The Dead Is Dead Thread #9

Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:45 am

Yeah. I always play DID in real life, and it's a [censored].

As for why DID? It basically boils down to this:
If you want the most immersive experience you can get in this game, nothing beats the added tension created by knowing that one little mistake, one bad decision, one poorly planned act, one instance of bad luck, can end your character. It makes each decision in the game much more important. It forces you to think strategically and tactically. Instead of just floudering into masses of foes, knowing that if such a frontal assault doesn't work out so well, you can just reload and try it a different way, you learn to plan out attacks, use terrain, use your weapons and allies better, sometimes even just walk away. When your character's very life is on the line with each choice you make, it doesn't get more real than that. Like I said, DID in anything is a real [censored].

-Gunny


Sounds like a day at work.




Anyways, I'm thinking a Legion Assassin D.I.D build.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:19 am

This sounds awesome guys, I'm gonna do this when I'm done, I want to start a bad guy charector. Maybe mr house or legion. I'll post here when I do.

how do you guys track all this stuff? Does the game save it?
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:58 am

Well, Samantha just died in the Sierra Madre. Unfortunately, this was due to a glitch were the "your collar is beeping" message didn't show up and the audio didn't play. Since that's the only way the player could know to take evasive action, I'm not sure whether to count that as legit. I probably will, though, as I was planning to cheat and give myself a second shot if I missed the jump in the vault anyway.

Well, it's back to the beginning I go!

-Nukeknockout
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:46 am

This sounds awesome guys, I'm gonna do this when I'm done, I want to start a bad guy charector. Maybe mr house or legion. I'll post here when I do.

how do you guys track all this stuff? Does the game save it?

Well, there's not much to track, really. You play the game in whatever fashion you like, mods, no mods, gimping, no gimping, role-play, no role-play. Whatever. The only thing you really got to track is if you die or not. That's pretty easy to notice. :hubbahubba:

Well, Samantha just died in the Sierra Madre. Unfortunately, this was due to a glitch were the "your collar is beeping" message didn't show up and the audio didn't play. Since that's the only way the player could know to take evasive action, I'm not sure whether to count that as legit. I probably will, though, as I was planning to cheat and give myself a second shot if I missed the jump in the vault anyway.

Well, it's back to the beginning I go!

-Nukeknockout


Nuke, that's a legitimate "Nine Lives" moment. You die by glitch, it's not your fault. Reload 'er if that's what you want to do. I died by the "[censored] explosives don't do any damage in [censored] VATS glitch" on my current character, but I went ahead and reloaded. If the games spazzes on you, there's no reason to penalize yourself or your chracter for it.

I wish I could have played more recently. I had just got done with LR, wanted to go back and do the mile and buy a bunch of GRA guns to do the new challenges before I went to the end battle, but I've been spending so much time with the damage thread/calculator, and I finally got pissed enough about the state of the wiki's weapons pages that I actually signed up and started making sense out of that hornet's nest. And to top it off, today I just started a brand new wiki dedicated to Dead is Dead playthroughs. It's not much yet, as I'm still fleshing out the format, but I've got sections for both FO games and TES III & IV so far. I'll put a link in my sig so ya'll can take a look at it soon. Now I just got to figure out what to take out of my sig to fit it in.

-Gunny
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:27 am

Nuke, that's a legitimate "Nine Lives" moment. You die by glitch, it's not your fault. Reload 'er if that's what you want to do. I died by the "[censored] explosives don't do any damage in [censored] VATS glitch" on my current character, but I went ahead and reloaded. If the games spazzes on you, there's no reason to penalize yourself or your chracter for it.

-Gunny


Well, shoot. When I read that, I celebrated, then I remembered that I uninstalled FOOKNV. So, quick question to anyone knowledgeable: If one uninstalls FOOK mid-game, can they reload that save under Project Nevada? I'm betting it'd cause all sorts of glitches, but Samantha isn't dead, and it wouldn't quite be right not to finish with her.

I'm going to try it. We'll see what goes down.

EDIT: So far, it seems to be working...within the Sierra Madre, at least. There wasn't a whole lot of FOOK-specific stuff in here anyway. Anything could happen if Samantha survives to return to the Mojave, however. I'll keep ya posted.

-Nukeknockout
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:36 am

Hello everyone, I'm starting a new D.I.D Character soon and his name is Eli.

