i have an xbox and play a lot of fallout and oblivion all i really play know on the xbox so my question is it really worth getting rid of my xbox and all christmas money for a computer thanks

If you're interested in mods it probably is but otherwise I'm not sure if it's worth it - obviously you're already enjoying them on the XBox

PCs can sometimes take a bit of work to get things to run well and this is certainly true of modding if you really got in to it so you also need to be willing to put up with the occasional difficulties.

Well, it depends. I own a ps3 and a PC, and I use both equally. While I would say that a PC is better, especially for Fallout, than a 360, I wouldn't go so far to say that you should sell your 360, unless it's literally your only option. Then I would consider it.

good point but i plan to use it for more than just gaming like listing to music and i have my coarsework coming up so they are other reasons i was planing on geting one

You can use mods created by the community, some of them greatly enhance the game in various aspects. There are also unofficial patches that fix most of the bugs you find in the console versions.

The mods also make your game crash a lot. And you've already played the game. So i dont see any reason to get a new pc just for fallout and/or oblivion.

Well that's certainly not true. A properly made mod will have absolutely no impact on the overall stability of either Fallout or Oblivion.



All the more reason the get the PC version and get into mods. They allow you to turn both titles into something completely new and fresh.

I for sure am 100% a PC guy. I hate consols, the controls feel unnatural in my hands, the graphics are horrible. I think buying a really nice computer pays off, but its only worth it if you buy games for it. I have easily over 50-75 games for my computer (built up over like 10 years) and its worth it as I have a fantastic graphics card and processor. But it may not be worth it to feed both an Xbox and PC. I would pick one and go with it. I think the PC gives more options with games and I really like that, including mods, the console, and thus 'cheats', so you can make videos and such much more easily if you want. Or just mess around with god mode on.

well worth it and don't let anyone who hasn't experienced it tell you different, the PC version of Fallout 3 blows the console version out of the water, i've played on all three platforms

after playing on both the PC and the 360 with both fallout 3 and oblivion, Id say the 360 is better then the PC.
I started on the 360 and beat the game and all the DLC before getting the PC version and almost instantly got into the mods. I grabbed about 15 various ones that were compatible and the unofficial patches, and unlike most here claim, it didnt change the experience of the game for me. Yes they added a few new things, but they didnt really change the experience. If anything, all they did was make it feel like a FPS, and that you unlocked a newer difficulty with all the same quests and stats. the mods I downloaded turned fallout 3 from an RPG, to a "Fallout 3 CoD" mashup, which got boring quickly, and I ended up going back to my 360.
Also, the controller feels right in my hands, compared to having my hands sprawled out on a keyboard and mouse, And the lag added on the PC from the mods and continous piles of corpses I left in my wake in every area made the game almost unplayable. I had to turn almost everything off, and had to turn everything else down. MInd you im on a prety good PC, But when the vanilla game itself lags and crashes after 20 minutes, and does that even on the lowest settings, im done. I still have this here as well-
360 crashes since Fallout 3 release- 27 (crashed the other day when I was MIRVing the citadel for lulz)
PC crashes in the week I had it on the PC- 48 (4 before i downloaded mods)

I actually play my 360 in a Computer chair, so that doesnt factor into it, but what I found was that whilst the 360 controller was cupped in my hands and all the controls were right there at my fingertips, the PC version had to be reconfigured 1000 times over due to mod functions, using various keys to do modded activities, and if your like me and play in the dark, that gets to be a problem. "OK im going to sprint out of here and heal and OH GOD WHY AM I CROUCHED NOW? NO STOP JUMPING AND CHANGING WEAPO- I died......"
Guess my point is, PC is to much of a hassle ot be worth it, unless you have an extremely good PC (Cause mine is better then the minimal requirements, and it STILL had to look like crap to be playable for 30 minutes), feel more comfortable with a mouse/keyboard and want to sit through immense lag, mod errors and "Dirty edits" as everyone calls the glitches mods cause with the actual game.

EDIT: adont get me wrong, the PC was fun for what little i was able to play, but unless your PC surpasses the minimum requirements and if you dont have the DLC on PC, dont even go for it.

It sounds to me like your computer isn't as good as you think it is, and you simply threw more at it that it can handle. I have quite a list of mods by now, and I have no more of a problem running the game than if I were playing the vanilla version. And I certainly don't have an extremely good PC, just an average one. And don't ever go by the minimum requirements for a game, that tells you nothing. That only indicates whether you can play the game with everything turned down to the lowest possible settings. Even the recommended specs for Fallout were on the low side as far as I'm concerned. If that's all you're basing your computer's performance on, then it most definitely is not as good as you think it is.

My PC is a 2009 HP pavilion that surpassed all of the min. specs by a good bit. I think I have a pretty nice PC.

I agree. I have it on both 360 and PC.

