Ambassador Crocker- NCR

I doubt I can earn your trust within one conversation, but my next proposal certainly shouldn't hurt. A temporary cease fire along the I-15 until the end of the Mojave Conflict at least.The NCR will direct all citizens travelling along the I-15 not to venture towards Black Mountain when they enter the Mojave from the Mojave Outpost. In return you make a greater effort to keep Nightkin away from the Highway. If we could just keep our citizens from bothering one another this current level of animosity will decline. What do you say?

OOC- Ok so I'm about to go to sleep. During the day tomorrow I'll be busy with school and work. If someone else wishes to join the threads go ahead and when I come back online I'll add your name to the list. If your spot becomes contested while I'm gone (You claim the Legion for instance and then someone else does too) then try to work it out amongest yourselfs, Nellis convention people should still have first picks in such a case sense they've seen this rodeo before. In any case I'll share more details of my idea about "turns" sometime tomorrow. Good night.

Guys, if it's alright, i would like to take control of The Strip, ( Mr. House. )

I have played with the small economy of the Fiends and I would like to switch to a large economy like Mr. House.

I'll make my first post tomorrow.

Stonewall- I can't speak for Bob but I would imagine that you could make a deal to get the airplane with another faction, but all talks would be pre-bomber. Plans to get the bomber. Nellis convention wasn't roleplay, however, I like roleplay ( especially in the bedroom. It's not what you think, I have comfortable chairs ...) but the orgional thread was about diplomacy, bob may have different ideas ...

OOC: I would like to join in as well.

I think I will take control of Goodsprings for my first roleplay.

Doc Mitchell (Brosafari) : Goodsprings

*Enters the room and instantly begins talking with great urgency*

"Ambassador Crocker, I have waited far too long to have a word with you. I am representing the small settlement of Goodsprings. Although we are gathered here today to discuss the peace of New Vegas, I must request your help in eradicating the Powder Ganger presence in Goodsprings. I can only hope it is not too out of line to ask for a few troops to be sent to our home. It may seem as though our settlement might not be of any value to the NCR, but we would do anything to use some of your protection. We aren't rich as you can tell, but I can offer any spare medical supplies and our town's eternal debt."

Ave, True to Caesar! I am Frumentarius Brontus, by the will of the mighty Caesar, I am here to make talks with you Profligates, and, of course, the Mighty Great Khans.

Great Khans, I trust we are still at our arrangement, when the time comes you shall support us for the free reign over the Mojave.

NCR, I suggest you flee, it is the best hope Profligates like you, scum, can hope for! Leave or be added to the dead!

Followers, by the will of the mighty Caesar, you are to be spared, even accepted in our growing nation.

Black Mountain, The Legion, not the "Battle Cattle", wish to make no attempts to engage your forces. We grant a ceasefire indefinitely.

Mr. House, we are willing to spare you for your prolonged support, perhaps we can come to a greater, more mutually beneficial arrangement. I know we have something you want.

Remnants, do you not hate the NCR? Moreno, is it? Did you not see the bloodthirsty NCR troops kill your comrades? Join the Legion, have your revenge!

*Sits down*

Ambassador Stonewall; Boomers

*Stands up, as seems to be increasingly common.*

Thank you for mentioning me in your opening statement Ambassador Brontus.

I would like to mention that (as you can see) I have come to this meeting alone. But if things were to go badly, and I were to die... Bad things would happen.

NCR: We may be able to find some common ground in the shape of a ceasefire.

Great Khans: I will look to all offers of help, but you will not be forgotten.

Legion: I would like to talk more about the people you modlelled your society on, as I have limited knowledge on them and they sound very learned.

To those who just joined us, I bid you good tidings from The Boomers. I will look forward to conversing at great length.

I am retiring to my room.

*Leaves slowly growing audience to quiet musings*

Boomers, The Legion is a great army, forged from the unification of many tribes. Only our military is present in the Mojave, but back in our territory, we have scholars and citizens. We believe in the purity of body and mind, therefore chems are banned. We are a tolitarian state, we work for our leader and god Caesar, son of Mars. Legionaries who serve Caesar well are handsomely rewarded, much honour and luxury is bestowed upon the Caesar's greatest followers and allies, such as the Great Khans.

ooc- The list has been updated.
@ rooster smith- PM me about your RP ideas, mainly the extent to which you want to see RP. I think my "turns" idea (which I'lll expand on later today) will probably fall inline with that.

