This is a long rant, so if you've got something better to read, be my guest...

What is it about this game that has the community so divided between those of us who are good at the game and those that are bad at the game? Seriously, I've played my fair share of FPS's and this is the only game I've come across where one single guy on your team can lose the game for you.

I normally run in a squad of 2-3 good players and we rarely lose...maybe once a day. Twice if we run into a full party of legit players. The reason we lose? We get a guy on our team who will go 1-15.

I played solo today and had my first ever 3 loss-in-a-row session. During that session, I went 86-18. In the first game, not one of my teammates had a positive K/D. In fact, the 3 bottom players on my team had 1 kill, 1 kill and 2 kills with 15, 15 and 12 deaths. My 25-5 was completely negated, and thus we lost by a large margin.

So I decided to switch lobbies and try another game. Lo and behold, I join a game midway through where my team is losing by 8, 27-35. Normally that wouldn't be a substantial margin to make up, but at the end of the game, I was 21-6, while the 2nd place guy on my team was 11-12. We lost the game by 3.

Third game, I join a new lobby with a few decent players. The game ends and it's 75-57. I manage to score 40-7. My teammates manage to go 17-68. The last place guy on my team scores 0-21.

Don't get me wrong. I enjoy a tough match. Winning by 30+ points repeatedly is boring and I lose interest after a few games. When we do run into a good team and it's a closer game, it's a much more enjoyable experience. That being said, being forced to accumulate 50%+ of the 75 kills while managing 10 or fewer deaths on a game-to-game basis is difficult, unless you're in a bad lobby.

Being on a bad team svcks. If your teammates aren't throwing up radars and radar jammers, it hurts the team. I've been in games where the opposite team has failed to get any killstreaks. The end score reflects a lopsided game of 75-15 or the like. I've also been on the losing end where I throw up 5+ radars, jammers, orbitals and/or cephs and my team still can't manage to go positive.

Now is it just me or does this game seem to have the widest margin of player skill level that separates the good vs the bad? It only takes 2 good guys on 1 team to decimate a full team of "average" Crysis 2 players. I've been in games where me and my 1 squad member account for 65+ of the kills. I don't consider myself a great FPS player, but I'm certainly better than average, and this game definitely magnifies that fact. I'm probably a career 2.5 K/D on FPS games, buy on this game I hover around 3.5 while not trying half the time. I'm not being braggadocios, I'm just stating an observation, so take it however you like. If you agree, say so. If not, feel free to let me know why I'm wrong.

It has a wide margin! Don't think its the widest margin at all, but its the same on the xbox side. In every game there is a large margin in skill between the better players and the average, its just because some people understand the mechanics of a game easier and quicker than others. Also, some people don't know how to NOT stand out when play and just run into battles. If you are with a group of 2 to three one person shouldn't screw you over, but they can make it a lot tougher to win but that makes it interesting.

This is pretty true, I can only put it down to the majority of ppl who play crysis being fps newbs or really casual gamers because like you said all my stats on this game are insanely inflated compared to CoD, BF etc.

This is why i mostly play IA You can destroy all the 'average joes' without them being able to hinder you lol

I agree. I do much much better in this game than i could ever do in other games, ie COD.

I put it down to two main things: Mobility and Cloak, and how they combine together.

COD rewards defensive gameplay rather than aggressive, so most FPS players play defensively (ie holding off a corner of the map, camping) thinking they will do better. In this game you're much better off moving under cloak looking to pick people off from behind.

In this game it takes no time at all to traverse the map, under cover of cloak, and flank the enemy from the rear. Guarantee anybody who does well in this game gets a higher % of kills shooting people in the back than other FPSs.

I can definitely relate to the OP. Im frequently getting 30+ kills with less than 10 deaths and every one else in the lobby is just breaking even or going negative. Almost feels like cheating

I agree. I do much much better in this game than i could ever do in other games, ie COD.

I put it down to two main things: Mobility and Cloak, and how they combine together.

COD rewards defensive gameplay rather than aggressive, so most FPS players play defensively (ie holding off a corner of the map, camping) thinking they will do better. In this game you're much better off moving under cloak looking to pick people off from behind.

