It's not all that strange to have several gods that are roughly the same with different names. For example you can look back at the Roman Empire, they incorporated all foreign gods with their own religion and merged them as far as they were similair in principle.

I'm a little short on actual examples right now.

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Brian, it's not a bad idea, but a chart will be over looking the edges of each individual god. The Cyrodiilic Kynareth for example can be seen as an combination of the Nordic Kyne and Altmeri Y'ffre because Kynareth is both the goddess of the sky and the woodland creatures. (I'm aware that the unification isn't described anywhere but the spheres of Kyne and Kynareth don't exactly overlap).

A foot note would be helpfull.

Zeus---Jupiter
Hera---Juno
Hermes---Mercury
Ares---Mars
Hades---Pluto

Do those examples suffice?

Astareth, Ashtoreth, Ashtarte, Ishtar, Gaia, ... .... ....


A rose by any other name...

The more nuanced answer is accepting it at face value? That's a funny position. Forum history says it has been overlooked regularly.


Well, yes. You know I know this. This isn't syncretism, though. This is...myth echo, or fractured perspectives of the dawn. Tosh Raka, though, is likely just plain old mantling.

Good idea, Brian. Many of the TES pantheons are strange and obscure countries, and it's useful to have a map.

What would be totally awesome is if we could adapt this into a graphical version - a diagram showing all the regional pantheons - both Aedric and Daedric - and their inter-relations. I can imagine that both lore boffins and lore modders would be very interested in this sort of thing.

Imagine, if you will, a vast crimson tapestry embroidered in golden thread; an empyrean family tree showing the mythic genealogy of the divines. Such a thing might hang in the halls of the School of Julianos... and so it might be of interest to Xui'al for his mod.

If we can develop this diagram to an acceptable level of "completeness", I would be honoured to compile it in a suitably epic form.

Now, then.

Suggestions for the chart: somewhat more appropriate labelling? You sort the gods by people and by god-archetype... but in the people category, the labels are alternatively that of a race (Altmer/Bosmer) or a region (Bretony). Some regions are missing (Black Marsh, Morrowind), as are some gods (Jephre, Y'ffre, Magnus et cetera).

That wouldnt mak emuch sense, as the Dunmer dont worship the Diviens (at least not in form of a native religion, only in the imported Imperial Cult version) but originally the Daedra and later on the Tribunal. Different kind of spirits.

Pro: I'm aware of that annoyance. I believee you're right there, and afootnote would be helpful to an extent.

Astion: I went by how the pantheons are listed in Varieties of Faith so as for easy reference. I didn't include the other spirits who don't overlap obviously with other ones, the demi-gods , cultural hero gods, and the like. Magnus is only differentially called Magrus by the Khajiit, anyways. As you are surely aware, we know nothing of Black Marsh. See the previous debates for Morrowind

The Khajiit equivalent of Stendarr is S'rendarr.

Even MK included the Scuttling Void "for the sake of completeness". :shrug:

Also... my memory fails me at this point, but Ixtaxh-Thtithil-Meht is the Argonian version of Padomay, correct? Or was it Lorkhan?

He's right.

Well, there we go. Tsun is Zenithar, then, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WordOfGod. Seems like the differences in temperament between the two gods is similar to what Prow described between Kyne and Kynareth -- an interesting process. Perhaps someone should write an FSG article about "deity decay" between cultures...

Well then, that helps. Thankee.

apocalypselater: read the last sentence of the OP, I'm aware.

Oh my god, I hope you're not adding all the Saints of the Dunmer. :facepalm:

Nice a good thought and good work Brian, it's always nice to see your works. Did that make sence?

Nah...they were only just mortals.

That is somewhat irrelevant when people worship their ancestors and not their gods. Coincidently they also happen to cover the same area's as the Eight.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r291/nybaterri/elderscrolls/Godchart2.jpg With fixes. What does they think?

I can dig it, at least.

Orkey is Malacath, not Arkay.

No, he's not. You're wrong. Read post #19.

Also, Khenarthi is spelled wrong in the chart.

[censored]. Oh well.

DUDE! I Just read that thread, lets not start that again, the guy who made up the pantheons MK himself, said that Orkey is Arkay. Read the link. Seriously, I lost any remaining respect for Mortazo after reading that.

Meh. I was mostly going off True Nature of the Orcs. I guess that's what I get for not reading the whole thread.

Are you going to add what we know about the Orcs' religion, and other smaller religions? Such as the Skaal's believves.

I also strongly suggest putting Argonia on there, even if we don't know anything about it. Then, if we were to angrily shove the chart in the faces of people asking questions, they would not automatically add "What about Argonians?"

The Skaal can't readily be shoehorned into that diagram. The All-Maker and his Adversary are up on the Anu-Padomay level.

As for people asking questions, throw a book at them.