Ambassador Crocker- NCR

*Stands greeting everyone (even Brontus)
*Turns to brosafari
I'm so glad a representative from your settlement could make it today! The Powder Gangers won't hurt your town under my watch. After the NCR clears Primm I'll make sure some of that detactment make their way to Goodsprings. You can keep your medicial supplies and such, I only ask that once the war is over Goodsprings becomes part of our mighty republic.

*Glances at Brontus while sitting back down.
Quite the entrance Brontus, when your ready to talk about a cease fire let me know.

*Turns to Stonewall
So here are the terms of the ceasefire.

Boomers will allowed free reign in the Mojave and free travel within the NCR. In return NCR traders and caravans can trade at the entrace of Nellis. I think this is a solid foundation for any beginning of trade relations.

I assure you, profligate, Hoover Dam will be painted red with the blood of your troops. Just look at Nelson, Nipton and Searchlight. The road into the NCR will be paved by the bodies of your soldiers.

I would think about trading with us, Boomers, NCR has already proved that it's Caravans are easy pickings, ours are as safe as houses. You don't want to be involved with the corrupt, bloated monstrosity that is NCR.

I will pick up as the same faction as I was at the Nellis conv.

Ambassador Daniels of the Mohave Chapter Brotherhood of Steel, if thats all right

Cheers

Ambassador Andronicus: Enclave Remnants

I have no doubts that my compatriot Moreno would welcome the opportunity to unleash his mini-gun upon NCR soldiery, however we are not entirely willing to give ourselves to be mercenaries for the Legion. I have principle issues with your neglect of technology for one.

We also have two of our number who would of course, object to becoming a Legion kill team. Arcade Gannon and Johnson specifically. Although myself and Moreno often question whether or not Johnson should be considered a true Remnant anyway.

Know that we have no specific quarrel with the Legion as of this moment however.

Later. perhaps then Lieutenant. Know that you wouldn't have to join the Legion, just be an ally, ergo, our restrictions wouldn't affect you. Tell me about these Johnson and Arcade characters.

BoS, we are interested in a ceasefire with you, we have encountered BoS in the past and we managed to coexist peacefully. I believe we could do the same in the Mojave. Ally with us and be protected against the murdererous NCR.

*Sits down*

Ambassador Stonewall; Boomers

I will contemplate your offer Ambassador Crocker.

If the Legion has a counter offer Ambassador Ouchobrain, please put it forward and it will be contemplated. Also, I must say that your society sounds interesting.

Ambassador Andronicus, why is Johnson not a true Remnant? And I was under the impression that some of you brothers are being held in prisons by some members of The Golf Convention. Is this true?

Ambassador Andronicus: Enclave Remnants

When Johnson served with the Enclave, he frankly hated the organization. He often attempted to "serve without serving" and on more than one occasion deliberately disobeyed orders. He is a Remnant in terms of how he was formerly a part of the Enclave, but loyalty wise he can hardly be considered a true loyal member of the Enclave.

As opposed to my compatriot Moreno here, who never questioned his orders and who to this day remains loyal to God and Country.

In regards to your question as to imprisoned former members of the Enclave, yes, there is a significant amount of our number who reside in NCR prisons.



Both have moral objections to the Legion. Arcade in particular.

Instead of relying upon the bandit riddled caravan system of the West, look to the East. We could send caravans through the east into Nellis rather than the area through which most people try to enter your homeland. The Legion has no use for chems and Stimpacks, we use natural restoratives; we can trade those in vast quantities, we also have a surplus of Stealth Boys as well as some artillery shells. We can tribute these supplies to you, through our reliable caravans, in return for your support against our enemies. The life of a legionary is rewarding and honourable, perhaps not a little easy, a squad of troopers does not provide a challenge suitable for a single Legion recruit!

