[Natasha Biss]

Is it too late to join this RP? c:

You can join. I'll probably get everyone moving from the King's palace in the next few days (tomorrow or Wednesday), and then everyone else who needs to join can join at the village everyone will be going to first.

Though I may split you guys up. We have quite the number of people.

http://www.imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/gallery_files/cyrodiillargelowrescr7.jpg

You guys need to start thinking about where you want to go. I'll be sending one group to Oakwood (west of Whiterun), and I'll be sending the rest of you to Laintar Dale (Northeast of Whiterun).

[Kelsey Hall]

Is it too late to join this RP? c:

I don't mean to speak for Wooly, but I'm sure he'd say yes.
Can you verify that for me Wooly?

EDIT: Nevermind, you beat me to the punch.

[zoe]

Jeff cracks me up with his posts, even though this is his first RP. :rofl:

It's good to have some seriousness and humor in the same story.

[DAVId Bryant]

Hey, I appreciate that. I'm still not sure if I'm doing it right, or if I'm really any good here.

[Irmacuba]

I am amused by how outright wrong our characters' impressions of each other are.

I'm not sure whether I should update Hawkstar's age to 29 or not... but he's been Dungeon Crawling since he was 16, so he has at least 3 years of kicking ass under his belt. (Legally considered an advlt at 15). Now that his age has been commented on, I'm reluctant to change it to veteran.

[BethanyRhain]

Working late tomorrow, you guys have a good day! : D

[Leonie Connor]

I am amused by how outright wrong our characters' impressions of each other are.

I'm not sure whether I should update Hawkstar's age to 29 or not... but he's been Dungeon Crawling since he was 16, so he has at least 3 years of kicking ass under his belt. (Legally considered an advlt at 15). Now that his age has been commented on, I'm reluctant to change it to veteran.

Ummm 3 years isnt that much..... My char was a hardcoe mercenary for 18 years and he doesnt even claim the level of power your char does.

[Mimi BC]

...And mine's a senior friggin' citizen, who bakes cookies. Just keepin' it real, at least I'm strapped with a rolling pin.

[Kat Ives]

Ummm 3 years isnt that much..... My char was a hardcoe mercenary for 18 years and he doesnt even claim the level of power your char does.

Just because he doesn't claim it doesn't mean he doesn't have it.
Established fact in everyfantasy world: A human learns more in 5 years than an Elf learns in ~30.
It's how they manage to stay on equal power levels in the same stages of their lives.

Humans between the ages of 4-18 learn significantly faster than those of 21+
Also, Davian Hawkstar was raised "The Spartan Way," from a young age to live up to a 250-year-old legacy of kicking ass. Yours seems to have taken a martial route only after he was past adolescence.
Davian Hawkstar's been training since he was 4 years old (Nothing a 4-year-old couldn't learn at that age, but where others are were learning to read and write, or piano lessons, he's been learning martial arts and undergoing strength training). Real education began at 6 (The "Age of Cognition"), learning tactics, further strength training, limited weapon handling (With Sticks) and technique, instead of working in a sweatshop or cussing out people over X-box Live, and continued at an exponential pace from there, as puberty allowed him to become more competant. At 12, he was a squire, learning Real Weapon handling and Martial Arts, augmented by puberty. And he's driven to live up to a family legacy of asskicking.

...I should edit that into his backstory, instead of assuming it implicit.

[Guy Pearce]

Just because he doesn't claim it doesn't mean he doesn't have it.
Established fact in everyfantasy world: A human learns more in 5 years than an Elf learns in ~30.

So your saying all elves are mentally handicapped and are incapable of learning at the same rate as a lesser race (Humans)? Elves in every fantasy world have been known for their knowledge and their enhanced abilities and characteristics.

Yeah ill admit that he does have power, that power being that hes extremely good with a bow and proficient with a blade. But its well earned, he trained with his bow tracking wild game with his father since he was a young child. And then spent 18 years (thats almost your char's entire life) in a mercenary group fighting to the death with other men and mer.

[Rex Help]

Holy crap. :blink:

Established fact in everyfantasy world: A human learns more in 5 years than an Elf learns in ~30.

First time I ever heard this, actually.
And I got into D&D / AD&D from around the 3rd or 4th grade.