Backstory
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Note:This takes place four before New Vegas. When Eli awoke one day. All he could remember was his first name and his family being murdered by Caesar's Legion Eli knowing his family is dead, Picks up his armor and a note that says "Eli, contact nearest NCR outpost tell them..." the rest of it was covered in blood and unreadable. Eli knowing he has no food and no money sets out to get to the nearest NCR outpost. He sees the Mojave outpost and heads there and becomes a soldier. As no one knows his squad was killed and Eli was going to keep it that way. Eli a couple of weeks later is sent to California. Which he then volunteers to become a Ranger. He passes the test and becomes a Ranger. Eli was 18 at the time. Eli becomes one of the youngest rangers ever. Three years later he is sent to New Vegas. For the next year Eli scouts Caesar's Legion and awaits his next orders. Which becomes to fight the Legion. Eli being one of few that survived Boulder City is once again knocked out. When he wakes up his NCR Ranger armor is gone and he is stuck in the middle of nowhere. Everyone around him is dead and he stumbles out of the ruined city and walks to Novac. He meets Boone and continues with his walk to Mojave outpost. Once he hits Primm he is out of food and needs money to continue to Mojave outpost. On his assignment, which is carry a package to New Vegas he is shot in the head and left for dead. When Eli has forgotten his training and his once again forced to learn his skills again. Eli with his allegiance to NCR once again sets out to save the NCR for the Legion.


S.P.E.C.I.A.L
S. 9
P. 9
E. 5 or 6
C. 1
I. 5
A. 7
L. 6
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:27 am

Well, there's not much to track, really. You play the game in whatever fashion you like, mods, no mods, gimping, no gimping, role-play, no role-play. Whatever. The only thing you really got to track is if you die or not. That's pretty easy to notice. :hubbahubba:



Nuke, that's a legitimate "Nine Lives" moment. You die by glitch, it's not your fault. Reload 'er if that's what you want to do. I died by the "[censored] explosives don't do any damage in [censored] VATS glitch" on my current character, but I went ahead and reloaded. If the games spazzes on you, there's no reason to penalize yourself or your chracter for it.

I wish I could have played more recently. I had just got done with LR, wanted to go back and do the mile and buy a bunch of GRA guns to do the new challenges before I went to the end battle, but I've been spending so much time with the damage thread/calculator, and I finally got pissed enough about the state of the wiki's weapons pages that I actually signed up and started making sense out of that hornet's nest. And to top it off, today I just started a brand new wiki dedicated to Dead is Dead playthroughs. It's not much yet, as I'm still fleshing out the format, but I've got sections for both FO games and TES III & IV so far. I'll put a link in my sig so ya'll can take a look at it soon. Now I just got to figure out what to take out of my sig to fit it in.

-Gunny



Thanks alot 46, but what's a gimping and mod? Is I have a ps3 so I can't edit the game or anything. But if I could, what could I edit? Weapons? Physical appearance? Levels? dialogue? I don't know much about this stuff but from what I hear, making video games has been easier and easier these days.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:25 pm

And to top it off, today I just started a brand new wiki dedicated to Dead is Dead playthroughs. It's not much yet, as I'm still fleshing out the format, but I've got sections for both FO games and TES III & IV so far. I'll put a link in my sig so ya'll can take a look at it soon. Now I just got to figure out what to take out of my sig to fit it in.

-Gunny

I made room in mine...Get you some of that.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:22 am

Well I started my character a couple of days before posting the back story, Photos shall be below. (Reminder, there in terrible quailty.)

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i467/undead152/Fallout%20New%20Vegas%20Playthoughs/Bethesda002-1.jpg

Now this, is a weird thing. I'm playing on Xbox 360, but I've encountered these guys at http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i467/undead152/Fallout%20New%20Vegas%20Playthoughs/Bethesda003-2.jpg
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:19 pm

Well I started my character a couple of days before posting the back story, Photos shall be below. (Reminder, there in terrible quailty.)

http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i467/undead152/Fallout%20New%20Vegas%20Playthoughs/Bethesda002-1.jpg

Now this, is a weird thing. I'm playing on Xbox 360, but I've encountered these guys at http://i1095.photobucket.com/albums/i467/undead152/Fallout%20New%20Vegas%20Playthoughs/Bethesda003-2.jpg


I bet I could guess where that was. That appears to be a "Last Man Standing" competition, at a Nightstalker party.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:09 pm

Sadly, Samuel Bridges was forced into an early DiD retirement as my current save file corrupted (along with the quicksave running parallel to it), the last save from there was about 9 hours of a 15 hour playthrough back and I came to the conclusion I made too many theme compromises already and should just start over.

So, starting again!

Dead is Dead first(ish) attempt ever! Starting at Vault 101, through the Pitt, Point Lookout, Operation : Anchorage, Broken Steel and.. ugh.. Mothership Zeta. Then to Alton, Illinois and then further west into Nevada to wrap it up with New Vegas, Dead Money, Honest Hearts, Old World Blues, and Lonesome Road. And mods.

Wish me luck! Honestly if my Lone Courier can survive Washington D.C., Pittsburgh, Maryland, V.R. Simulations, Outer Space, Illinois, Nevada, California, Zion Valley Utah, Big Mountain, the Sierra Madre and the Divide (and mods) I think I'll cast myself a medal out of a milk bottle top and colorful foil.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:00 pm

I can't imagine a way to make a game more tedious than playing by Dead Is Dead rules. Oh, the Nuzlocke challenge in Pokémon is worse.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:38 am

I enjoy them because I'm something of a perfectionist and even with limited S.P.E.C.I.A.L values and skill points I always seem to be drawn to every skill book, bobble-head, or quest perk that'll take the edge off, and always seem to add up the numbers and advantages that make me into a deadly stormtrooper instead of a wastelander within my first few levels of playing. All of this with the ability to reincarnate indefinitely through quick-saving can make the game kind of dull, but I can't seem to stop myself from not playing efficiently.

