That's what the Auto-Attempt button is for. Bases your ability to open the lock on character skill, and takes player skill out of the equation. No need for the SK, just make sure to work with your Security skill and buy lots of lock picks.


That would imply your character willingly giving it up. Giving it to Martin would only make sense when A) you're ready to do that quest, and B) you don't have any other artifacts that you care about less.


Seems rather weasely, more like an excuse than a good reason. Thieves and Nocturnal tend to go hand-in-hand (she even lets the Thieves Guild keep the Gray Cowl after Dareloth managed to steal it from her).


That's really the only explanation that would make sense, though it presumes the character is more interested in the lock itself than what's behind it. Or that they're just masochistic/prideful about it.


Not at all. If I can come up with a good reason, that makes sense and is not BATW, then I have no issue whatsoever with ignoring it. My issue is just with items that need to be ignored (otherwise they could break gameplay), and the only way to do that would be to break roleplay. If you can come up with a reason to get rid of it without honestly breaking roleplay, then that's great. That's how it should work. But if you can't, you're just cheating yourself, and I don't like cheating myself when I dont intend to.

Skyrim info should blow up at E3.

lol dragon. you and i both know this is not true..

The main problem with that argument is that it's intended for you to use it. It's not like it's a glitch, that's its intended purpose.

Having the self-control to not use it is not the point. I don't imagine many people would have a problem dropping it in a respawning container if it came down to it. The point is that it's a built-in cheat that makes Security useless. A character interested in picking locks would inevitably be interested in using the Skeleton Key, and that's where the problem comes in... that the game guides you towards this path, and the way to avoid breaking gameplay is to break role-play. Considering this is a role-playing game, being forced to break role-play is a problem, and in this particular case it could've been avoided.

I hated the lock picking mini-game in OB. The first mod I ever made for myself was dropping a skeleton key outside the sewer entrance. :shrug: I would have never picked a lock without it.

Haha, yea I know. Thought i'd change it up since I've said "closed booth" and "by appointment only" so many times. Oh look, I did it again!

I hated the lock picking mini-game in OB. The first mod I ever made for myself was dropping a skeleton key outside the sewer entrance. :shrug: I would have never picked a lock without it.

well i loved the mini game from oblivion.

Huleed, I personally would never play a quest line like the Dark Brotherhood. My character has zero murders. Does that mean I should advocate the removal of such brutal quests from Skyrim? Of course not. To me, who avoids a sizable chunk of games if it's not to my tastes, this argument of a skeleton key tempting you or your character is nothing in comparison, in my opinion.

Except for people like me who do not like mini games that rely on player skill rather than character, because they lack the neccesary physical aptitude.
I needed the skeleton key.

Couldnt you have given it to Martin or have displayed it in your house?
Couldnt you have roleplayed your character had a dislike of that particular Daedra and only did the quest so he could hide the key where it wouldnt be found for a long time?
Or that you were someone very interested in lockmaking and its intricacies and preferred the more natural 'feel' of a fragile lockpick because it gave you greater insight in the mechanics of a lock? (It did, without the key you levelled security faster.)

Its not breaking roleplay at all.
You assume that an item given is an item you cant ignore, I call that poor roleplaying.

Facebook integration for Skyrim is a bad idea IMO, it should be removed from the final build.
The other news like the 3d map is awasome !

I'm totally confused... Are they trying to integrate Skyrim with Facebook or not? (hope not) I ask because it says on the gameinformer site that it's "legit".

I hated the lock picking game in Oblivion, and I hated the lock picking in FO3 even more.

I hate breaking my lock picks.

Hey thats another idea for a mod. Infinate or unbreakable lock picks.

I hated the lock picking game in Oblivion, and I hated the lock picking in FO3 even more.

I hate breaking my lock picks.

Hey thats another idea for a mod. Infinate or unbreakable lock picks.