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GG im out. This game will fail hard. The only thing they care about is money. I expect this game to last about half a year before people start leaving. Then it will probably go free to play. And eventually vanish.

They had everything they could and failed hard.

Imperial - No advantage in PVP

Horse - No advantage in PVP

Imperial gear - No advantage in PVP

You may want to re-evaluate what you THINK p2w is.

Are you serious? How does this make it pay to win? Extra edition = extra content. I see nothing wrong about that. I will play high or wood elf anyway, so Imp. edition is not exactly what I would spend my coin for.
I hope for more beta testing before release as I would love to try PvP which worries me a little.

It's not really pay to win, as it gives you no advantage over other players beyond the mount for earlier levels till others get the chance to buy one.

It's one race, and one set of armor, which I'm pretty sure they won't make any different from other classes as in it won't have any massive 'upperhand' compared to the other faction/races in the game.

But of course, this is your opinion which you're entitled to have so I can't say anything other than my own opinion, and as far as I see it, it's pretty far from pay to win.

Bye person-who-doesn't-know-what-pay-to-win-actually-is.

Re-read on the definition on P2W before opening huge spamfest topics like this, please.

Of course they care about money.

That's what companies who make goods and services do. Care about money. They only differ in their approach of how to acquire it from people.

You Pay and you can Win great game.

I totally agree.

P2W? What exactly are we winning with these?

The gear and crafting aren't unique, though. Anyone can do it as long as they find the skill book and learn it. They've just got to find it. It's only unique in that's the style the imperials start off with. Much as argonian knows its style or a bosmer knows its style.

You clearly do not know what Pay 2 Win means. The CE is simply paying more for cosmetics, there is no advantage in PvE or PvP.

Imperial- Content removed, pvp isn't everything in this game.

horse- start the game with a HUGE amount of gold (the horse ingame costs HUGE HUGE HUGE amounts of gold, cant say how much cuze of nda, but suffice to say, normal subs can't afford it until MUCH later), basically they start with free gold

imperial gear- one of the few i agree in the CE and it should had been the strong point of the CE alone, i would be fine if this+horse was all the CE offers.

It's not pay 2 win, but tell me who do you think will reach that chest of treasure? the guy paying a normal sub+ game or the guy on the horse who pays the same but just payed EXTRA FOR A HORSE. It's not fair, thats the point, it affects the game, therefor it's REALLY CLOSE to pay 2 win, but I agree it's not.

Saying "you can get that ingame", is the same crap you say in f2p games with cash shop "hey u can get that piece of gear, kill the boss that 1 shots the entire raid, or pay 19,99€".

EDIT for the pvp part: whoever has the most horses will win in sieges/defense, can't say more cuze of nda, but whoever has the horse, wins, pure and simple.

Now thats beating a dead horse.

playing as imperial : u gain imperial race bonus same as any other race so it is not big deal, depending on what u want u can pick races they all have their advantages

imperial white horse : same thing as a regular horse just white

craft imperial gear : u get one more crafting style (btw there is lots of them)

so what are u talking about

Getting to chest faster on horse than a guy without a horse. Comeon, you need to find the chest first... thats still no pay to win. Just a little advantage for first week? Many hardcoe maniacs will have horse first day...

How to identify a troll:

They drop a bomb in a forum and never post in that thread again and sit back and watch everyone else run around in the chaos. Let's just move along and let the next wave of threads locked due to NDA violations drive this one to the depths where it belongs