[Lynette Wilson]

Guys lay off the 2-3 word posts. If you're going to post something, then make it meaningful. If you spam this thing, Rohugh will take it away, and it will be on my ass. So please, no spammy stuff.

PS: It's not too late to join. If you want to join, message me.

[naana]

This is TES not DnD /brick'd

The only context I've heard about the Elf thing was in concerns with half-elves in DnD given they aged either slower or faster depending on who that raised them elf/human.

But I digress, I am sure my character has some design flaws too. For one he's only 26(think human years) yet he has a job/profession that's highly dangerous. And as far as martial/magical powers go I kinda compensate for his magick skills with his birthsigh given he has to manually increase his magicka pool, which makes him almost religiously reserve his use of magick. But when he does use it, it serves a helpful purpose, or can be really devastating(if he unleashed it all at once) but that may possibly kill him as far as I know.

[Mrs. Patton]

Quit linking TvTropes. Please!

No arguments shall develop. If there is an argument when I wake up, Rohugh is casting you all into the dark, fiery, bottomless abyss called hell. Goodnight.

[JD bernal]

I just thought that his statement about elves is complete BS, that would mean my almost 60 year old char has the skills of a 10 year old human.....yeah doesn't add up. Elves and humans will learn at the same rate, and elf child can learn how to swing a sword just as quickly as a human child. Neither race has an advantage except that the elves can accumulate an immense amount of knowledge and skill over their extended lives.

(Sorry Wooly, thats the last thing I'll post on the subject as I am removing myself from the discussion thread unless its to talk about something important.)

[Shiarra Curtis]

So your saying all elves are mentally handicapped and are incapable of learning at the same rate as a lesser race (Humans)? Elves in every fantasy world have been known for their knowledge and their enhanced abilities and characteristics.

Yeah ill admit that he does have power, that power being that hes extremely good with a bow and proficient with a blade. But its well earned, he trained with his bow tracking wild game with his father since he was a young child. And then spent 18 years (thats almost your char's entire life) in a mercenary group fighting to the death with other men and mer.

Humans, a lesser race? Excuse me!? Which race did the Dragons once serve? Who sits on the throne in White Gold Tower? Humans are the Strongest and toughest(Nords), Most socially cunning(Imperial), second-most magically competant(Bretons), and all around most badass(Redguard) races in Tamriel. I think you need to re-assess your definition of "Lesser".

It's not as much elves being mentally handicapped as much as humans being Frighteningly Adaptable, swift-learning, and unpredictable. Compared to humans, elves are incredibly lazy due to living such long lives. Possibly because they spend more time gloating about their superiority and faffing about with their ancient traditions instead of waking up and realizing their ancient empires are just subsidies of a Greater Empire ruled by a race that lives 1/10th their lifespan, and getting curbstomped any time they try to do something about it.

He's been fighting to death with mer and men. Hawkstar's been fighting to death with Minotaurs, Centaur, Undead, Vampires, Werewolves, Wereboars, Ogres, Giants, Imps, Daedra and Harpies for 3 years. Big power level discrepancy in foes.

The elf that studies the Sword for 25 years will look like a rookie compared to the Redguard that studies for 5.

Proof of Humanity's Superiority: Who won, the young Pelinal Whitestrake(Greatest Human Warrior) vs. the Venerable Umaril the Unfeathered(Greatest Elven Warrior OF ALL TIME!)

[Jarrett Willis]

Humans, a lesser race? Excuse me!? Which race did the Dragons once serve? Who sits on the throne in White Gold Tower? Humans are the Strongest and toughest(Nords), Most socially cunning(Imperial), second-most magically competant(Bretons), and all around most badass(Redguard) races in Tamriel. I think you need to re-assess your definition of "Lesser".

It's not as much elves being mentally handicapped as much as humans being Frighteningly Adaptable, swift-learning, and unpredictable. Compared to humans, elves are incredibly lazy due to living such long lives. Possibly because they spend more time gloating about their superiority and faffing about with their ancient traditions instead of waking up and realizing their ancient empires are just subsidies of a Greater Empire ruled by a race that lives 1/10th their lifespan, and getting curbstomped any time they try to do something about it.

He's been fighting to death with mer and men. Hawkstar's been fighting to death with Minotaurs, Centaur, Undead, Vampires, Werewolves, Wereboars, Ogres, Giants, Imps, Daedra and Harpies for 3 years. Big power level discrepancy in foes.

