internal disc hdd, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148610, for music/media/whathaveyou.

sound card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102024

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014, amazing price btw.


thermal paste since im air cooling i need to make my cpu ice coooold: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100008

now the mobo...im not too sure. very torn still. i was looking at this model in particular because im SLI'ing and the PICe rate is amazing (x16 x16 for sli) not sure if there's SATA III suport yet??!: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128465

cpu...im torn still. but hardly a real decission, sandybridge is so good. still want to go hexa-core soon, but not yet...besides these things OC on air like no other: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

heatsink, again air cooling, found this one to be VERY good at removing heat/absorbing heat: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001

SSD for gaming, amazing load times wooh. this will be the primary drive with windows 7 on it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148362


now im wanting to go SLI with 2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590

still deciding on RAM....any opinions? might be a few more months till i ca upgrade up tax return season is here so that'll help...;p


If you're willing to waste money on 2 580s, spend the money for a Fortress FT02. Extremely quiet and absolutely amazing air cooling case.

That HDD is a terrible choice for a home computer. Get a samsung spinpoint F3 or a WD Caviar black, or if you really want 2TB in one drive, a spinpoint F4.

You don't need a soundcard, and you definitely don't need a $100 soundcard. This would be just fine if you really want one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132020

Megahalems is fine. Noctua D14 is better, but it's bigger and more expensive.

SLI 580s is pointless unless you also plan on using 3 monitors.

Hex-core is completely pointless for gaming, and is an absolutely terrible thing to prioritize, especially when the SB quad-cores perform so well.

For RAM, this is fine:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311

4GB would be perfectly fine as well, unless you plan to render video or work with high resolution images.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:53 am

If you haven't gotten that notebook yet, consider this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Gateway-ID49C11u-14-Inch-Laptop/dp/B003Y3BFHW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296022400&sr=8-1

Thats what I figured, just getting a second opinion.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:12 am

Yea, I was just messing around with my laptop and I somehow screwed my audio up. I have no idea what I did. I reset all settings the audio card says that it's working properly and the driver is current. It's not muted, I can hear volume when I plug headphones in. I restored to a system restore point that was yesterday and I know for a fact it was working then. I changed my start-up programs and that was what caused my audio to not work. I looked and all things after the restore and they were restored to start-up. When I look at the volume mixer it says that the speakers are playing sound but unless I am incredibly deaf they are not.

Any suggestions?

I'm sure that if I do a reformat it will fix my problem, I just don't want to do it...

EDIT: Well I restarted and did a diagnostic start-up and it somehow fixed itself... Weird stuff.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:28 am

i need advice on my build, im upgrading and im reathr unsure still about some things.

1: my case. its such a mind-blowing decission but idk, im torn between style and room and airflow and features. i want 3.5" internal bays, i wasnt sata III, i wand usb 3.0, but i need a lot of room (full tower), and i need good airflow (not planning on water cooling....for a while), and that means lots of nice, not too lound, and good lookign fans. so im torn between http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129063, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112261, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225. just too mind-boggling!

internal disc hdd, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148610, for music/media/whathaveyou.

sound card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102024

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014, amazing price btw.


thermal paste since im air cooling i need to make my cpu ice coooold: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100008

now the mobo...im not too sure. very torn still. i was looking at this model in particular because im SLI'ing and the PICe rate is amazing (x16 x16 for sli) not sure if there's SATA III suport yet??!: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128465

cpu...im torn still. but hardly a real decission, sandybridge is so good. still want to go hexa-core soon, but not yet...besides these things OC on air like no other: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

heatsink, again air cooling, found this one to be VERY good at removing heat/absorbing heat: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001

SSD for gaming, amazing load times wooh. this will be the primary drive with windows 7 on it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148362


now im wanting to go SLI with 2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590

still deciding on RAM....any opinions? might be a few more months till i ca upgrade up tax return season is here so that'll help...;p

Seems like a lot of money going to waste, and from your typing, I'm guessing it's not yours. :teehee:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:20 am

i need advice on my build, im upgrading and im reathr unsure still about some things.

