the Forbear and the Crown of Redguard

Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:02 pm

Okay, first off, I am talking about pre-rebellion ingame. I'm actually speaking in terms of the Cyrus Comic book, where the Forbear are wanting to secede and the Crown are not. The Forbear wish to secede from the Empire, right? For fear that they are soon going to attack? The Forbear believe a rebellion is the only want to stop the Empire?

And for the Crown, they don't belive in secession, right? So that is why they were odds with one another?
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JD bernal
 
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Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:19 pm

In 2E 862, High King Thassad II was resisting Imperial invasion. He eventually dies, thrusting the Crowns, who wanted to continue to resist Imperial rule and keep things the same, and the Forebears, who wanted to accept Imperial rule, into civil war. The Crowns are lead by Prince A'tor, heir to Thassad. They continue to win over the Forebears and Imperials, but Dram, a famous Dunmer assassin, picks him off at the island of Stros M'Kai. Lord Richton, the man who beat A'tor at the battle, is then made ruler over Hammerfell, as appointed by Tiber Septim.

In 2E 864, Cyrus the Restless, a Redguard mercenary, and a group called the Restless League incite insurrection in the province; they defeat the Imperial fleet there and repel the ground forces, and Cyrus eventually confronts Lord Richton on a Dwemer Dirigible. Richton cheats and beats him, but the weapon Cyrus is weilding, the Soulsword of A'tor, gains a will of its own and defeats Richton, forcing Tiber Septim to sue for peace in the province.

On a side note, the events involving Cyrus, http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/viveccyrus.shtml, make him an incarnation of the HoonDing, the god that "makes the way" for the Redguard people.

edit: I screwed a date up.
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Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:18 pm

*SNIP*

I know all that, I'm talking about the Redguard Comic Book, the events that happened before the actual Redguard game.

EDIT: I've read the comic more than three times myself, but I wanted to make sure I am going in the right direction with something I'm writing...
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Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:42 pm

Well, unless the timeline is wrong...I think I answered your question: the Forebears want Imperial rule and the Crowns don't. The info I stated, I'm confident, is actually before the game...during events in the comic book...

The game is about him trying to get his sister's soul back, if I remember correctly
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Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:08 am

Alrighty then, I guess I misunderstood what you were trying to say. Thanks, man.

EDIT: Wait, nevermind, no offence but I think you're wrong. The Forbear actually wanted to rebel against the Imperials because the Empire didn't give them power even after they won the province.
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Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:34 pm

Its possible that after feeling cheated by the Empire the Forebears would want better terms, but politically speaking, the Forebears supported imperial annexation whereas the Crowns never, and still don't. Hammerfell despite being portrayed as one land, is in fact a series of kingdoms with their own agendas and territories.

I believe that the 'Restless League' may have been made up of Forebears, but that does not mean that all Forebears support the idea of being part of the Empire.
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Post » Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:43 pm

Yes, you two were right. Sorry, I had my stuff mixed up...
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