The elf that studies the Sword for 25 years will look like a rookie compared to the Redguard that studies for 5.

Right now the Elves are kicking the Empire's ass. Race doesn't matter all that much. Age does. Quit arguing about this crap.

An elf that studies the sword for 25 years will be the same as a Raga who studies the sword for 25 years. Sadly, most Elves that live longer than humans do so because of their Magicka pool. If you get an elf who is just a warrior, he won't live too much longer than your average human.

And Hawkstar hasn't fought a dragon. We will see how he likes that. Quit arguing.

[e.Double]

Right now the Elves are kicking the Empire's ass. Race doesn't matter all that much. Age does. Quit arguing about this crap.

An elf that studies the sword for 25 years will be the same as a Raga who studies the sword for 25 years. Sadly, most Elves that live longer than humans do so because of their Magicka pool. If you get an elf who is just a warrior, he won't live too much longer than your average human.

And Hawkstar hasn't fought a dragon. We will see how he likes that. Quit arguing.

Not being argumentative or undermining your authority, but just stating a fact. Elves, ill use Dunmer in specific, live on normal without magick aid for about 200-300 years depending on their living conditions (a well kept noble will live longer than an ebony miner). However with the aid of magick a Dunmer could go well over 800 years old, for example Divyath Fyr and Mistress Therana who are both well over 1000 years old.

[Jerry Jr. Ortiz]

Right now the Elves are kicking the Empire's ass. Race doesn't matter all that much. Age does. Quit arguing about this crap.

An elf that studies the sword for 25 years will be the same as a Raga who studies the sword for 25 years. Sadly, most Elves that live longer than humans do so because of their Magicka pool. If you get an elf who is just a warrior, he won't live too much longer than your average human.

And Hawkstar hasn't fought a dragon. We will see how he likes that. Quit arguing.

Maybe elves do learn at the same rate as humans in terms of experience. But, as a general rule, Elves live at a much slower pace. Because of their long lifespans, they generally aren't impatient enough to try mastering an art quickly, and use their time to study many diverse interests. So, it generally takes an elf about 50=75 years to get 25 years worth of study into the sword between their other commitments. And my other point: Humans learn much faster between the ages of 4-21 than they do in their later years. And considering the social level, they learn as much through their childhood as an elf learns through his/hers. So, a 25-to-50-year-old human learns as fast as a 25-to-50-year-old elf... but the 16-year-old human is learning much faster than the 16-year-old Elf due to the faster-developing brain.. (Do elves even have a noticable pubascent state of rapid development? A lack of one would certainly explain the males' appearance :tongue: )

[carla]

Maybe elves do learn at the same rate as humans in terms of experience. But, as a general rule, Elves live at a much slower pace. Because of their long lifespans, they generally aren't impatient enough to try mastering an art quickly, and use their time to study many diverse interests. So, it generally takes an elf about 50=75 years to get 25 years worth of study into the sword between their other commitments. And my other point: Humans learn much faster between the ages of 4-21 than they do in their later years. And considering the social level, they learn as much through their childhood as an elf learns through his/hers. So, a 25-to-50-year-old human learns as fast as a 25-to-50-year-old elf... but the 16-year-old human is learning much faster than the 16-year-old Elf due to the faster-developing brain.. (Do elves even have a noticable pubascent state of rapid development? A lack of one would certainly explain the males' appearance :tongue: )

Yes elves mature around the ages 16-24 or somewhere in there. And humans do not have a faster developing brain, the minds of elves are much more sophisticated and complex.

Also, yes it would take some time for an elf to master the art of the blade if he was also mastering every school of magick along with an armor skill which isnt uncommon. However if an elf where to focus on one skill then they learn at the same rate as a human would learn that one skill.

And also like Wooly said, the days of the Human empire are over, the only provinces that are in the empire are the ones that choose to stay there. Any nation could easily secede without hassle and even now skyrim is in a civil war. The elvish nations sit back and watch as Tiber Septim's empire fades to nothing and the nords kill each other. The only human race that I would say is stable and slightly powerful at the moment would be the Raga, and the reason being I dont know very much about them and ive heard of no internal conflict. However in the IB timeline as far as I know in SoS they seceded from the empire.