In this game it takes no time at all to traverse the map, under cover of cloak, and flank the enemy from the rear. Guarantee anybody who does well in this game gets a higher % of kills shooting people in the back than other FPSs.

I can definitely relate to the OP. Im frequently getting 30+ kills with less than 10 deaths and every one else in the lobby is just breaking even or going negative. Almost feels like cheating

I think you're right with the Mobility and Cloak thing. I've noticed that most good players don't leave cloak unless they're killing someone, while most bad players don't utilize cloak enough. It takes a while to get good at spotting people in cloak, but once you do it becomes easy to drop people with just a few bullets as opposed to feeding a clip into them while they're in armor mode.

You know this is the first fps I have played since doom3 and the first multiplayer ever for me, when I started I was one of the bad ... Real bad players. Now I'm average thanks to learning, watching others and paying attn. My kdr if for crap and can't wait to re boot to start over, I mainly play crash, my hobbys are playing objective and killing gun ships.

Here is my gripe, i know playing crash ur gonna die lol but if playing at least try and play objective. Last nite in 3 matches I had fools on my team camping or just running around, yes there were couple doing good killing people and I took or held site, all three tho I took MVP for holding and killing rushers, it does not help if pod is on one side and ur team is staying on the other, in one match there were two cool guys killing all, my wife came home and I had to run out to car real quick so I hopped on pod threw on stealth and visor hoping to tag someone, when I got back I was still alive but died due to pod exploding lol

If I'm doing poorly I'll sit back and tag people as support but if there are tards that ignore and run right past than it's pointless. I have no issues right now having crap kdr while staying in armor at pod while cloaked team is killing the people attracted to the one they can see.

Sorry didn't mean to rant but point is practice, practice and know ur position:)

i wish i could play crash site with people on my side of the planet, no one playing

Yea that stinks leguna.. I love crash site..

@DJstarShadow
http://www.youtube.com/user/TBonebaseball18?feature=mhee

that is my youtube.. and I have a lot of gameplay fgrom Gamebattles and serious matches on there.. I am not the best player in the game but supposedly one of the best and on the best team on XBOX supposedly. I know its xbox but it is crysis 2 still

Yeah, the sh!t can be outright ridiculous sometimes. (>_<) I try to get lots of those players to come check out my Tips & Tricks vids (you know the players...crouch-walking cloaked in the middle of the stage or whatever) and they just seem to shrug off my attempts to make them better players. I don't fooking get it. They obviously don't understand the game very well, I whoop them good & then give them a chance to see how--yet they still don't come around. I would JUMP at the chance to see better players play from their POV! You can improve SO quick that way. *sigh*

Oh & if anyone's curious, here's the link to my YT Channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/redhamuSLA

Yeah, the sh!t can be outright ridiculous sometimes. (>_<) I try to get lots of those players to come check out my Tips & Tricks vids (you know the players...crouch-walking cloaked in the middle of the stage or whatever) and they just seem to shrug off my attempts to make them better players. I don't fooking get it. They obviously don't understand the game very well, I whoop them good & then give them a chance to see how--yet they still don't come around. I would JUMP at the chance to see better players play from their POV! You can improve SO quick that way. *sigh*

Oh & if anyone's curious, here's the link to my YT Channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/redhamuSLA

Well, some people just slap on games for some small enjoyment. Which is fine.

Not everyone is bothered by getting better and such. If they stick to playing with their friends, or in IA, I doubt anyone really has an issue with them.

Every FPS has a gap. It won't really change.

Yeah, the sh!t can be outright ridiculous sometimes. (>_<) I try to get lots of those players to come check out my Tips & Tricks vids (you know the players...crouch-walking cloaked in the middle of the stage or whatever) and they just seem to shrug off my attempts to make them better players. I don't fooking get it. They obviously don't understand the game very well, I whoop them good & then give them a chance to see how--yet they still don't come around. I would JUMP at the chance to see better players play from their POV! You can improve SO quick that way. *sigh*

Oh & if anyone's curious, here's the link to my YT Channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/redhamuSLA

Yep watching other solid player gameplays are great.. even just for fun and not a learning sense.