Speaking of Stealth Boys, I have a proposition for the people of Black Mountain. If you branch out towards NCR territory and attack their troops, we can supply you with those all important Stealth Boys!

This Arcade seems better suited to be a doctor, not a member of the Enclave!

Ambassador Stonewall; Boomers

Ambassador Ouchobrain: Using our telescopes, we have spied a cannon at your (fairly flimsy) Fort. We would like to acquire it.

Ambassador Crocker- NCR

Ambassador Oucho you really expect us to believe that the BOS armor your centurions wear was "peacefully acquired?". I've never met a BOS member that willingly gives up their Paldian armor.


Right the luddite faction within the region is going to have a large enough number of pre war advanced military technology to provide the meta humans of Black Mountain, Oucho save your fantasies for those east of the Colorado.

*Turns to Ambassador Lobotomite
Waging war against our the NCR will profit you nothing, and in the long run the sleath boys will run out even if the Legion somehow managed to find them. So, are you ready for a cease fire?

*Approachs Ambassador Daniels
Glad you could make it! Take any seat you like!

*Stands and speaks to the general assembly

I believe we have enough representatives, although it doesn't seem right without Mr. House, but I'm sure he will appear eventually. If everyone would take their seats, I think it's time for the big show to start. If everyone's ready,,,


OOC- Ok so here's my idea for turns. After things begin to get boring, there's an impass, or just a large number of post have been posted then a turn passes. A turn will be a month break within the Fallout world during which a faction can undertake 3 actions. So let's say the Khans and Boomers decide to work together to recover the bomber from the lake. That would mean both groups could only perform 2 other actions that turn. That doesn't mean they couldn't promise to other things of course, but those things will be put on the back burner until the they have the resources to do so.

Space isn't the only component of course. Getting a plane from the bottom of a lake is more work than radioing someone to let hostages go for example. So for every action taken by a faction they should also list the steps. So for the Bomber project, for both factions it would look something like this.

Step A. Go to Lake Meed
Step B. Put the floation devices on the plane
Step C. Retrive the plane

The limits of 3 things per turn and mulitple turn objectives adds trade offs to all of this. No faction can do a million things at once and I think that should be reflected in the negotations. But theres something else to and that's the idea that our actions should have some sort of effect. If you make a deal with a faction and list the steps then it will be automatically done and noted during the turn. I'll note the progress of said deal during that said time. If you want to put that deal on the backburner then just say so during the turn period or when you complete the deal. Now I said earlier you don't have to complete a deal just because you say so, in fact you can betray the very faction you said you would help. So let's look at the Khans Boomer trade again. Let's say they both complete step one of meeting but then during step two the Khans steal some equipment or something and run away. That would be a betrayal. It could be as large as killing a leader or as small as not showing up.

So what do you all think? If you all want to do this just tell me, if not just let me know. Want to see something like this but only changed then write your differences in your post. In the meantime the negotations continue..

Well, going by in-game evidence, The Courier can acquire up to 63 StealthBoys per drop from the Legion as part of Caesar's Favor. The Legion just throws that stuff away since it's trash to them.

-Nukeknockout

Rooster Smith- New Vegas

Good evening everybody. My name is Rooster Smith, I am here as a representive of Mr. House, who owns New Vegas, and the famous new Vegas Strip.

( Cuts a loud Fart, which everyone notices ... )

Damn it ... I'm sorry. I'm nervous.

I would like to start off this post by making it clear what we wish to obtain from this convention. then later, I will go into detail about what we can offer any faction in exchange.

Propositions.

1. An Autonomous State. We never really thought of New Vegas as a nation but seeing how the Mojave has changed these last few years, we would now like to announce ourselves as a soverign nation. Our flag is the lucky 38 kicking slapping a prosttute but that may change to a more politically correct symbol in future weeks.

We would like very much for every faction to please reconize us as a soverign nation. It would mean the world to us. We are however, different than most nations.

for one, we operate much like a company. There is a minimum requirement of capital to live inside the strip. We do this because most of our citizens are wealthy. It is a sad but true fact that most poor people are responsible for crime and cruelity. They are more likely to use chemicals that make them unstable. Our citizens pay for the right to live alongside peacful folks, and our many visitors pay for the right to vacation alongside a high class of people.