[Ana Torrecilla Cabeza]

He's been fighting to death with mer and men. Hawkstar's been fighting to death with Minotaurs, Centaur, Undead, Vampires, Werewolves, Wereboars, Ogres, Giants, Imps, Daedra and Harpies for 3 years. Big power level discrepancy in foes.

Senes has been doing that for the past couple centuries. Just sayin'.

[Bek Rideout]

Yes elves mature around the ages 16-24 or somewhere in there. And humans do not have a faster developing brain, the minds of elves are much more sophisticated and complex.

Also, yes it would take some time for an elf to master the art of the blade if he was also mastering every school of magick along with an armor skill which isnt uncommon. However if an elf where to focus on one skill then they learn at the same rate as a human would learn that one skill.

The Elven mind may be more sophisticated and complex, but it takes longer to get there (Humans do it fast, Elves do it right). I think you're focusing on the wrong skill sets. Those that study the blade don't generally study magic as much as social ettiquite (LOTS of Social Ettiquite), history, and various arts and crafts.

And a mercenary doesn't "Level" as fast as an adventurer, because the former spends most days on the march, setting and breaking camp, waiting for contracts, and possibly getting in a battle once a month on average due to the logistics of handling a large group. On the other hand, an adventurer is just one guy and one to four friends - a group small enough to sleep in taverns, and lacking the morale issues caused by insufficient accomodation - running all over the kingdom every day, fending off sleep deprivation with Potions of Respite, shrugging off injury through Potions of Healing or visits to local temples, and not taking a single sick day. When Davian Hawkstar isn't crashing through priceless historical places, tearing bandit camps to pieces, waking up the dead with his racket(Meaning more undead to kill, or quests to lay ghosts to rest!), and generally raising hell (Meaning more daedra to fight) he's in town asking widows if they need help, hanging out at the Fighter's Guild for official contracts to kick ass (Or collecting maps from retired adventurers for dungeon's they never got around to crawling), visiting his Order's local chapter house for Gallant Quests to undertake, cleaning up after the Mage's guild's experiments gone wrong, and crazy stuff like that. Even on his way to a dungeon or town, he stops by cemetaries and crypts at night for grave-robbing (Or grave-robber killing!), skeleton smashing, Monster Mashing, and Thriller dancing, or making bandits regret trying to waylay him (Or get caught waylaying a hapless traveller)

The profession costs a fortune in gear, scrolls, potions, and Temple and Mage's Guild services, but the costs are recouped by the end Monty Haul. His life is also in constant danger, leading to Positive Feedback in becoming Badass.

Senes has been doing that for the past couple centuries. Just sayin'.

And he's even more Badass than Davian Hawkstar because of it. Or at least should be.


Ooh... this looks like a fun post to reply too:

This is TES not DnD /brick'd

The only context I've heard about the Elf thing was in concerns with half-elves in DnD given they aged either slower or faster depending on who that raised them elf/human.

But I digress, I am sure my character has some design flaws too. For one he's only 26(think human years) yet he has a job/profession that's highly dangerous. And as far as martial/magical powers go I kinda compensate for his magick skills with his birthsigh given he has to manually increase his magicka pool, which makes him almost religiously reserve his use of magick. But when he does use it, it serves a helpful purpose, or can be really devastating(if he unleashed it all at once) but that may possibly kill him as far as I know.

Don't worry. Younger people generally take the more dangerous jobs. It's rare for a person old enough to be established in Society to take up a the various roles of Adventurer. I think Tariq may find he has a greater well of magic than he's lead himself to believe, especially if he's ignorant of all the repercussions of the Atronach birthsign, and believes himself to only have a pool half or a quarter its true size.

[Lizbeth Ruiz]

Would you shut up about it taking Elves longer? There is no evidence in that theory, therefore I will assume that they will grow in skill mastery at the same rate...

Even Humans who have high magicka pools may live to be 150. Most Elves who are trained warriors and who do not have a lot of magicka won't live all too much longer than a human.

Now shut up about. Quit arguing. I don't want to see another post about this crap. Sorry, but I'm right, and you're wrong, at least in my RP, where I am the host. I am deciding what goes, and this is how it is. So drop it. Now.

[Alyesha Neufeld]

I'm waiting for foxxy and Sannes to post before I respond to Tamira and Uglius.

[Amber Hubbard]

Hey Broken Scale, did you want to add anything in before Jeff starts up the conversation between our chars?