I always thought that the Divines (Aedra) were the good guys and the Daedra were the evil ones.. but i just figured out that Azura and Meridia spreads good things, such as life, light.. etc..

So i'm really confused now, can someone explain it to me ?

What's the diference between Aedra and Daedra, why Meridia and Azura aren't considered Aedras since they are good.. etc.. etc..

They are immortals. Truly immortal. They can not ever be killed; merely banished from Mundus. They can't even die in Oblivion.

Because they lack mortality, they have different morals. Most are completely indifferent to mortals. Some are more benevolent.

In terms of real-world counter-parts, or in this case ideas, they are very similar to demons in Japanese culture.

Good and Evil are matters of perspective, what one views as evil, another may view as good. They're subjective terms.

Read up: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Aedra_and_Daedra

This probably belongs in the lore board, but lemme try:

The difference between the Aedra and the Daedra is that they come from different places and are different kinds of beings. The difference between them isn't that one type is always good and the other type is always bad.

The Daedra represent change and the Aedra represent stasis. The Daedra interfere directly in the affairs of mortals, and the Aedra are off somewhere far, far away, only indirectly influencing things.

The Daedra reside in their own personal plane of Oblivion and the Aedra... well, where do the Aedra live? I'm not sure if anyone even knows anything definitive about the Aedra.


Most Daedra do things that mortals consider "evil," but as you saw Meridia and Azura seem to be exceptions. Religious mortals strongly believe the Aedra are all good and holy, but... is there anything to really prove this?

This will explain:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Monomyth

It's similar to real life. There's no absolute compass for "good" or "evil" with regards to morality.

One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

sheogorath isnt evil, he's madly awesome

think of them as greek gods, u had "good" gods, "bad" gods n ones that did both deeds

Aedra and Daedra aren't divided by morals. Aedra are just bound to Nirn, Daedra merely take an interest in Nirn.

I thought like that, and that why i'm confused..

Because from what i've always believed was that

Aedras = Zeus, Poseidon, Athena, etc etc..

Daedras = Hades, and other bad gods.. lol

Zeus raqes women and commits his fair share of cruel deeds.

I think a better comparison would be the Titans to the Gods. Two divisions of higher beings, but the gods (daedra) interact directly with mortals and the titans(aedra) act indirectly.

Something else to note: if Anu and Padomay are beings, and not just forces, they are the true gods...the Aedra and Daedra and all life are their subjects.

From the Monomyth, Altmeri view: "Auriel (Akatosh) pleaded with Anu to take them back..."

Lol..

TES Lore is a pain in the head... :banghead:

Daedric princes can be good or bad, or crazy, or etc..

And the Divines, all of them are good ??



Why the people of Tamriel keeps saying that the Daedric Princes are evil and the Divines are the good ones... if Azura and Meridia ain't bad, etc etc..

Aedra and Daedra are essentially the same, however Aedra have invested some portion of their power in the creation of Mundas/Nirn whereas Daedra have not. Because of this Aedra are generally weaker then their Daedra cousins but they also act as a barrier limiting the amount of influence the Daedra have in Nirn.

There are a couple of gods that are not Aedra or Deadra:
- notably Anu and Padomay (A.K.A Sithis) are neither, They are not so much spirits/plane gods like the Aedra/Deadra as they are personifications of forces even stronger then the Aedra and the Deadra. Possibly strong enough that they could kill any deadra or aedra that would dare enter their domains.
- Mortals who have become gods are neither (Talos, Tribune, Mannimarco/God of Worms*, the 2nd Sheogorath and a few others)

When you get into it, essentially Anu and Padomay created the universe as it is. The Deadra and Aedra are spirits that achieved godhood and then went on to form planes/planets of their own. Mortals are likely the descendants of Aedra who invested too much power in the creation of Nirn and lost their divinity and so knew they had to reproduce or die out entirely. Lorkhan himself invested ALL of his power in the creation of Nirn and died.

Also the 8 divines are not the only Aedra, Magnus maybe considered an Aedra but he withdrew from the process of creation of Nirn and during this he ripped a hole in the fabric of space between Oblivion and Aetherius creating the Sun, also called Magnus. Mortals are able to use Magnus' power in the form of magic.

*not to be confused with the King of Worms in Oblivion, they were originally one in the same but were split into two different beings when Mannimacro(god of worms) achieved godhood

Did you not ask this exact same question a few hours ago and get four pages of people explaining this to you? I guess I'll just copy/paste my post from your other thread...

Daedra are not evil. Literally, it says in game somewhere, that Aedra was a word for "Our Ancestors" by one of the early races, while Daedra means "Not Our Ancestors". It doesn't denote that they're evil, because they're not. They are embodiments of concepts and ideals, just like the Aedra.

Mehrunes Dagon is the daedric prince typically associated with evil, but this is not necessarily so. He is the prince of destruction. It's what he does. However, nothing in Oblivion can truly be destroyed, it will just come back forever and ever. For him to fulfill his role and purpose for existing, he must reach our world in order to permenately destroy things. This is why he continually tries to invade and destroy our world, and this is why he is often seen as evil. The rest of the Daedra are purely ambiguous, often even good. Many Daedric princes represent something considered taboo or evil by many cultures, but at the same time represent good things. Take Peryite for instance. He is the patron of disease and corruption. However, he truly only uses these powers as a means of 'cleansing'. Stuff like this is rather common with daedric princes.

None of the Gods are truly good. Zeus and Poseidon both have [censored] women in mythology. A lot of the gods seem quite bad for our morality. But if they're like the Aedra/Daedra I guess they have different morals.

Bored and indifferent to your feelings. That's worse than evil when you are that powerful.

They are indifferent. Like true gods. Hint-hint.

Yes i made a Thread a while ago, but everyone that tried to help me ended up confusing me, because when you learn something you get twice as many doubts.. So i had one doubt about Aedra and Daedra, people answered, then because i learned something new, i got twice as many doubts.. Everything you learn, you get more doubts..



I can't understand because it doesn't make sense, so the people of Tamriel hates the Daedras just because they are not their ancestors ?? please don't troll me,

it all depends on the daedric lord the daedra are bound to serve for instance mehruhnes dagon is very hostile towards mortals. and sheogorath depending upon his mood can be very cruel. but mostly the daedra that attack and kill people or destroy cities are usually bound into service with mehruhnes dagon the prince of destruction.

The distinction between Aedra and Daedra is not whether they are good or evil, with Aedra being good and Daedra being evil - you need to drop the idea of "Angels vs. Demons" because it has no relevance to Nirn whatsoever, that moral ideal is something you're pinning onto Nirn from your own philosophy and has little relevance in the game setting.

Only in the myths, theres a differance between ancient greek religion and ancient greek mythology.

So ? Explain for me the diferences.. :S

Thanks alot.

But then why the people of tamriel hate so much the Daedric princes such as Azura and Meridia ? They are good, they sperad light, life, etc...

They are immortal beings from another dimension.

Sometimes creatures in Tamriel summon and bind them into service like a toy plaything.

They do not give a [censored] about mortals except when it comes to mortals interfering in their lives, where they can be very spiteful.

Dagon wanted to reclaim Tamriel but svcks to be him.