I do wish I could do commentary.. my computer overheats when I render a new video so yea.. cant really do that.

i find this post a little late, i already posted about same topic. also i remember you quitting out several times roscoe when you were in our game. your not as good as you think, everyone who was good left for other games because they know a lost cause when they see one.

Some of it may be due to lag. I've seen many posts about people complaining about lag, but personally I don't think the lag is as bad as in Black ops.

Also, the TV resolution may play a part. I find that playing in 1080p makes the screen a bit blurrier.
A few days ago I had a game of Crash Site in 1080p, and couldn't get a single kill. I finished 0-15. Although the rest of my team didn't do too well either. I then switched to 720p, and had several good games.

ME III + SE III + ET III = Win!

im usually a good player, usually getting 15-5. but on crash i get 30-0. know why.

L-Tag

"prepares to defend himself against various thrown items"

The gap in Crysis 2 between good and bad players is not because bad players play badly. The real reason for such a disparity is that Crysis 2 allows good FPS players to get away with things they couldn't get away with even in COD and BF. The latter two game franchises boast their realism... but Crysis offers unrealistic (and thus wildly imaginative) ways to amplify the tactical awareness of good players. The reason why a 2.5 KDR COD player can get away with 3.5 on Crysis is because the system is designed to make good players even better: Now they can be invisible and shield against your shots! Great FPS players have excellent tactical awareness: to a good player, Crysis offers new skills that simply need to be applied differently. Poor FPS players continue in the same vein that they do in COD and BF: they don't learn tactical awareness quickly and they don't know how to maximize their strengths while minimizing weaknesses. The greater disparity in Crysis 2 is due to the fact that great players learn tactical applications in a more advanced system... while poor players fail to learn and thus misuse the tactical advances.

Interesting post. My experience is bit different. I currently have and play regularly: MW2, Black Ops, Killzone 3 and Crysis 2. By far, I play worse on Crysis 2 than any of the others. I experience more lag with this game than any other. Admittedly, I'm not a very good player on any of these games, but i do much better on the others. I do get my internet via my phone and I know that hurts me across through board on all games, but I am the most frustrated with this game. It sometimes takes an entire magazine of direct hits to kill someone while the killcam shows me it only takes a couple of bullets from those that kill me. I may be alone here, but thithis has been my experience and I'm frustrated. I wish I had the opposite experience, like everyone else.

The gap in Crysis 2 between good and bad players is not because bad players play badly. The real reason for such a disparity is that Crysis 2 allows good FPS players to get away with things they couldn't get away with even in COD and BF. The latter two game franchises boast their realism... but Crysis offers unrealistic (and thus wildly imaginative) ways to amplify the tactical awareness of good players. The reason why a 2.5 KDR COD player can get away with 3.5 on Crysis is because the system is designed to make good players even better: Now they can be invisible and shield against your shots! Great FPS players have excellent tactical awareness: to a good player, Crysis offers new skills that simply need to be applied differently. Poor FPS players continue in the same vein that they do in COD and BF: they don't learn tactical awareness quickly and they don't know how to maximize their strengths while minimizing weaknesses. The greater disparity in Crysis 2 is due to the fact that great players learn tactical applications in a more advanced system... while poor players fail to learn and thus misuse the tactical advances.

There is definitely something to this. (^_-)d

ME III + SE III + ET III = Win!

Yep, this + Cloak ALL THE TIME except when shooting.

That's all there is to being a good player, its not any more complicated than that.

Many times I've gone 30+kills and less than 5 deaths playing on 1 red bar against a lobby of 3 greens.

Try doing that in another shooter

When the gap becomes even bigger, two really good players can carry a team of 4 rubbish players, provided the opposition is equally rubbish.

i dont mind low lvl players playing poorly but ive seen some lvl 50 being average. good players think in all dimentions and use terrain to there advantage by ledge grabbing sliding jumping to flank a player even if there the ones being shot at they can come out on top. a poor player only thinks paths stairways playing 2 dimentional. i also think poor players dont use the mods to the max potential i know when i switched to using energy transfer stealth enhance and retriever my game improved vastly and then more so when they where lvl up. but the biggest differance i think is map knowlage ie (staying out of the open space for to long) but this applies to most games. but hey if it wasnt for newbs who would we shoot