We don't say this to be mean or to be elitist, in fact, many of our citizens come from very poor childhoods. We just wish to be safe. We harbor no ill will towards any faction, and if possible, we wish to help them out if we can.

For that reason, we wish for evey faction to respect our borders.

2. The Rubuilding of the Human Race. The great war was a huge bummer to say the least. Mr. House and many of our citizens who agree to live under his rule, wish to bring technology and living conditions back to pre war levels. The intelligence of this man is off the charts. He can do it, he has the financial resources to make this dream a reality. Many faction in the Mojave can benifit from this, he's willing to offer very good compensation for various skill sets.

But even the poor working class/entry level citizens of every faction will benift long term. their children, even more so.

What we want is for no faction to impede on that.

3. The Platinum chip. Ouchobrain, we know you have it and yes we want it. We belive that we can come to a mutually benificial deal in exchange for the chip. Please name your price and we will be very happy to pay that price if we can.

Assets- We wish very much to help out anyother faction if we can. Allow us to name our assets and if any faction wants help in this area, we may be able to come to a deal.

1. Caps. If you can provide a service, we can provide adiquite financial compensation. Any service at all.

2. Fantastic living conditiion. If you have something to offer, living in the strip is a fantastic way for you to increase your standard of living. We will comp nearly everything, or if you don't wish to live in a luxury suite, we have houses which you can have for free, however, you will have to pay taxes, the saftey, convience of the nieghborhoods and upper class community will make it worth it.

3. We are going to start up a Football league. Real Football, not Throwball. The New Vegas Cosmos will be owned and operated by Mr. House, and the league will be largley subsidized by Mr. House as well, so no faction need go without a team. If you are interested in starting a team, we will expect you to pay what you can, if you can. But a large portion of the bill will be covered by us. Please let us know.

The Last thing I want to say is, over the next few days, I will talk to each faction individually to see what we can do for you, and you can do for us. I will be in touch with all of you, but if you want to contact me, that's fine too.

Thank you all.

OOC: I like your turn idea, bob, I'm sure it will work even if we need to tweek it now and again.

However, about roleplay? I don't know much about it. I'm sure someone who played dungeons and dragons would know more. right now i think it is better to keep it simple and do it with your turn based system.

I proposed a Football League. That could happen after the convention is over, so I won be using an action on it.

NCR only has three battalions? I feel that is very small for their nation.

I believe that's just in the Mojave (or able to be deployed in the Mojave) but I could be wrong.

It is still a bit small though.

ooc- Yeah I've never really roleplayed and it's probably best if we keep it all the extra to a min. for now. I'll add your name to the list right now, glad you could join. And a football league? Umm sounds interesting, I have a feeling that's going to come back up.

Ambassador Crocker- NCR

Hello Ambassador Rooster Smith I'm glad Mr. House's representative could arrive! It's been awhile since Mr. House has spoken with us, so let's not waste anytime.

A. The NCR is not totally opposed to the idea of some type of autonomy for Mr. House if the NCR can keep control of the Hoover Dam and it's forces in the region. I believe the current status quo of Strip indepedence and no armed NCR troops on the Strip will remain sufficent. I see no reason to radically change the current status of our relantionship with the Legion at our gates threating to take away all that Mr. House has worked for. If you wish to discuss changed borders or establish more formal relations it would probably be better if we wait until the Legion threat is reduced. The last thing we need right now is a fractured front to present to other factions. Don't worry the NCR will continue to respect all laws, rules and regulations Mr. House has set forth on the Strip and will continue to respect our previous Treaty of Vegas.

B. The NCR certainly won't impede the delevopment of humanity and will continue to allow all NCR citizens to travel freely to New Vegas. Unlike some factions we are not discouraging to technological progress.

C. I would warn against trading with the Legion. This is the same group that wishes to line the roads to Vegas with the dead. Tread at your own risk friend.

D. The NCR is certainly interested in the setting of an international football association, but those details can be hammered out on a later date.

