So.. the dragonborn is from cyrodiil.

Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:50 pm

The Book of the Dragonborn
by Prior http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Books_by_Author#Emelene_Madrine, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Blades, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Weynon_Priory_%28place%29
A treatise on the Dragonborn
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Third_Era#3E_360, Twenty-First of the Reign of His Majesty http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Pelagius_Septim_IV

Many people have heard the term "http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragonborn" - we are of course ruled by the "Dragonborn Emperors" - but the true meaning of the term is not commonly understood. For those of us in the Order of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tiber_Septim, this is a subject near and dear to our hearts, and in this book I will attempt to illuminate the history and significance of those known as Dragonborn down through the ages.

Most scholars agree that the term was first used in connection with the Covenant of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akatosh, when the blessed http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Alessia was given the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Amulet_of_Kings and the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragonfires in the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Temple_of_the_One were first lit. "Akatosh, looking with pity upon the plight of men, drew precious blood from his own heart, and blessed St. Alessia with this blood of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dragons, and made a Covenant that so long as Alessia's generations were true to the dragon blood, Akatosh would endeavor to seal tight the Gates of Oblivion, and to deny the armies of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Daedra and undead to their enemies, the Daedra-loving http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ayleids." Those blessed by Akatosh with "the dragon blood" became known more simply as Dragonborn.

The connection with the rulers of the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Empire was thus there from the beginning - only those of the dragon blood were able to wear the Amulet of Kings and light the Dragonfires. All the legitimate rulers of the Empire have been Dragonborn - the Emperors and Empresses of the first http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Cyrodiil Empire founded by Alessia; http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Reman_Cyrodiil and his heirs; and of course Tiber Septim and his heirs, down to our current Emperor, His Majesty Pelagius Septim IV.

Because of this connection with the Emperors, however, the other significance of the Dragonborn has been obscured and largely forgotten by all but scholars and those of us dedicated to the service of the blessed Talos, Who Was Tiber Septim. Very few realize that being Dragonborn is not a simple matter of heredity - being the blessing of Akatosh Himself, it is beyond our understanding exactly how and why it is bestowed. Those who become Emperor and light the Dragonfires are surely Dragonborn - the proof is in the wearing of the Amulet and the lighting of the Fires. But were they Dragonborn and thus able to do these things - or was the doing the sign of the blessing of Akatosh descending upon them? All that we can say is that it is both, and neither - a divine mystery.

The line of Septims have all been Dragonborn, of course, which is one reason the simplistic notion of it being hereditary has become so commonplace. But we know for certain that the early Cyrodilic rulers were not all related. There is also no evidence that Reman Cyrodiil was descended from Alessia, although there are many legends that would make it so, most of them dating from the time of Reman and likely attempts to legitimize his rule. We know that the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Blades, usually thought of as the Emperor's bodyguards, originated in http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akavir crusaders who invaded http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tamriel for obscure reasons in the late http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:First_Era. They appear to have been searching for a Dragonborn - the events at http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Pale_Pass bear this out - and the Akaviri were the first to proclaim Reman Cyrodiil as Dragonborn. In fact it was the Akaviri who did the most to promote his standing as Emperor (although Reman himself never took that title in his lifetime). And of course there is no known hereditary connection between Tiber Septim and any of the previous Dragonborn rulers of Tamriel.

Whether there can be more than one Dragonborn at any time is another mystery. The Emperors have done their best to dismiss this notion, but of course the Imperial succession itself means that at the very least there are two or more potential Dragonborn at any time: the current ruler and his or her heirs. The history of the Blades also hints at this - although little is known of their activities during the Interregnum between http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Second_Empire and the rise of Tiber Septim, many believe that the Blades continued to search out and guard those they believed were (or might be) Dragonborn during this time.

Lastly, we come to the question of the true meaning of being Dragonborn. The connection with dragons is so obvious that it has almost been forgotten - in these days when dragons are a distant memory, we forget that in the early days being Dragonborn meant having "the dragon blood". Some scholars believe that was meant quite literally, although the exact significance is not known. The Nords tell tales of Dragonborn heroes who were great dragonslayers, able to steal the power of the dragons they killed. Indeed, it is well known that the Akaviri sought out and killed many dragons during their invasion, and there is some evidence that this continued after they became Reman Cyrodiil's Dragonguard (again, the connection to dragons) - the direct predecessor to the Blades of today.

I leave you with what is known as "The Prophecy of the Dragonborn". It often said to originate in an http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Elder_Scroll, although it is sometimes also attributed to the ancient Akaviri. Many have attempted to decipher it, and many have also believed that its omens had been fulfilled and that the advent of the "Last Dragonborn" was at hand. I make no claims as an interpreter of prophecy, but it does suggest that the true significance of Akatosh's gift to mortalkind has yet to be fully understood.