1: my case. its such a mind-blowing decission but idk, im torn between style and room and airflow and features. i want 3.5" internal bays, i wasnt sata III, i wand usb 3.0, but i need a lot of room (full tower), and i need good airflow (not planning on water cooling....for a while), and that means lots of nice, not too lound, and good lookign fans. so im torn between http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129063, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112261, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225. just too mind-boggling!

internal disc hdd, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148610, for music/media/whathaveyou.

sound card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102024

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014, amazing price btw.


thermal paste since im air cooling i need to make my cpu ice coooold: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100008

now the mobo...im not too sure. very torn still. i was looking at this model in particular because im SLI'ing and the PICe rate is amazing (x16 x16 for sli) not sure if there's SATA III suport yet??!: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128465

cpu...im torn still. but hardly a real decission, sandybridge is so good. still want to go hexa-core soon, but not yet...besides these things OC on air like no other: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

heatsink, again air cooling, found this one to be VERY good at removing heat/absorbing heat: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001

SSD for gaming, amazing load times wooh. this will be the primary drive with windows 7 on it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148362


now im wanting to go SLI with 2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590

still deciding on RAM....any opinions? might be a few more months till i ca upgrade up tax return season is here so that'll help...;p



Definitely not the best choices I've seen.....
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:27 am

I have a quick question about upgrading a laptop....how?

I have a Dell Inspiron 1750, 17". How do I access things like the hardrive, RAM, processor, ect? It's a laptop, so I can't just take the side-panel off and see what's there.


Hard drive and RAM access is usually at the bottom of the notebook...some cover held by a couple screws. These are usually upgradeable these days, but you may need that OS disc handy if changin hard drive.

Some notebooks have motherboards that allow CPU upgrades, but this is motherboard specific. Getting access to that requires disassembling quite a bit.

Video card/chip is very rare for upgrade access. The space and heat constraints is the problem here and finding a chip that will work is just as difficult, if not impossible. Dell may have an alternative video card option to put in there for you, but you will have to send the notebook in to have it done and it won't be cheap. Give em a call if you really want to know.

Or take the time and browse around Dell's website for installation manuals. They're pretty good about providing manuals with pics of the notebook innards.


i need advice on my build, im upgrading and im reathr unsure still about some things.

1: my case. its such a mind-blowing decission but idk, im torn between style and room and airflow and features. i want 3.5" internal bays, i wasnt sata III, i wand usb 3.0, but i need a lot of room (full tower), and i need good airflow (not planning on water cooling....for a while), and that means lots of nice, not too lound, and good lookign fans. so im torn between http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129063, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112261, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225. just too mind-boggling!

internal disc hdd, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148610, for music/media/whathaveyou.

sound card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102024

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139014, amazing price btw.


thermal paste since im air cooling i need to make my cpu ice coooold: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100008

now the mobo...im not too sure. very torn still. i was looking at this model in particular because im SLI'ing and the PICe rate is amazing (x16 x16 for sli) not sure if there's SATA III suport yet??!: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128465

cpu...im torn still. but hardly a real decission, sandybridge is so good. still want to go hexa-core soon, but not yet...besides these things OC on air like no other: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

heatsink, again air cooling, found this one to be VERY good at removing heat/absorbing heat: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001

SSD for gaming, amazing load times wooh. this will be the primary drive with windows 7 on it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148362


now im wanting to go SLI with 2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130590

still deciding on RAM....any opinions? might be a few more months till i ca upgrade up tax return season is here so that'll help...;p


Take a look at Corsair cases. Those are just plain awesome:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&Description=corsair%20case&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=20

Motherboard is solid for sure, but too damn expensive for my tastes. And I have no desire at all for SLI/Crossfire.

If you're only gaming and not doing much else, those extra 4 threads on the Core i7 2600K will just go unused. Hopefully, you're video editing or rendering of some sort. Otherwise, can settle for the 2500K because it's a great chip too...I have one :P

Dual GTX 580 is overkill. If you're Folding, it'll certainly be beneficial....but still major overkill for gaming. I will admit games like Crysis and Metro 2033 can still be system killers though. The heat and power consumption will be heavy. A quality 950W PSU can handle those with your CPU overclock. The 1000W Corsair would be a good choice here. However, i too feel a single video card setup is better and will save you lots of cash on the motherboard and PSU side of things.

