[Carlos Rojas]

Something to remember: When Vivec stopped the falling moon, it kept its impetus. If the power that holds it up ever stops, it will continue its flight at the speed it was going when he stopped it. Big boom ensues.

I remember that, and I also absolutely love that idea, that the same force is being excerted with magic going the other direction, but all the same even though the only time physics in guaranteed to work our way in TES is when it is specifically shown to, it is a lot smaller than a moon would probably be and has also been hollowed out, so if weight and size still have a say in the force of impact it will be lessened. Add to that the "most likely." It is not neccessarily that big rock falling. it might be, but it also might not be. Hell, we don't even know if it's even still there. How did the city of Vivec fare in the Oblivion Crisis? For all we know, the entire prison was annihilated by the daedric siege machine.

[Valerie Marie]

Kahsajara - I would assume so. Originally Bretons were English-insipired and later French-inspired, now I think we can safely generalize them into Celtic culture and naming conventions entirely.

Oh hell, the only interesting place on the continent, and Keyes has it nuked.

Customary executive decision to avoid retconning in future installments of the series. :nope:

[xx_Jess_xx]

I remember that, and I also absolutely love that idea, that the same force is being excerted with magic going the other direction, but all the same even though the only time physics in guaranteed to work our way in TES is when it is specifically shown to, it is a lot smaller than a moon would probably be and has also been hollowed out, so if weight and size still have a say in the force of impact it will be lessened. Add to that the "most likely." It is not neccessarily that big rock falling. it might be, but it also might not be. Hell, we don't even know if it's even still there. How did the city of Vivec fare in the Oblivion Crisis? For all we know, the entire prison was annihilated by the daedric siege machine.

Hey, because it was mined out, what happens to all that rock when the moon does crash down? Like, say they built a house out of some of the rock that was mined from it. Would the house just shoot into the ground at the same speed the moon is going to?

[Mandi Norton]

Oh hell, the only interesting place on the continent, and Keyes has it nuked.

Did I miss something?

Just don't say it is what I think it is... :nuke: + :shakehead: = :flame: :gun:

[R.I.p MOmmy]

Hey, because it was mined out, what happens to all that rock when the moon does crash down? Like, say they built a house out of some of the rock that was mined from it. Would the house just shoot into the ground at the same speed the moon is going to?

Just pray that said rock wasn't used at all in constructions to the city itself. Actually, I think those statues of Vivec... oo:

[sarah taylor]

What's interesting is that the quote you gave says Morrowind is "shatterlands" -- not just Vvardenfell. I wonder if the damage could be from the Oblivion Crisis, though, instead of a moon falling. Maybe Keyes is just saying that the Daedra ruined the province the way that they sacked Aldruhn?

[kitten maciver]

Read the Barnes and Noble sample... so this city rose out of the sea? Sounds like Maormer to me. Maybe.

And this Sul guy spent 20 years in Oblivion? Did I read that right?

And I have no idea what "Ne Quin-alian" means. Some kind of Khajiit breed?

Either way, this sounds pretty interesting.

[Céline Rémy]

Something to remember: When Vivec stopped the falling moon, it kept its impetus. If the power that holds it up ever stops, it will continue its flight at the speed it was going when he stopped it. Big boom ensues.

New Sheogorath could always stop the moon from falling. Unless it was New Sheogorath's doing in the first place.

[CRuzIta LUVz grlz]

I found B&N's free sample far more interesting than the excerpt initially given. Unless the first excerpt was meant to say basically nothing at all. That's the impression I get. The prologue alone in the free sample provided by B&N potentially reveals a lot, particularly stuff your more hardcoe TES fans might pic up on. :shrug:

Either way, I'm excited for the release. Interested to see how the story plays out and what exactly this floating city-island is all about.

[Schel[Anne]FTL]

Yes, now I think they must have taken the sample down as I cannot find any button anywhere on the page.

[Adriana Lenzo]

Can someone explain to me the significance of Baar Dau crashing?I remember it not being that big in Morrowind to do any significant damage.

[sexy zara]

Can someone explain to me the significance of Baar Dau crashing?I remember it not being that big in Morrowind to do any significant damage.