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""When http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Imperial_Simulacrum takes its place at the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Staff_of_Chaos of the world

When the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Anumidium walks and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Warp_in_the_West_%28event%29

When the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tribunal fail and the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Red_Mountain http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Red_Year

When the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Septim_Dynasty http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Oblivion_Crisis, and the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:White_Gold_Tower http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Great_War

When the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Throat_of_the_World lies http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Stormcloak_Rebellion

The http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Alduin wakes, and the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aurbis turns upon the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dovahkiin.""

misrule ~ probable lineage one of a more wicked cousin of a particular ruler.

eight corners ~ he can be from anywhere across Tamriel.

brass tower ~ hidden from prying eyes, a humble beginning.

time is reshaped ~ with Elder Scroll time becomes one. Seamless.

trice-blessed ~ the alpha, the omega & time in itself.

red tower trembles ~ citation.

dragonborn ruler loses his throne.

white tower falls.

snow tower, sundered, kingless, bleeds,

the Elder Scroll pause where the last dov.

from Cyrodiil.

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Kortknee Bell
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:56 am

I just ignore that part.

My Dragonborn was a bandit leader in a now destroyed fort in Skyrim. :P

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Susan Elizabeth
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:49 am

Because that would have been so much better writing? That might work if your character is John McClane. :P

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meg knight
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:16 am

They're just assuming you are.

Walking near the border = "Omg! We've got another one! Get him/her! that'll teach you to explore, hah!"

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Kayleigh Williams
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:42 am

Believe it or not but they don't have an airport with Tamriel air flights so Cyrodiil is the obvious bridging point from very much anywhere in Tamriel.

Other than sea trade (which was the method in Morrowind so a cart is different) then crossing from Cyrodiil is the logical choice.

Saying bad writing over the point of crossing in itself is pointless. How's that bad writing?
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David John Hunter
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:40 pm

This is where we have our 'Monty Python: Life of Brian' moment and an hilarious argument about what the Imperials have ever done for us. :D

Also, I elect that the name of the side opposed to the Empire be renamed; I propose Ulfriccloaks, not Stormcloaks. Some even propose Nordcloaks...

"Cicero says..." :devil:

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Marcin Tomkow
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:10 pm

I'm sorry, but how does any of that point to the Dragonborn being native to Cyrodiil?

Also, I think you're misinterpreting the prophecy.

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brenden casey
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:00 am

When speaking to Galmar you can affirm that you're from Skyrim.

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Stacy Hope
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:13 pm

That can also just mean that you consider Skyrim to be your home, even if you weren't born and/or raised there.

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lucile
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:52 am

That's interesting, I totally forgot about the intro....

I did however make up a story about my character being an imperial with some nord ancestry venturing to Skyrim in order to discover her nord roots.

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мistrєss
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:46 pm

My Nord character was born in High Rock, it's just that she went through Cyrodiil to get in Skyrim.

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alicia hillier
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:14 am

how does any of that talk about the character being from Cyrodiil?

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Jose ordaz
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:26 am

Why don't bethesda actually make a elder scrolls game where they have christmas and it could be a nirn holiday just change the name and say it is the day the dragoborn killed alduin

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Mizz.Jayy
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:52 pm

Except, the thread is about where people think the Dragonborn is from. :D

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Céline Rémy
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:40 am

I know that just putting ideas into the topic

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lexy
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:01 am

We don't like none of those idea-thingies on these forums, y'hear? Good ol' fashioned charge in and don't ask questions later, have no battle plan and if we get slaughtered we get slaughtered, we lived good lives. :D

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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:01 pm

It's actually assumed, just because you were near the border and got caught in all the Civil War bullcrap. You could have just been taking a more adventurous route from Falkreath to Riften.

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Siobhan Thompson
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:57 pm

When High Rock is on Skyrim's border? And not even at all on Cyrodiil's border?

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Monique Cameron
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:28 am

It's not better but atleast he wouldn't say you tried to cross the border. :)
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:05 pm

"You can't go that way." :D

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Annika Marziniak
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:28 am

My character was born in High Rock. She went to live with her aunt for a while in Skingrad before heading north.

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GRAEME
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:24 am

This

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Rach B
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:07 pm

So have we now established that the dragonborn is not from Cyrodiil but just happened to be near the border of it when arrested?
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:07 am

IT is up to the player to decide.

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Wane Peters
 
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Post » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:01 am

Since the original ambush was in southern Eastmarch, you could also be crossing from Morrowind.
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