From "The Monomyth", an Altmer apologistic creationism text:

In most cultures, Anuiel is honored for his part of the interplay that creates the world, but Sithis is held in highest esteem because he's the one that causes the reaction. Sithis is thus the Original Creator, an entity who intrinsically causes change without design. Even the hist acknowledge this being.

Damn you, I thought you were someone else.....

Also http://www.imperial-library.info/dfbooks/b055_lightdark.shtml, kinda useful for trying to illustrating how the interplay is the world.

I still think Sithis is what humans (Us, me, you, real life) call oblivion, nothingness. :shrug:

while that would make sense in the essense that Oblivion is -Infinity- and is something Humans can't percieve therefore they see Darkness, nothingness is hardly the word In my opinion oculd be used to describe Oblivion.....but wait....isnt Oblivion both Dagons Realm and another being the Stars, moon and everything in the night sky? bah Elderscrolls can make your head spin ^_^

No Dagons realm is called the Deadlands.
Oblivion is a realm within the foreplay of Anu and Padomay (lulz), correct me if I'm totally of the charts here, my Monomyth is a bit rusty.

Stars is the bodies of the Gods and the Moons are the bodies of Mannimarco.

Nothing is outside. Akel is Sithis. Sithis comes from within. Satak was unstable and unable of holding himself together, so he split into Satak-Akel, the Satakal/Grey Maybe/Nirn.

The two moons are the dead flesh of Lorkhan, but the God of Worms does have a moon which can eclipse Arkay.

No, http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/cosmology.shtml.

So Sithis is not sentient? Then what the hell is talking to me at my shrine to him in Deepscorn hollow?

Lorkhan, the dude that made the gods mortal, lost his heart and has been imprisoned in an Earth Bone cage. More less what the statue depicts.

It's okay to worship him as your Grim Reaper though, he brought death back to the Aurbis, without that there'd be no murder. Hence he's called the Dread Father and with Mephala Mother of Secret murder gave Birth to the Dark Brotherhood. Though frankly said, I doubt it was anything more then a one night stand and she wanted to keep the baby.

It's even okay you got it all messed up. The Dark Brotherhood is just a degenerated spin off from the Morag Tong. I wouldn't expect them to be able to discern the philosophy from the religion.

Some more ramblings in http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/chaos.shtml.

Owh and Gaurds, please arrest this man.

The stars are holes into the Aether, created by the Manga-ge as they fled creation to live out the rest of their existence in stasis. You might be confused by the passage of http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/anuad.shtml that states:



This passage while referring to "the stars" is actually reffering to the Manga-Ge, the gods that created the stars, who are more Anuic then the Aedra (as they were "mucked up" by Shezarr's chaos).



He talks to you? Perhaps you've been touched by Sheogorath my friend.

Or Melphala

Anu and Padomay. Anuiel and Sithis. Auriel/Lorkhan, the Divines, and the Daedra, along with all the spirits and concepts of the TES universe, are but apart of the Godhead's "dream".

Perhaps Sithis and Anu(iel) are both forces and Gods of Gods?

Gods by definition are beings of a higher plane of existance with absolute or near absolute power. If Mephala looks at Sithis as a higher being even higher than herself then perhaps It is just that a higher being. I mean not much more is said about him than he is a Being held in higher regards by the Daedra. So perhaps it is a higher being though being the God of a God look at it's power as more of an inevitable and unstoppable force, absolute. Perhaps merely by existing, physically or metaphysically, Sithis influences reality.

If that is the case then looking at Anu(iel) who is supposed to be the counter balance to Sithis it is as well a Force and an Entity that's very existence affects reality.

Do we know it for sure?..

Ah! Thank you all for enlighten me once more.

Ouch! My Dark Brotherhood character is offended by your comments; however, he cannot argue with your assessment. Now that he is the Listener, he is going to change all that juvenile crap!

better

You can never kill too many people, as long as you get paid. Selling death is better than simply just worshipping it!

What you have to remember is that there are only two ways a new diety can emerge
1. Division
2. The final subgradient.
What you have to remember about division is that every division has an anuic and padomaic axis, regardless of which side the parent favored.

What you end up with is more like this:

								-->Akatosh								|					  -->Magnus-|					  |		 |					  |		 -->Hermaeus Mora		   -->Anuiel--|		   |		  |		 -->Lorkhan		   |		  |		 |	-->ANU-|		  -->Lyg----|	|	  |					|	|	  -->PSJJJJ			-->Jyggalag	|AE--|	|	-->PADHOME

If you want detailed references to support this model, see here: http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=862853

sorry, but that looks wrong :huh:

care to explain how you came about it?

Added a link.

Doesn't seem right still.

1. The interplay of Anu and Padomay created a whole world, not merely two more gods.

2. In this world a multitude of gods sprung up and they divided themselves into two group again.

3. Then a number of gods from both groups joined up and created another world, Mundus.

4. In this world a multitude of mortals sprung up and they divided themselves into many groups.

5. Still waiting for this.

Steps #1 and #3 are the same event on a smaller scale. Just as #2 and #4 where the actual subdivision happens. It's not a nice binary tree, but rather an explosion of smaller segments.

But its not a being, its a force of nature. Being implies self-reflection and identity and neither Sithis nor Anuel nor Anu nor Padomay have those traits. They just are (or are not).

Nothing about that, proweler, is a critique of the chart. It can be extended to a "multitide of gods" easily enough. As for #1 the interplay of ANU and PADHOME is at work in every branch of the graph.