For RAM....G Skill DDR3 1600 at least. 4GB is plenty.


Awesome, thank you for your reply :) I'll look into the AMD card.
Now, the thing is, I wouldn't have a cluuue what parts I have :lol: I just kinda decided last night when I dug the old PC out that I was going to upgrade it. I have no experience, but I figured I could learn, right? All I can see is that my motherboard says "Foxconn" on it, but I can't say much more than that, other than it's about 6 years old :P if it would help, I can take some photos?

1. Basically, I just want to get it built to a decent standard. Not hardcoe-ultimate-top-of-the-range specs, but decent. I have no real budget of yet, as I'm moving in a month, going on financial aid (as a student) and maybe getting a job, so I will basically be buying bits when I've got the money to, with no real budget cap.
2. Yeah :(
3. Planning on building it myself. I've got one that was once upon a time running, had some bits nabbed out of it, and is no longer running. I pretty much want to put all-new bits in it.
4. Basically nothing. I've got a few places I can get free/cheap monitors from, I have keyboards coming out my ears, good speakers and a broken mouse but it does the job. OS disk will be needed, propably, which I'm not looking forward to. Got the tower, just need to buy things to put in to make it play nice.


Go downoad PC Wizard...it'll tell you model numbers and such of several of your components:
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/pc-wizard.html

What case you got?

The thing about buying pieces little by little over a long period of time is that hardware can become obsoleted by newer stuff within 6 months. If anything, prices can drop too. IMO, it's better to get everything at once to reduce the feeling of buyer's remorse.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:08 pm

Go downoad PC Wizard...it'll tell you model numbers and such of several of your components:
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/pc-wizard.html

What case you got?

The thing about buying pieces little by little over a long period of time is that hardware can become obsoleted by newer stuff within 6 months. If anything, prices can drop too. IMO, it's better to get everything at once to reduce the feeling of buyer's remorse.


Am I correct in guessing I'd need to download PC wizard on the desktop I want to upgrade? Cause it's not going at the moment. It's missing a few bits, they got taken out without my knowledge, and thus does not go. Including the power cable. I got another one today, but it's too late to go hook up a monitor and turn the thing on, if it even goes, cause I'm not sure what's been yoinked out of it. Sigh. This is getting complicated.

And damn. I thought that might be the case. Not worried about price drop really, that's kinda unavoidable I think. I'd probably have the money for most of it within 6 months, if I'm really stingy with my money. There are at least some things I could get first that aren't likely to be obsolete that quickly? Thing is there is no way, at all, ever, in any way shape or form short of winning the lottery, that I can buy it all in one go.

Starting to think perhaps I should just not bother.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:01 am

So I just picked up my semi-new, bright, and shiny Gulftown i7 990x (seriously! it's sitting here on my desk!).

My project now it to build a computer around it. My goal is a nice gaming platform that can hold its own as a workstations as well. For now, i'm setting my budget (not including proc, obviously) at about $1000. I can hold my own finding a PSU and case and the like, but i really need some good advice for selecting a good solid motherboard, ram, and GPU. Along with that i've got some philosophical questions along the lines of, "is it worth it to shell out for the faster (10k rpm) hard drive or even a solid state drive?" After the uncommon but inevitable recurring crashes i've experienced with my last build (Q6600, p35 chipset, 8800gt, etc), I'm going to try to prioritize stability over performance this time around, but i really hope i don't have to sacrifice much to that ends. If my workload other than games is going to be relatively light for the foreseeable future, what is a good speed/quantity combination for ram? Personally i love the 2gbs of OCZ Reaper i've been running (mostly for their looks), but if someone has good pointers on the finer points of memory selection, that would also be helpful. Of course my primary concern is the motherboard, and i know that with the socket required for the 990x, my choices are a bit limited, but if my goal is stability, what... and who (brand), should i keep an eye out for? As far as video cards, I was thinking about just going for the highest numbered nVidia card that evga has available, but there has got to be a better, more nuanced approach to it (i'm remembering the 8800 era when the "better" card with 768mb memory had so many more stability and performance issues compared to the 512mb version).

Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.

oh and, thanks... ahead of time. :)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:25 am

Am I correct in guessing I'd need to download PC wizard on the desktop I want to upgrade? Cause it's not going at the moment. It's missing a few bits, they got taken out without my knowledge, and thus does not go. Including the power cable. I got another one today, but it's too late to go hook up a monitor and turn the thing on, if it even goes, cause I'm not sure what's been yoinked out of it. Sigh. This is getting complicated.

And damn. I thought that might be the case. Not worried about price drop really, that's kinda unavoidable I think. I'd probably have the money for most of it within 6 months, if I'm really stingy with my money. There are at least some things I could get first that aren't likely to be obsolete that quickly? Thing is there is no way, at all, ever, in any way shape or form short of winning the lottery, that I can buy it all in one go.

Starting to think perhaps I should just not bother.

Depending on what all you need, I think RAM, a case, and a hard drive would be safe things to buy piece by piece. RAM is kind of iffy, but I think 240-pin DDR3 is going to last for long enough. Motherboard, power supply, CPU, and graphics card probably need to be done all at once.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:39 am

So I just picked up my semi-new, bright, and shiny Gulftown i7 990x (seriously! it's sitting here on my desk!).

How'd you acquire this 990x?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:42 am

How'd you acquire this 990x?

AFAIK, the 990X has not been release to consumers (estimated sometime in Q1 of this year). The 980X (3.3GHz) is available and matches the 990X excluding the stock clock rate of 3.46GHz.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:13 pm

So "I got" (not mine, just helping out someone with it) an Acer Aspire One AO150 that refuses to connect to WPA-AES PSK networks. Well, actually, it says it connects all fine and dandy, but it can't communicate with anything either on the local network or the Internet at large. It connects fine and actually works when I switch to WPA-TKIP PSK (but we all know that isn't much better than WEP). According to Acer's website it has the latest driver (7.6.0.224 for some Atheros chip, can't remember the model number off the top of my head), though I've found this, but not tried it yet: http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/NETWORK-CARD/OTHER-NETWORK-CARDS/Acer-Aspire-One-150-Atheros-WLAN-Driver-761149.shtml

The Acer in question is running XP Home SP3. I've not yet had the chance to try it against a WPA2 networks.

Anyone had a similar experience/have any ideas?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:29 pm

What are some good parameters for virtual memory on a Windows 7 system with 4g of RAM? Some of my games are running into problems with my virtual memory (They call it pool memory, I guess that's the same) running too low. Right now it is set to have windows automatically adjust it.

EDIT: Windows says the recommended amount is 6 gig, but that seems rather sketchy to me.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:30 pm

Hey guys. Not sure if this goes here or not, or if anybody would be able to answer.

I'm planning on upgrading my desktop for college. Currently, I have an AMD Phenom II X2 @ 3.1 Ghz, Radeon HD 4850, 4 gigs DDR2 ram.

I'm just trying to figure out when the best time to upgrade would be. I have 7 months till college (August). I was curious if anybody knew about new hardware releases within the time-frame? Or would it not make any difference at all to when I upgrade.

I was planning on trying to find somebody to sell my current computer to for like 50% off retail prices (for like $300 or so) and doing a full new build (Minus windows, monitor, keyboard, mouse, and headset). I was planning on going with an AMD Phenom II X4 @ 3.4 Ghz, Radeon HD 6870, and 4 gigs DDR3 ram.

This probably seems like a pointless post, I was just wondering what people's thoughts are on the timeline of upgrading and whether or not it's worth upgrading to the new hardware.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:16 am

How'd you acquire this 990x?

Working for Intel has its benefits. Can I get some pointers about the latest and greatest mobos and vid cards then?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:23 am

I have an AMD 1075t 6 core processor. I know this is a good processor but I was curious if there are any video cards in the foreseeable future that will have enough power to be bottle-necked by this processor.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:12 am

Working for Intel has its benefits. Can I get some pointers about the latest and greatest mobos and vid cards then?

