If the Daedra aren't evil, then WTH are they ? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:05 pm

What's this nonsense about subjectivity? Have you ever seen the spirits?

Azura is the goodest.

Hermaeus Mora is the evilest.

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» Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:04 am

Good and Evil are matters of perspective, what one views as evil, another may view as good. They're subjective terms.

Read up: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Aedra_and_Daedra

This. This and a thousand times this. Evil is a point of view.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:02 pm

Yeah, and by my point of view Mehrunes Dagon and Molag Bal e.g are evil, one want destruction and the other domination and slavery of the mortals.. for me this is evil.. '.'

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:55 am

Yeah, and by my point of view Mehrunes Dagon and Molag Bal e.g are evil, one want destruction and the other domination and slavery of the mortals.. for me this is evil.. '.'

Because destruction and domination and slavery are considered oppressive by the weaker individual, therefore evil is simply a label used by those who feel threatened. My point of view, there is no evil.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:03 pm

Because destruction and domination and slavery are considered oppressive by the weaker individual, therefore evil is simply a label used by those who feel threatened. My point of view, there is no evil.

Molag Bal wants domination and slavery above the Mortals, the people of Tamriel. You are part of the people of tamriel !

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:52 am

I've never bought the Azura is "good" BS
She's just not blood-thirsty.
Still wouldn't trust her...

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:06 am

I kinda think that Sheogorath is a funny crazy son of a [censored].. lol

Spoiler

In his quest, i lol'ed sometimes, he talks so much [censored].. it's funny as hell.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:22 pm

This brings up an interesting point which I have taken notice of with Skyrim: How does anyone even know the Aedra, the Divines, even exist?

I should have seen it in Morrowind, with all it's sub-text about religion in real life through the Tribunal. You eventually come to find that these "Gods," the Tribunal, are not really Gods at all; just extremely powerful mortals. One of which was dead, but no one knows about it. The Divines may be something akin to that. Perhaps they still exist, but perhaps they are long since dead. After all, only the Daedra are immortal. The Aedra are not; which is why they believe in stasis and permanency.

Well According to "A Children's Annaud the Aedra are capable of both good and evil.

To R3sistance, who is to say Akatosh didn't just come from Sovngarde?

You are only Dovahkiin because Akatosh gave you his blessing when Alduin came back. He couldn't exactly do this if he was dead.

Or is that just what people believe?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:41 pm

By the way.

Sovngarde is the realm of the dead. But who made this realm ? Akatosh ? Arkay ?

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:40 am

I'm not too sure what Sovngarde is yet. Is it a vision of the dreamsleeve? Or is it a realm unto its own? Either way, I'd suppose you'd say that the culprit is Shor, God of the Underworld. If you go back to Sovngarde in game, you can find his throne there.

» Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:23 pm

I thought like that, and that why i'm confused..

Because from what i've always believed was that

Aedras = Zeus, Poseidon, Athena, etc etc..

Daedras = Hades, and other bad gods.. lol