At least with dead-is-dead I have to assess every situation rather than roll my rigged die and hope it's not the one side of the die that says "Skull Humped".

It's the same reason I started forcing myself to adhere to certain rules of scavenging, or arsenal acquisition. Nobody FORCES you to do it, so if at any time you decide "man, this is dull after all" then you just stop doing it and go back to normal. There's no mod that when uninstalled will mess up your game, or you only agree with X and Y in it and just have to tolerate the Z aspect it added. You just.. stop doing it if you don't like it.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:52 pm

I can't imagine a way to make a game more tedious than playing by Dead Is Dead rules. Oh, the Nuzlocke challenge in Pokémon is worse.

That's cool. It's not for everyone. There's no great big Dead is Dead gun pointing at anyone's head. As for the implication that it would be tedious, I would rebut that as a general rule, we all play the game in whatever fashion suits our ideal playstyle anyways. Whether we play DID or not, someone who imposes a ton of restrictions or uses a difficulty mod is most likely to do that in their non-DID gameplay also. All playing DID does is create a very visceral sense of immediate reality. When your character experience can be over with the slightest mistake, it makes you pay more attention. It actually makes the game more exciting, not less. But again, if it's not your cup of tea, don't worry. There's lots of tea flavors to choose from.

@ Rooster: mods are user made content that PC users can download or create themselves that can be as simple as texture replacers or minor weapons stats changes all the way up to full on game mechanic reworks or complete questlines. Gimping is the act of self-imposing restrictions on gameplay. Think of it as playing hardcoe, but without the game mechanic there to do it for you. Things like no fast travel, weight limits, weapon limits, armor limits, dumping stats, things like that are all forms of gimping.

-Gunny
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:25 am

Gunny, you gotta give my last character some props man. He beat 3 out of 4 of the DLC's and made it to level 37. Ranger Willard.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:17 pm

Gunny, you gotta give my last character some props man. He beat 3 out of 4 of the DLC's and made it to level 37. Ranger Willard.

My profound apologies. I've really got to update the Hall. This will happen, I promise.

-Gunny
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:52 am

@ Rooster: mods are user made content that PC users can download or create themselves that can be as simple as texture replacers or minor weapons stats changes all the way up to full on game mechanic reworks or complete questlines. Gimping is the act of self-imposing restrictions on gameplay. Think of it as playing hardcoe, but without the game mechanic there to do it for you. Things like no fast travel, weight limits, weapon limits, armor limits, dumping stats, things like that are all forms of gimping.

-Gunny

And some crazy people, like me, use both. I'm in the process of doing a total overhaul of weapons and armor; the former to make them behave more like their RL counterparts and the latter to be as lore-accurate as the system will let me, which is just as well since the former will make combat even more dangerous than it already is with the mods I already have in place. Some of my self-made restrictions are as follows:

No selling for cash
Strict limits on how many/much weapons/ammo I can carry
Strict limits on healing items
RP-based limitations must be strictly followed, save for when completely impossible
Must sell every time I hit my carry limit

There's a whole bunch more I also use, and all of them, including the above, are actually significantly more detailed in terms of strictness and mechanics. I have tried to mod them in, but the system's limits make that not practical.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:15 pm

What major faction would explosives best fit into? NCR or Independant? I'm interested in making a Goliath of a character (unfortunately no player size customisation :( ) who rolls with Mercy, Esther and the Avenger. Actually, I think I might make that into an Enclave Character.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:26 pm

What major faction would explosives best fit into? NCR or Independant? I'm interested in making a Goliath of a character (unfortunately no player size customisation :( ) who rolls with Mercy, Esther and the Avenger. Actually, I think I might make that into an Enclave Character.


Explosives would be NCR. Indie is really anything.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:16 am

Lost my favorite Legionary ever, Marc Antony, 21/08/2282, at the Long 15 :cold:

Need some remembering if Duke is getting some this guy needs more!
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:57 am

These threads are kinda pointless
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:34 am

These threads are kinda pointless


Your kinda pointless with your post. Anyways I uploaded a video. Audi is out of sinc but its still here. http://youtu.be/y8NtEsa7_g8
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:12 am

These threads are kinda pointless

If you define pointless as having over 1600 posts, over 36,000 views, dozens and dozens of contributors and countless others that read them, then yes. It's kinda pointless. Let me know when one of your threads gets to 9 threads and I'll remind you how they can be pointless.

-gunny
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:54 am

These threads are kinda pointless


Yet, your post serves no purpose. Ironic, no?
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:22 am

What is the exact rules for Dead is Dead?
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