Aaah, a stock PC made for the common consumer. In other words, not that great of a machine. You need to invest a bit in your rig in order to have a half decent gaming machine, starting with the video card. I'm guessing that one just has an integrated graphics chip, which is pretty standard for an off the shelf computer and not designed at all with games in mind. And again, forget about the minimum specs, they mean nothing other than being able to run the game at bare minimum settings. You want to compare with the recommended specs at the very least, then bump it up from there as they even they tend to be on the low side. They only tell you what you need to run a game reasonably well at average settings, not what's optimal for max efficiency. If I can run a bunch of mods with no problems on just an average machine by today's standards, then you shouldn't have had the problems you encountered if your machine was good enough to handle it.

Wired 360 controller

not when you have 8 buttons on the controller, and 12+ keys to hit for your various controls added through various mods.
Unless they made a new controller when I was'nt looking.

The buttons can be remapped through software like Joytokey, Control MK or Pinnacle. I don't often need to use a mod-added hotkey but when I do, I stretch my pinky out to reach my keyboard. I can't play for crap with mouse and keyboard. It hurts my hands too badly. Controller ftw

i have gigantic hands and fingers, i can play with the keyboard and mouse with ease, i 'm geneitcally blessed i suppose, anyways playing on the PC is not much of a hassle sure for the first couple of weeks but well worth it when you get the hang of it

Pardon me for saying this, but what a ridiculously sobby sob-story. Almost made me cry. No really, it did!

The thing is, you're complaining about mods doing something to your gameplay that you didn't want, which begs the question of why the heck you used them to begin with? If you know what playstyle you want then why not focus on that? At this point in time, I wouldn't personally dream of using any of the famous "must have" mods. I don't, at this time, want FWE to completely make FO into a shooter with a ton of arbitrary design decisions from the modders. So I don't download it and install it.

Instead I've added a mod for cross-weapon repairs, a mod for more storage in Megaton, a mod for slower weapon degradation, a mod for better sniper scope zooming, a mod to fix autoaim, a self-made mod to make the Nerves of Steel perk less useless, a mod for better companions that incidentally also contained a mod for making caravans essential so they wouldn't die after 4 hours of playtime. I've really just scraqed the surface at this point.

Yes, there are some stability issues. I tend to have a breakdown every 5-6 hours of active play or so. Then again, I save quite often, both quick and manually, and I've got all autosave options enabled as well. A crash means a 1-minute break and typically only a few minutes worth of lost data, at worst.

Yes, the game does lag from time to time. Partially because I prefer a bit of occasional lag to decreasing view distance, but so what? Are you telling me it runs perfectly with all details maxed on an box 360? If not then what is lost by running it with matching settings on a PC?

Finally, the box-gamepad feels better to you? You feel you get better control by using some inferior miniature joysticks over an time-honed device specialized for accuracy in 2d aiming? Nah, I'm not buying it. It's merely a question of you being way too used to that inferior gamepad. I have the exact same feeling whenever I try to use a console. The controller feels odd, unwieldy, clumsy, and where the hell are my 102 keys to be configured at my own leisure?

And no, I haven't needed to reconfigure my keys 1000 times. In fact I haven't reconfigured them at all. WASD for movement, ctrl for sneaking, shift for walking, space for jumping, E for activate, R for reload / ready / holster, tab for pip / flashlight, and that's about it, isn't it? I've been thinking about binding a key to the "clear blood from screen" console command but so far I haven't bothered to figure out exactly how I'd do that, which is to say that a few blood stains aren't really bothering me enough that I can be arsed to do it.

In summary, I get the distinct feeling that you simply don't like to play games on your computer. You're right that it's easier on a console and that FO3 presents a reasonable end result unmodded, but there are still so many things that could be improved upon.

Spider, dont push this to a console war. Seriously Inferior? Weak arguement is weak.

I tried alot of mods, as I wanted a unique feel to my fallout universe. FWE almost hit it on the mark, and was fine for a while until I stopped actually enjoying the game and just ran down every hallway I could find , modded minigun blaring into everything that even looked like it would move. Trust me, I love playing on the PC, in fact im currently an indy game tester (Which has no relevence here besides stating that i dont hate PC games), but I hated the fact that in order to actually attempt to enjoy F3 on my PC i had to crank everything down, disable all the mods that made it fun, and eventually go to the 360 for my wasteland enjoyment. Yes I see that i dont really have an amazing PC for gaming, but thats no reason to call me out on personal preference. I grew up with consoles, and have only ben playing on the PC for the past 5 years, and I will always prefer the "LOLINFERIOR" system as you call it. IN my opinion, its better. Sure it has a few problems, no command console, no hotkeys other then the D-pad, no user made mods, the EULA, and sure we get the short end of the stick sometimes with updates and patches. But beside the mods and the apparent "PC LOOKS KEWLER" arguement everyones been slinging about like a used tampon in a highschool classroom, the consoles will always be my main choice for gaming.

Also, inb4lock for flamebait, console wars, etc. etc.

Even if you invested only enough to upgrade an older PC to match the Xbox360 in quality, that would mean that you could have it play as you already know it, and have access to all of the user mods (or even make your own).
I have run Fallout 3 on a six year old Dell PC with only an upgraded video card. IMO getting the PC version even at less spec than the Xbox, would be worth it because of the access to mods.

*That said... Get the same Fallout 3 running on a high end gamer's rig, and you get to play in HD, with any mods you wish. oo: