The Dragonborn for Presiden...eeer, Emperor! : V

» Sun May 05, 2013 10:17 am

I don't kinow about you guys, but I think Bethesda is underestimating the potential of the Dovahkiin. Imagine the following:

For months/years, Ulfric Stormcloak watched while the Dragonborn grew in both power, skill and popularity - the people loves him. The Stormcloak soldiers respect and admire him. Even the Jarls of all Nine Holds see him as a champion and an ally with whom they can always count. And now, Ulfric is jealous. If he so desires, the Dragon born could easily be appointed the new High King of Skyrim. And that Ulfric will not allow.

After trying to kill the Dragonborn several times in the last days, he was discovered. After confront Ulfric with the evidence of his crimes, the Dragonborn challenged Ulfric to a duel until death. The duel was quick. And the Dragonborn win. Humiliated and fearing for his live, Ulfric tried at the last moment to make a deal with the Dragonborn: he would abdicate the throne and become his most loyal follower.

The Dragonborn accept the deal and, with the unanimous approval of other Jarls, become the new High King of Skyrim.

But the Dragonborn knows that Skyrim will never be free while the Thalmor and the Aldmeri Dominion exist. Now, he must seek allies for the war is sure to come. And what better places to start this search than Hammerfell and High Rock?

And who knows? maybe one day, after all the provincies are in peace once more, and the Thalmor is nothing but a bitter memory, he can become the new Emperor of Tamriel, as did Tiber Septim so many years ago...

Any thoughts? :cool:

» Sun May 05, 2013 5:33 am

No.

» Sun May 05, 2013 3:32 pm

I like the idea of the Dovahkiin being able to become High King/Queen, but I think it should be through conquest not that the people love him and Ulfric starts crapping bricks. I wouldn't however think Beth would be able to do to the story potential justice with their current writers (or current budget for writers/writing). Maybe if they hired some of the Obsidian guys to pen a really interesting questline full of conquest, political intrigue and whatnot.

In any case, it won't be happening unless some fans decide to make a storyline mod.

Edit: Typos, yay.

» Sun May 05, 2013 5:08 am

Nope, there is no reason for the dragonborn to become emperor and you don't have to be a dragonborn to rule an empire.

» Sun May 05, 2013 2:04 pm

Nooooo!!!!

» Sun May 05, 2013 11:54 am

I don't know if I'd like to be Emperor. Maybe it could be good.

» Sun May 05, 2013 5:10 am

We don't even know what kind of person the Dragonborn is.

Good leadership demands more than power alone.

» Sun May 05, 2013 10:30 am

» Sun May 05, 2013 2:36 am

No, my Dovahkiin already killed Ulfric and besides he's more of a lone vanderer who sat sail towards Akavir to search for the Nerevarine (being an altmer he stil has some hundred years left to live).

» Sun May 05, 2013 6:58 am

With great power comes great responsibility. Being an Emperor means being cooped up in a palace most of the time, dealing with the affairs of the realm. I'd rather be out and about harassing bandits and picking snowberries.

» Sun May 05, 2013 9:20 am

» Sun May 05, 2013 4:20 am

Negative!

» Sun May 05, 2013 3:21 pm

we were going to have a problem in Houston if that happend!

» Sun May 05, 2013 1:06 pm

This may come as a total surprise for you, but there's the Imperial side of the civil war in Skyrim as well. A lot of people play the Imperial side. Majority, even, if polls are to be believed. Most people also play as races other than Nord.

Basically if you made it canon that a Nord Stormcloak would become Emperor, you'd be screwing over a lot of people and critically weaken replay value of Skyrim.

» Sun May 05, 2013 5:35 am

I think not.

» Sun May 05, 2013 5:48 pm

Uh, no. Skyrim should be ruled by a Nord. Besides, the Dragonborn did her job and saved the world, let her leave the spotlight now.

» Sun May 05, 2013 5:40 am

wait you mean that psycho vampire lord/listener/nightingale/mora's champion? You really want that guy in charge of anything?

» Sun May 05, 2013 1:36 pm

Skyrim should be ruled by the people who conquer it.

» Sun May 05, 2013 3:02 pm

On the contrary, it could be a bonus. http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/541833502858276775/C2C7012A4A874A3851914876D1FB7DCF2D014B81/

Though the Dragonborn would be wasted on some stupid mortal title dealing with petty mortal problems. His/her place belongs on the battlefield were his skills are needed most.

Exactly. As with any province.

» Sun May 05, 2013 7:58 am

You got me, I secretly support the Stormcloaks.

No, not really. Let me clarify then: Nords should be ruled by a Nord. The High King or Queen may or may not answer to the Cyrodiilic (or any other) emperor, but local affairs should always be in the hands of Nords - or someone of another race who is considered a true son or daughter of Skyrim.

While the Dragonborn follows the ancient Nordic tradition of thu'um and was hailed as hero, she wasn't even born in Skyrim and politics really isn't her thing. She's a warrior, not a ruler.

From Bethesda's point of view though, it could work, but not the way the OP envisioned it. The story would have to stay ambiguous enough to accommodate all possible player choices, including victory of both sides of the Civil War. It can be done, but the final version won't look anything like "brave Dovahkiin slew Tullius, shouted Ulfric Stormcloak into submission and became High King".

» Sun May 05, 2013 1:04 pm

You don't seem to understand the concept of conquest, it doesn't matter what race the leader is or the ruling family is all that matters is that they successfully conquered skyrim and the nords so for example if a Dunmer successfully conquered skyrim with military force or political maneuvering than they have won the right to rule over skyrim and it's inhabitants.

» Sun May 05, 2013 12:55 pm

Suppose the Dragonborn's the emperor. Then what?

» Sun May 05, 2013 5:49 pm

You don't seem to understand that when I say "should", I mean "how I want it to be". :wink:

I know that if Dunmer conquered Skyrim, they'd rule it. But I don't think they should. I don't want them to. Citizens of Skyrim probably wouldn't want it either. Doesn't mean they'd be able to change it though...

» Sun May 05, 2013 1:21 am

You tortured my eyes with your grammar.
My mind with your idea.

My soul with your execution.

» Sun May 05, 2013 9:19 am

In my Kalpa they did, http://i.imgur.com/MeVQBgE.jpg