what do you mean by "working"? ^^

I always expect my games to run constantly at 60 fps

I'd rather play a game on medium and 60, than having 45 fps on ultra

and that's simply not possible for me in Witcher :/

I can run it 'just fine' on ~40-50 fps but that's not enough for me and it should work way better on lower settings

but there are simply no options to limit the tesselated water, the tesselated clothing and other features that slow down older cards

I really hope that Witcher 3 was the only case, where Nvidia's Gameworks ruined the game for me

things like GTA V, the new Battlefront and all other games did run pretty good so far ^^

I just hope that Bethesda doesn't commit too much to Nvidia's Marketing strategy and makes the game work great for every type of card ^^ AMD, Nvidia Maxwell, Nvidia Kepler a.s.o.

yeah :/

I remember being able to max out games easily ten years ago with graphic cards that did cost 150-200 $/€

now you have to pay 500+ to be able to get all the settings

even the 'already not high-end anymore' cards like the 970 cost above 300 $/€ and I just don't feel like it's worth it, when the cards become 'old' in 1-2 years

my gtx770 is still worth ~200 and feels already outdated for many games :/

it's not even like we've seen too much graphical improvement in the last few years ^^ they just up the requirements for games higher and higher all the time, without actually making games look better

I'm not confused on the meaning of sabotage and I also never claimed it. You however injected that word specifically to have a hipster argumentative talking point. Sabotage or not in regards to the TW3, it still took a helluva performance hit. AMD cries foul because it is too much of coincidence that AMD gpu's take massive performance hits from the majority of games using GWL, they also cry foul because once a developer is locked in with nvidia's GWL, they are locked out. There is no amount of spin you can put on this that makes it ok.

I give up, this is probably going to be my last comment.

The PC version of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt's GameWorks HairWorks WORKS on AMD hardware.

Nvidia is making a unified solution with FLeX which will unify PhysX and the GameWorks libraries to WORK on AMD hardware.

AMD takes a massive performance hit on a middleware feature designed by Nvidia for Nvidia GPUs and you think that is a foul? It ISN'T a coincidence. Gameworks was designed to run best on Nvidia cards. This would be like Microsoft [censored]ing to Apple because the newest versions of Safari don't run well on Windows 8 PCs.

I think the difference between the two of us is that you believe all the GPU features developed by anyone should be equally compatible on all brands and GPUs with no performance differences for similarly powered cards, and I think Nvidia has every right to make sure their own software runs the best on their own hardware. But Nvidia DOES work to make sure gamers can run their Gameworks libraries on AMD cards - but it isn't their fault it doesn't run exactly the same, because the hardware and software design synergy isn't there.

Maybe AMD should stop going open-source, make some killer middleware, and make sure it runs best on AMD cards. As it stands, consumers are faced with this logic sequence:

1) Most games run fine on either AMD or Nvidia GPUs.

2) Most games optimized for AMD run great on Nvidia GPUs.

3) Games optimized for Nvidia can run poorly on AMD GPUs. (Not all the time, but sometimes. It rarely happens in reverse.)

4) If I want the optimal number of games to run great on PC I should choose Nvidia. It is the safer choice.

That's not evening factoring in the extreme power inefficiency of AMD cards that they can never seem to fix, and the delayed driver support. I can wait 2 weeks for AMD to release a game optimized driver, or get one at game launch from Nvidia. Gee. I wonder why Nvidia has 80% market share on desktop GPUs right now?

I'm just sick of people claiming Nvidia is sabotaging AMD because they refuse to share their playbook. Maybe Pepsi should accuse Coke of unfair business practices because Coke won't share their recipe?

You clearly have not been paying attention to what I've been saying, no surprise judging from your post. So rather than trying to divert the topic into an argument no one is making, try reading.

Yeah... working together. Tell me why then does Nvidia's framework drop your framerate faster than a gang banger dropping a fool for AMD GPUs. I really HATE it when companies resort to Nvidia's BS.

OOOH Nvidia's flashy GPU particles and physics! Does it improve the gameplay? No? Don't bother with it because someone is getting screwed in the end.
OOOOH Nvidia's hair! TressFX works better than that stupid thing. Made by AMD, and works just as good if not better on Nvidia! And it's open source!
Ooooh Nvidia's wave work! Excuse me while I bash my brains out on a rock!

I love Nvidia Game works and very much look forward to the refinement in the VR department. Hey its survival of the fittest you either get on board and enjoy the advancements or you come on these forums and endlessly [censored] about something that you can fix by Going the Nvidia route. Or better yet if you can not handle this go Console and not worry about any of it except being left out because of weak hardware. Nvidia is not sabotaging anything they are advancing tech that has sat and done nothing due to weak consoles and developers who only care about making the $$$ off of the mass amounts they can sell to the console crowd. I hope Fallout 4 is exactly like Witcher 3, My 980 Sli actually has a purpose and its amazing looking with the additional tech.

Actually, the main reason for the stagnation of the development of CPUs is a matter of, well matter. You see the reason cpu tech has yet to exceed 5 ghrtz on an affordable processor is because there is a heat threshhold created by the transfer of electrons. Only the fabled affordable room temperture super conducting metal can push the current tech any farther and unfortunatly it doesn't exist.

The next big step forward for CPUs will be when light replaces electrons and eliminates the heat threshold. Until this happens all current tech is racing towards a wall.

That's the big picture. The small picture is that AMD couldn't put up a fight with Intel for nearly a decade now. That's why the Intel CPU I bought 4 years ago is still getting near-top benchmarks. This is my 7th PC IIRC and this is the first time that I can't see it worth the cost to buy a new PC after so long. The same clock speed boundaries are also present for GPUs but there were many innovations to sidestep that to gain more performance. But we just got into 3:1 ratio in GPU market as well and it's likely to stagnate in the same way.