Now sense these negotations have formly started let me just given an overview for everyone here of what the NCR seeks.

Firstly we would like to see a region wide cease fire between all groups for the duration of these talks. It will be much more difficult to form any sort of peace agreement if our soldiers continue to kill each other and raise tensions. Sense everyone has gone through all the trouble of coming here in the name of peace, it only makes sense to take a first step towards that goal. This ceasefire would only take 1 out of 3 our your action points for one turn due to the need to communicate said cease fire to all groups involved. If anyone is willing to take the first step towards the long journey of peace, then surely they will take this course of action.

Secondly the NCR would like to turn negotations to the task of permanently ending this war and setting the new borders of the Region, trading and swapping whatever terrorities, goods and services are needed to achieve a lasting calm.

*Turns his neck back to Ambassador Stonewall
You asked about Legion culture, let me tell of the Legion's culture. They are a group of totalitarian slavers who wish to rule the world on behest of their leader/god, Caeser. Using child soldiers, [censored] and frontal assaults they expand and considlate by destroying every nation, tribe and culture, such as yours, that they can conquer. Using a mix of melee dominated combat and spy tactics they have no moral or ethical lines and will stop at nothing until the whole of the civilized world bows at the feet of Caeser. Because of their totalitarian nature many forms of technological progress are banned and that applies to caravans as well.

If you need stimpaks for you sick, then Crimson Caravans' can support you, but not the Legion.
If you seek to repair, equip or trade new weapons then the NCR's gun runners are your best bet, not the luddist Legion.
If you want to have civil rights guarnetted while leaving your base to trade and explore then the NCR is your best bet, offering full rights to all humans and sane meta humans within our borders. Unlike the Legion with whom your caravans would be under constant threat of arbitary execution or worse.
If you want industrial goods or maybe even one day electricity, then the NCR is your best hope, not the group that denies almost all forms of modern technology.

Ambassador Stonewall if you seek a peaceful and properous future then the NCR is the best faction for the job.

Ambassador Mitchell - Goodsprings

*takes his seat as Crocker responds*
"I appreciate your concern for our settlement. I would hope that the NCR's affairs in Primm are soon resolved, because we could use the detachment sooner, rather than later. It will be hard for all my people to pledge allegiance to the NCR when we have remained independent for so long. I see the protection of Goodsprings as my number one goal, and we will accept becoming a part of the New California Republic. This union alone could help scare off some of the Powder Gangers who are constantly harassing our residents. We will serve however we must although we aren't an army. I have made arrangements to clear out the http://images.wikia.com/fallout/images/3/3f/Goodsprings_schoolhouse.jpg and turn it into a small barracks for the NCR soldiers moving here. We can also provide a nice clean water supply, and some of it we can gladly send to different camps of yours in return for the protection.

We also have another small problem, but that will need to wait until a member from the NCRCF arrives."

Ambassador Crocker- NCR
I understand your concerns and make a pledge to you this very moment. Within this current month (turn) we will find a resolution to the status of the Powder Gangers and Goodsprings assilmation into the NCR. Goodspings and Primm will come under NCR within 2 turns I will see to it.

1 turn to tell Lt. Hayes to occupy Primm (after a settlement with the Powder Gangers or forceful occupation regardless)
1 turn for NCR troops to secure Goodsprings.

I would like to note that we probably won't be needing your schoolhouse for the garrison of troops concerning the Powder Gangers are the only threat to your community to my knowledge. After the troops secure your town from the Powder Gangers they will more than likely be needed elsewhere. Please don't feel the need to serve or even treat life any differently. The only change will be much increased safety from criminals like the Powder Gangers.

Ambassador Mitchell - Goodsprings
"We are happy to be a part of your wonderful nation, and look forward to elaborating on this alliance in the following month. I appreciate your concern against the filthy gang members plaguing our town. We will not change our everyday lives but will show our debt to the NCR as a small but unrelenting force in the upcoming battle. We need the safety of an organization such as yours and are ecstatic about the chance to become an NCR town. May New California grow everyday, and continue to protect small settlements like ours.