This has always bugged me about the Fallout universe. If the timeline deviated in the 50s, then presumably there would have been no civil rights movement, no second-wave feminism, no sixual revolution, etc. Yet the characters in the games all appear to be integrated in some kind of perfect post-racial harmony. Did the apocalypse suddenly bring everyone together? It seems unlikely that there could have been a coherent civil rights movement in the middle of nuclear war or in a post-apocalyptic environment. On the other hand, I suppose you could argue that in a anarchic post-apocalyptic world, power structures - including those that perpetuate racism, etc - break down and become less meaningful. Still, it's weird that this doesn't get mentioned.

I mentioned this in an earlier thread but here goes a Caesar's Legion troop in either the best armor available to legion troops or his own stylized PA, a hilarious personality, and boxing gloves as his only weapon, because he is just THAT hardcoe. You see him win a fight against an armed opponent, then he says: "I am the greatest!" just like a certain boxer you may have heard of.

People just laid off with that when society fell 200 years ago, and started working on wasteland survival and began to cooperate.

There is racism - towards ghouls and muties. And NCR are supposedly against discrimination, they do let ghouls and muties in their army so... but stil, people look at them because their skin doesn't look like their does.

That would be an awesome Easter egg.

Quests that involve real investigation that either you pick up on it or not.

Quests that force you into real choices of the kind, do I save the scientist who can cure a disease rauaging the wasteland or do I save the children about to be dipped in the vats, can't do both though.

If anything is given a real sense of urgency then if I dawdle something negative happens (like settlements actual fall to that mutant horde advancing across the wasteland)

tactical turn based combat that takes JA, SS, UFO and TOEE and advances the concept to be the most awesome turn based combat that has even been created and brings the concept firmly into the 21st century.

An equal opportunity(employer) Enclave remnant base. One of its members could be a SM called Uncle Ruckus who thinks mutants should be exterminated despite being a mutant himself.

I would like to see a civil rights movement by the Ghouls.

They'll never make it into the game?

what is peoples love affair with the old school camera angles? isometric svcks hahaha. It is anything BUT immersive, and RPG's should be immersive. Also as for turn based, that doesnt sell so no we wont see that again. and although sad its not the end of the world, the turn based combat did get a little dull after a while.

That's your opinion, and hey, guess what, screw immersion.
What is peoples love affair with immersion?

uhm.... RPG=Role Playing Game.... Role Playing means the player is taking on a role, immersion is REQUIRED for an RPG to succeed in allowing the player to really get into their role.

i agree

You should have Tupac as a follower and automagically become epic by association B)

But then he gets shot :gun: and you don't even sees it happen

BTW agree with ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ post

Word. He did get shot in Vegas....

I wasn't all that serious about that statement.
I just hate that word. "Immersion".

haha, okay, but you know what im saying right? a behind the back third person view or a first person view is far more personal then being a floating eye 30 feet above the character. Isometric was only used because it was the only viable option with the technology at the time.

Well I guess it's up to player preference, I got... Ugh, Immersed, when I played the old games.
Oh god... I need to go take a shower.

oh i did too, but there was always that... distance. its just i would have felt far more in the world if i was seeing the world from the view a person in the world would be seeing it. And with the technology we have today that is possible, i have no idea why anyone would want to regress back to something that is lesser.

:foodndrink:

BTW didn't know he was shot in Vegas :shrug: lol moment for me :rofl:

East Coast im assuming?

I figured you didn't know lol. A legend gets killed in Vegas and nobody has a clue as to who did it or what they looked like...sad.

Well it was fallout 2 that made me fall in love with the franchise, so I guess I'm just nostalgic and sad that nothing (except for a few upcoming TC mods) new will be the same as the first fallout game I played.
I hope Bethesda let's someone do a spin-off that's turnbased and isometric at least.

I knew he got shot around that general area, but I consider Dr. Dre more of a legend, and living at that.

DING!!!idea!!!

Dr. Dre, Ice Cube, DJ Yella, and Easy E as followers, meanwhile you are MC Ren :jammasterjay:

But then Dr. Dre and Easy E get in an argument over money :swear: Easy E and Ice Cube leave the group :bolt:

Dr Dre joins with some guy named Snoop Doggy Dog and ends up as a legend, while you (MC Ren) and DJ Yella are forgotten :sadvaultboy:

May not be an accurate history of the group, but would be cool as hell :wink_smile:

An out-of-uniform NCR ranger named Walker who travels the wastes righting wrongs.

Yup that's pretty much how N.W.A. ended. Easy E would make a hell of a companion just with his words. Or every time Snoop shoots somebody he goes "We don't love them hoes" lol. Slick Rick would be the best companion though...with his amazing storytelling skills

OMG Yes!!!

This :thumbsup: