dunno if this is in your release notes...and I'm assuming it came from FOOK and not MMM, I use XFO too but MMM and FOOK are the newest. But my VAT doesn't freeze up anymore, its very smooth. Also, when explosions go off my game doesn't suddenly freeze up for a few seconds and then start again. I haven't changed anything else except the new updates for MMM and FOOK.

I thought that was really cool

I'm trying to use MMM and FOOK with XFO, and every time I fire the 10mm pistol or the assault rifle I get a big red exclamation point that fades after a few seconds. I'm sure this is for the ejected shells. I've disabled FOOK, fixing the problem, but was wondering if anyone else has had this issue.

Otherwise great work. I'm really looking forward to using this!

Hey linkesauge,
Don't know if this has been reported or not but there are two files that have filenames that are causing the FOMM package manager to go bellyup and cry,
1) Textures\CGC\interface\icons\pipboyimages\weapons\M79.dds (in main files part1)
2) meshes\CGC\projectiles\M79casing.nif (in main files part2)

The first character appears to be 'M' but it's not...in explorer sorted descending alphabetic details view they show up at the bottom of the lists.
Copying duplicates with the 1st character replaced with 'M' doesn't overwrite the original strange files.
Neither irfranview or gimp will read the dds file, but both work with the renamed version.
(Don't know about the nif file, as i don't have anything setup to open them yet)

But I have no idea what this might mean ingame, just that they would appear to be the only things holding up FOOK being packaged as an fomod (that i know of)
ps.
(easiest way to find files of this kind, extract to somewhere and use 'eraser' to delete what you just extracted...any files left are because eraser doesn't like strange chars)

Cheers

Thats a problem with Fallout 3 itself and how it calculates automatic weapon damage.

Ditto this. Are those names intentional? I could possibly add support for them in fomm, but both of the decompression programs I have here that can cope with multi-volume rar archives are blowing up on those two files before I even get as far as trying to make a fomod out of them. :unsure:

Edit2: On closer inspection it seems to be sharpziplib that's causing the problem in fomm, and not fomm itself, so it's not something I can fix. Hopefully they aren't intentional...

Yup, automatic weapons that fire multiple projectiles at once (aka - automatic shotguns) have VERY buggy damage in the pipboy...I assure you they are only doing a fraction of the damage displayed on the pipboy screen

TheDamned

I have the same problem as well.

For those using MMMF3 + FOOK (+ XFO/FWE) a new MMMF3 Beta 4.1 bugfix has been uploaded and, additionally, the Optional Plugins archive has been updated too:

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3211

This includes new versions of the Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK.esp updated from the one in the FOOK 1.27 archive. This should fix the problems with Talons that were reported earlier.

never mind, ninth try worked

First time FOOK user here, I'll give it a try in my new game. However I need to know if I need the Mart's Mutant Mod.esp along with the Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK.esp, or just one of them? I've downloaded the latest Beta 4.1 updates (including the optional files package containing the Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK.esp) from Martigen but it's not entirely clear if I need just one or still need both, my apologies if I missed the obvious. Additionally, is FOOK compatible with Amplified Crippled Effects 2.0b?

Thanks.

You need both esps active (but only one mmm-fook esp). Mod should be ok with ACE2.ob

Hey Lyrondor -- how's the combat behaviours coming along?

If you use MMMF3, you always need the .esm and .esp selected. See the MMMF3 docs for a suggested load order for MMMF3 files and then, when using with fook, do all FOOK files -> all MMMF3 files.

Thanks, much appreciated.

As for the combat behaviors I'm putting it on hold for the moment. After a lot of testing (I do mean a lot of it) I've simply come to the conclusion that combat behaviors in Fallout 3 have a much lesser impact on the overall NPCs and Creatures than it did in Oblivion, so I need to make very specific but a little more linear and predictable changes for the effects to be substantial enough to make some difference. As of now I'm still trying to find out what changes I can implement. It was already tough to make a difference for my Paladin Cross mod, and it was about the best I could get from what Fallout 3 allows me to do.

I've noticed a bug from the latest patch where the new ammo types were added. Some enemies are equipped with new guns, but not new ammo for it...so they pretty much just stand there with empty guns like idiots or charge at me unarmed...

edit: And once again, I should've seen the readme sorry

Edit: Issue with the Balance changes.esp solved.

v1.28b fixes that as well as the wrong ammo entries for some NPC weapons

hows that BFG cannon coming along? Have you gotten a model/texture for it yet?

TheDamned

sadly not, 3d modeler that have nothing to do are a very rare species.

I'm guessing its 1.28c and not 1.28b judging from your comment on nexus

ya, did another small update because as stupid as i am i forgot to update the muties in v1.28b.

I hope that all issues with NPC's not having Armor/Weapons are gone now.

Thanks linkesauge! Just downloaded and will check it out in a few alongside Martigen's update with MMM. Thanks Martigen for the update and heads up on it.

Heh...I know what you mean...well should you get one, my offer still stands to do a texture for it

TheDamned

Okay, first time FOOK user here with a question about the current installation procedure.

I am supposed to unzip the four packages in the following order, right?
Main Files 1
Main Files 2
Patch Files
Latest ESPs

I unzip all these to my Data Folder, then enable them in FOMM?


Also, I'm using XFO and MMMF3. It's my understanding that I load FOOk first, then XFO, then MMM. And that I should use the MMM - XFO & FOOK esp that was provided by the FOOK author. God this is confusing...


EDIT: Yay! I got it to work! I did exactly the above things and it all works well. Thanks for improving my wasteland experience!

You should try to clarify the installation instructions to reflect the recent uploads and patches. There's a ton of info to sort thru for a new user.

Anyone else missing minigun backpacks in these last few versions? I sure am.
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/135/screenshot6v.jpg

Between this and mmmf3 the game has become very unstable recently.

Yes I just noticed the same thing in my last play session and like you said I have also noticed the game more unstable with crashes in certain areas even if I turn off MMMF3 and leave F.O.O.K. active. Last ctd was by the highway near grey ditch where I got to a certain area (near the abandoned diner with one raider outside) in the highway where its curving up and it crashes. I went around the area from a different direction and I was able to avoid the crash maybe theres just too much rubble clutter from the highway in that spot.