If it crashed -- and this is pure speculation at this point -- it would presumably have all its original momentum from the time it was in space. You'd probably get tsunamis spreading out from the destroyed Vivec City at the least, and maybe something like nuclear winter as the debris goes into the atmosphere. From the wikipedia entry on Extinction-Level Events:

"Impact events" --
The impact of a sufficiently large asteroid or comet could have caused food chains to collapse both on land and at sea by producing dust and particulate aerosols and thus inhibiting photosynthesis. Impacts on sulfur-rich rocks could have emitted sulfur oxides precipitating as poisonous acid rain, contributing further to the collapse of food chains. Such impacts could also have caused megatsunamis and / or global forest fires.

Most paleontologists now agree that an asteroid did hit the Earth about 65 Ma, but there is an ongoing dispute whether the impact was the sole cause of the extinctions. There is evidence that there was an interval of about 300 ka from the impact to the mass extinction.[33] In 1997, paleontologist Sankar pvssyrjee drew attention to the proposed and much larger 600-km (370 mi) Shiva crater and the possibility of a multiple-impact scenario."
I don't have a scientific background, so others on the forum can speculate on this more accurately than I can.

[Facebook me]

If it crashed -- and this is pure speculation at this point -- it would presumably have all its original momentum from the time it was in space. You'd probably get tsunamis spreading out from the destroyed Vivec City at the least, and maybe something like nuclear winter as the debris goes into the atmosphere. From the wikipedia entry on Extinction-Level Events:
...

Yet you can jump off the Ministry of Truth (with the right Acrobatics level) and land without a scratch.
Remember, every time you drag real-life physics into a made-up setting, god kills a catgirl.

Plus... if Vivec (the one keeping Baar Dau in the sky) had been missing for some time when the events of Oblivion happened... why didn't anyone mention Vvardenfell (let alone Vivec City) being destroyed?

[Jesus Sanchez]

Physics aren't the issue. The force that pushes Baar Dau transcends physics.

Baar Dau is still hanging as it is because the people haven't completely lost faith in the essence of that which is sustaining its immobilization. "Know love to avoid the Landfall."

[Mr. Allen]

Physics aren't the issue. The force that pushes Baar Dau transcends physics.

Baar Dau is still hanging as it is because the people haven't completely lost faith in the essence of that which is sustaining its immobilization. "Know love to avoid the Landfall."

EDIT: That's all well and good, but we have no way of telling if Baar Dau crashing is what turned Morrowind into this "shatterlands"... or even what "shatterlands" means.

And frankly, all these people saying the force of its impact nuked the province... I don't buy it.

[ladyflames]

alright thanks.

[Tinkerbells]

a new threat appears -- a rotting undead wizard who controls the skies
-- Acrcturian Heresy
Just thought it was interesting. The rise of Wulfharth? I realise "controls the skies" refers to "Storm of Kyne", but that would make floating a giant city across Tamriel all the more practical. Could Ysmir really have been behind the new Emperor?

[Samantha Mitchell]

Interesting theory. Certainly more interesting than the Evil City of Doom™ being the result of generic necromancy.

[josie treuberg]

Interesting theory. Certainly more interesting than the Evil City of Doom™ being the result of generic necromancy.

I agree, but the Arctus/Wulfharth plot drama--at least in my opinion--may be too ass-deep into complex Elder Scrolls lore for Greg Keyes to literarily dive into if he wants to appeal to other readers. It would make for a fantastic story, though. Wishful thinking.

[JR Cash]

About the meteor thing, it may be going with the same momentum but it's a lot smaller than an extinction-level asteriod, particularly if it's mined out. But let's all do thew right thing and pretend that [censored] stupid Loveletter never happened and hope for Maomer or something else cool.

[Jaki Birch]

the=at [censored] stupid Loveletter never happened and hope for Maomer or something else cool.

say wat?

[Donatus Uwasomba]

say wat?

Sorry, I'm a lousy typist. I fixed it. How the "=" sign got in there I'll never know.

[Kyra]

Sorry, I'm a lousy typist. I fixed it. How the "=" sign got in there I'll never know.

You're still incorrect

About the meteor thing, it may be going with the same momentum but it's a lot smaller than an extinction-level asteroid, particularly if it's mined out. But let's all do the right thing and pretend that [censored] stupid Loveletter never happened and hope for Maomer or something else cool.

Bolded the misspellings I corrected

[DarkGypsy]

You're still incorrect



Bolded the misspellings I corrected

I am a lousy typist and proofreader it seems. And speller.

[Michelle Serenity Boss]

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=724862

The use of leet speak is difficult to understand for many, and should not be used. In addition, please do not take it upon yourself to be a spelling and grammar cop. With the number of non-English speaking members here, it is to be expected errors will occur. It is fine to be helpful, just please don't be spiteful.