Asus Sabertooth X58 is a great, well-priced 1366 mobo (it does use socket 1366, right?). For videocards, the 570 is the most expensive I'd consider, since the 580 is ridiculously expensive. The 570 and 6970 are pretty similar in performance. The 6950 is under $300, and can be flashed with the 6970 firmware to perform essentially the same (this is what I'm using). It's definitely not worth it getting a 10,000 RPM HDD. Loud, hot, high failure rates, small size, expensive. Get a Spinpoint F3 for mass storage and an SSD for OS/a few games.
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Asus Sabertooth X58 is a great, well-priced 1366 mobo (it does use socket 1366, right?). For videocards, the 570 is the most expensive I'd consider, since the 580 is ridiculously expensive. The 570 and 6970 are pretty similar in performance. The 6950 is under $300, and can be flashed with the 6970 firmware to perform essentially the same (this is what I'm using). It's definitely not worth it getting a 10,000 RPM HDD. Loud, hot, high failure rates, small size, expensive. Get a Spinpoint F3 for mass storage and an SSD for OS/a few games.


Ohh, zig-zaggey heat sinks. hehe. it'd be a shame to cover those up with a monsterous CPU cooler.

what's the life expectancy and failure rate for SSDs? How does the read/write speed of http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008120%20600038478&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=REVIEWS&PageSize=20 compare to the average 7200 rpm hdd?

is the spinpoint much better than any other name brand 7200 rpm TB drives out there right now?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:08 am

Am I correct in guessing I'd need to download PC wizard on the desktop I want to upgrade? Cause it's not going at the moment. It's missing a few bits, they got taken out without my knowledge, and thus does not go. Including the power cable. I got another one today, but it's too late to go hook up a monitor and turn the thing on, if it even goes, cause I'm not sure what's been yoinked out of it. Sigh. This is getting complicated.

And damn. I thought that might be the case. Not worried about price drop really, that's kinda unavoidable I think. I'd probably have the money for most of it within 6 months, if I'm really stingy with my money. There are at least some things I could get first that aren't likely to be obsolete that quickly? Thing is there is no way, at all, ever, in any way shape or form short of winning the lottery, that I can buy it all in one go.

Starting to think perhaps I should just not bother.


There most certainly are items that can be gotten without worries of obsoletion as mentioned by Ninja Monkey. However, looks like you already have a case although I dunno what it is. RAM, hard drives, DVD drives are ok investments as well. The CPU, GPU, and MOBO...definitely get together.

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=600006066&IsNodeId=1&Description=g%20skill%20ddr3%201600&name=4GB%20%282%20x%202GB%29...2nd or 3rd on the list highly recommended, but take your pick really.
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&cm_re=samsung_1tb-_-22-152-185-_-Product or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533&cm_re=1tb_caviar_black-_-22-136-533-_-Product drives
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204&cm_re=asus_sata_dvd-_-27-135-204-_-Product



So I just picked up my semi-new, bright, and shiny Gulftown i7 990x (seriously! it's sitting here on my desk!).

My project now it to build a computer around it. My goal is a nice gaming platform that can hold its own as a workstations as well. For now, i'm setting my budget (not including proc, obviously) at about $1000. I can hold my own finding a PSU and case and the like, but i really need some good advice for selecting a good solid motherboard, ram, and GPU. Along with that i've got some philosophical questions along the lines of, "is it worth it to shell out for the faster (10k rpm) hard drive or even a solid state drive?" After the uncommon but inevitable recurring crashes i've experienced with my last build (Q6600, p35 chipset, 8800gt, etc), I'm going to try to prioritize stability over performance this time around, but i really hope i don't have to sacrifice much to that ends. If my workload other than games is going to be relatively light for the foreseeable future, what is a good speed/quantity combination for ram? Personally i love the 2gbs of OCZ Reaper i've been running (mostly for their looks), but if someone has good pointers on the finer points of memory selection, that would also be helpful. Of course my primary concern is the motherboard, and i know that with the socket required for the 990x, my choices are a bit limited, but if my goal is stability, what... and who (brand), should i keep an eye out for? As far as video cards, I was thinking about just going for the highest numbered nVidia card that evga has available, but there has got to be a better, more nuanced approach to it (i'm remembering the 8800 era when the "better" card with 768mb memory had so many more stability and performance issues compared to the 512mb version).

