How do you think the Dragonborn would hold up compared to the previous heroes of the Elder Scrolls titles?

I mean, of course the DB would not stand a chance against the CoC (I mean come on, CoC is now a Daedric Prince).

but how do you think he would hold up to the Nerevarine?
The Agent?
The Eternal Champion?

I wouldn't be so sure about the Champion of Cyrodiil, it really depends on what sort of competition is involved. Cheesemaking? Clearly CoC has a massive advantage. Crossword puzzles? Then it's anyone's game.

That gave me a good chuckle


But I do think the Nerevarine would be beyond the Dragonborn's abilities too by now, assuming he's still alive.
Age doesn't harm him after all, so he's had quite some time to power up considerably.
He's also in Akavir, which I believe is a much tougher place than Tamriel, so there's that too. His training would have been intense.

And not to mention there's a strong possibility that he's followed Vivec's Sermons and might have achieved CHIM, like Tiber and Vivec.

This is pure "zomg I love Morrowind so damn much" bias, I'm sure, but I feel like the Nerevarine is the de facto Champion to end all Champions. Sure, the CoC might be Sheogorath but they obviously aren't doing much with it. The Nerevarine however went toe to toe with up to three divine entities, was blessed by a number of the Divines, is ageless, unable to succumb to sickness, went up against the avatar of Hircine, and holy crap so much more.

The others just don't compare. You spent most of Oblivion being Martin's sidekick and the Dragonborn never quite takes the plunge into a high profile "end", punctuated by the fact it seems his/her claim to fame only really seems to be having a lot of Daedra and Divines who can have a claim to his/her soul when they die.

Get that CHIM nonsense outta here. I wouldn't be so quick to throw the Dragonborn under the bus i mean he needs no weapons or magic to fight, only his voice. He can ignite or rip the souls from his enemies simply by speaking. I don't know about you but i would think long and hard before going up against that.

Do you think the Nerevarine could go up against a Daedric Prince then?

He was being a good boy and doing Azura's bidding for the entirety of Morrowind,after all.
He might very well be close to godhood in terms of power by the time Skyrim happens, but so were the Tribunal in the past, and yet Azura still managed to curse them and bring them down eventually.



@Semper
It does exist, though.
But CHIM or not, the Nerevarine still possesses great edge over the Dragonborn, having been alive and training for much longer than the latter.

Not to mention the Nerevarine prophecies mention he is Dragon-Born as well, but that may have just been a way of saying he was born in Cyrodiil.
However, there never really were any dragons around for the Nerevarine to kill and find out whether he really is dragonborn at his time... And Talos "THE" Dragonborn did appear before him once... The only hero he's ever personally interacted with, going as far as giving him an artifact.

If you're going to compare them then it should only be within the confines of each game. It does not matter what they may or may not have done after their respective game events. Take the Nerevarine at his full in-game power, the Champion of Cyrodiil at his full in-game power, and the Dragonborn at his full in-game power and send them to battle. That is a reasonable way to go about it.

I'm with Guard on this one.

Lore is more important then gameplay, because if they made some characters as strong as they are in lore, it would kinda break certain gameplay mechanics, right?

No, If CoC is in fact a Daedric prince then the other two have no chance at all. It's much more fair from a gameplay standpoint.

This would be much easier to debate if the Dragonborn had been given a proper ending like the other heroes.
As far as we know, he's still a mortal.

And if the heroes faced each other's versions in their respective timelines before their endings, yeah, I do think the Dragonborn would win.
But from a lore standpoint? Nevah!

where did i say "give them a chance"?

I clearly said in my OP CoC would beat them all.
wanted to know how others thought the other heroes would hold up against good ole Dovahkiin

Throw in the puzzle box and the Nerevarine has a slight advantage

Personally, I think the big three would be equal in power. Nerevarine and Dovahkiin would make a interesting dual

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Hmmm, I wouldn't say that just because the CoC is now a Daedra Lord shouldn't really be the end-of-it-all. To be fair, the Dragonborn has the soul of a dragon granted from the gods, and the Nerevarine....is, well, the Nerevarine

The Last Dragonborn. Sheogorath wouldn't really want to fight, he'd be more interested in cheese, and the Nerevarine would also be beaten, considering he may be immune to disease, but he's not immune to being shouted to pieces by one of the most powerful types of magic (The Voice) and then being lit on fire by the same magic.

Sheogorath isn't the type of fight.

You see that would not be entertaining to watch. If you take all three characters from their games plus any DLCs you have a more well rounded fight. Yes the Dragonborn has an advantage but it's nowhere close to the advantage the CoC would have as a Daedra.

We never really know enough to have an accurate conclusion to the fates of the previous heroes...

But IMO, they all equal out in the end (hopefully), I mean at least between the last 3 heroes...

The neravarine, started out as a commoner and by the end of the MQ, if what Vivec said could be trusted at all, then with the aid of wraithguard the nerevarine was connected to aetherius thus gaining at least a tiny fragment of divinity. Not to mention being immortal and all. Potentially he's also the most famous god-killer of the series having Dagoth, Almalexia and an aspect of Hircine under his belt. Also judging by the game-world he developed as a character in, he's probably much better at magick then the next heroes.

The CoC, apparently depends on us players individually if he/she did or didn't become Sheogorath, if yes the CoC is potentially the most powerful of them all, and if not, the weakest since he/she remains a mortal with otherwise no special powers.

The Dovahkiin starts out the best out of them all, he/she's special from the start, and doesn't seem to gain any new power by the end of the game except maybe experience and dragon souls, though he did defeat Alduin and Miraak which is saying a lot, so maybe he's more special than most dragonborn. His/Her only lasting weakness is perhaps being mortal, compared to the other two heroes who became immortal.

This can go many ways though. I know the rock floating over Vivec city was thrown by Sheogorath, and stopped by Vivec and kept there so he could get his kicks watching it every morning thinking how awesome he is and how much his people love him for it, but then he wasn't powerful enough to face Dagoth Ur, which the neravarine did and won. And I assume the neravarine wouldn't just get fat on sweetrolls for the rest of his/her immortality. The Dragonborn, I actually think he/she would put to use all that knowledge and souls he/she's absorbing from dragons and maybe become immortal and/or semi-divine.

So in the end maybe they all equal out somehow. though I still think being a daedric prince means insta-win... this is all rather hypothetical...

If Sheogorath tried to kill the DB, Mora would tear him to shreds.

Can Daedra kill other Daedra? I thought they could not be killed in any way, shape, or form.

what could Mora do? they are both Daedric Princes, it would be an even battle. One Daedric Prince can not defeat another, I mean, it took Every Other Daedric princes combined power to Curse Jyggalag with "Madness"

I actually recall it being said that Herma Mora had knowledge on how to actually kill daedra.

Though even with that knowledge, he would be smart enough not to start fighting Sheo even for the soul of the LDB.

nope, Daedric princes can not beat each other, or their combined armies would have just killed Jyggalag

Oh yes, that's right.

Sheogorath, even if it was his predecessor, was ultimately responsible for the destruction of the Nerevarine's beloved Vvanderfell ,after all, he was the one to throw the moon in it's direction in the first place.
How ironic.

Say Sheogorath CoC decides to trick another moon and have it fall at the Dovahkiin in Skyrim, what could be done about it?

And now I see dovahkiin shouting his lungs out saying Fus-Ro-Dah on top of High-Hrothgar towards the meteor, and on the other side Paarthurnax and Oadhviing desperately trying to pull the meteor away with their claws while the graybeards cower behind the dragonborn...

Neloth is heard laughing in the distance...

So, Im guessing everyone thinks the Agent and Eternal champion have no chance?