Help me Obi Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope.

oh and, thanks... ahead of time. :)


Avoid 10K RPM drives these days. Caviar Blacks and Samsung's F3 drives are close in several performance comparisons to it. SSD's would probably be a worthy investment for you with your budget and what you already have hardware-wise.

G Skill DDR3 RipJaws RAM are very well-received these days, perhaps even more so than stuff from Corsair. Take a look at DDR3 1600 at least.

For motherboard, Gigabyte and Asus X58 chipset boards. One of these two will be fine:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128423&cm_re=x58_motherboard-_-13-128-423-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131665&cm_re=x58_motherboard-_-13-131-665-_-Product

Nvidia's GTX 580 is the fastest single GPU card out with only the dual GPU Radeon 5970 beating it.


Hey guys. Not sure if this goes here or not, or if anybody would be able to answer.

I'm planning on upgrading my desktop for college. Currently, I have an AMD Phenom II X2 @ 3.1 Ghz, Radeon HD 4850, 4 gigs DDR2 ram.

I'm just trying to figure out when the best time to upgrade would be. I have 7 months till college (August). I was curious if anybody knew about new hardware releases within the time-frame? Or would it not make any difference at all to when I upgrade.

I was planning on trying to find somebody to sell my current computer to for like 50% off retail prices (for like $300 or so) and doing a full new build (Minus windows, monitor, keyboard, mouse, and headset). I was planning on going with an AMD Phenom II X4 @ 3.4 Ghz, Radeon HD 6870, and 4 gigs DDR3 ram.

This probably seems like a pointless post, I was just wondering what people's thoughts are on the timeline of upgrading and whether or not it's worth upgrading to the new hardware.


By August, I would expect AMD's Bulldozer chips to be out. They are supposedly slated to be released in Q2 of this year and will be going head to head with Intel's just released Sandybridge.


Ohh, zig-zaggey heat sinks. hehe. it'd be a shame to cover those up with a monsterous CPU cooler.

what's the life expectancy and failure rate for SSDs? How does the read/write speed of http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100008120%20600038478&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=REVIEWS&PageSize=20 compare to the average 7200 rpm hdd?

is the spinpoint much better than any other name brand 7200 rpm TB drives out there right now?


Should just google around for some benchmarks because there are plenty of them out there. These should give an idea of the speed of SSD's:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2009/10/06/samsung-spinpoint-f3-1tb-review/1
http://www.techspot.com/review/160-solid-state-drive-roundup/
http://www.techspot.com/review/181-solid-state-drive-roundup2/

Western Digital's Caviar Black drives outperform the Samsung's F3 a tad.
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Alisia Lisha
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:12 am

There most certainly are items that can be gotten without worries of obsoletion as mentioned by Ninja Monkey. However, looks like you already have a case although I dunno what it is. RAM, hard drives, DVD drives are ok investments as well. The CPU, GPU, and MOBO...definitely get together.

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=600006066&IsNodeId=1&Description=g%20skill%20ddr3%201600&name=4GB%20%282%20x%202GB%29...2nd or 3rd on the list highly recommended, but take your pick really.
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185&cm_re=samsung_1tb-_-22-152-185-_-Product or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533&cm_re=1tb_caviar_black-_-22-136-533-_-Product drives
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204&cm_re=asus_sata_dvd-_-27-135-204-_-Product

:facepalm: Why do I always forget about DVD drives? Every time!
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Blaine
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:33 pm

Okay, I have an extra monitor laying around and I'm wondering what I would need to buy and/or do to have both of 'em hooked up.

I've googled the likes of "dual monitor setup" but none of the guides I've read helped me at all, mainly because I'm illiterate when it comes to all these hardware terms and such.

Any help?
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Taylor Thompson
 
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:49 am

Okay, I have an extra monitor laying around and I'm wondering what I would need to buy and/or do to have both of 'em hooked up.

I've googled the likes of "dual monitor setup" but none of the guides I've read helped me at all, mainly because I'm illiterate when it comes to all these hardware terms and such.

Any help?

Does your video card have two DVI/HDMI/VGA ports?
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