The Good, the Bad and the Hacker

Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:23 pm

Hello to all,

Some of you may know me, some of you may not know me (lol) and some of you now hate me. xD
For those that know me and hate me, I am known in-game as "aQ Balzak".

"aQ" being the tag name for AeQuus, an ESL clan.

Some of you may be asking yourselves "What the F**k is ESL!?"
Basicly, ESL (Electronic Sports League) is where all the good and pro players meet and battle each other to win prizes, national, european and even world championships and have the chance to become a well known player in the gaming world and get sponsorship, win money, candy, cookies all that good stuff. But that's not the point right now...

I've come here to pseudo-rant about the casual players, which in a way are paranoid.
"Why are they paranoid?" you ask. Well.. basicly it all comes down to the GREAT *sarcasm* Crytek's Anti-cheat system.
As we all know in the first few weeks Crysis 2 Multiplayer became infested with cheaters/hackers.
Now that is has come down a bit, atleast I only see like 1 or 2 cheaters in two weeks time..., the "fear" of getting in a server and find yourself playing with/against one is still ever present.

I say this because when good players join pub servers, they instantly become cheaters mostly because of their high kill to death ratio.

For example it seems that I am now perma-kicked from a german clan server, the fmj- esports.
I've also been kicked from others, but not permanetly.

Below is a link to a screenshot I toke demonstrating that casual players feel... threaten.. about people being able to have higher scores than them and being able to hand their asses to them.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/114355452-4.jpg

I'll also leave 2 Youtube videos recorded today, of people trying to kick me off the server and acusing me of cheating.





While I'm at it: http://www.youtube.com/ba1zak with more gameplay recording I made further proving that I do not cheat.

Another reason why I created this topic is to let other honest, good players that are having the same "problem", post their proof of not cheating and maybe so that one day when they feel like playing some C2 Multiplayer don't find they account banned which they spent hours of their lives dedicating, if you will, to this game and see it all going down the drain because casual players can't tell the difference from good players and douchebag cheaters.

Thank you,
- Balzak

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Katey Meyer
 
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:17 pm

Really?

This problem is easily solvable.

You or Crytek needs to make 'bout 10 "PRO" servers, for players level 40+.

That'll give you a challenge, and the casuals some normal gameplay
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Albert Wesker
 
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:37 pm

nicely said, i'm also getting some pain in playing good because people see that as cheating :D
and nice 2nd video, I skipped the first coz i hate sniping. but why u run uncloaked u will be as good as dead when u get shot in the back : ), also nice accuracy btw.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:36 am

You "pro" players please stay on your pro servers. While you play it for a job, we play it for entertainment. And if you "pro" players come to our public servers, you'll ruin our fun. So why don't you rent your own password protected server for training instead of pwning the majority of players who just play it for fun? The cost of renting a server should easily be coverd by your sponsorship.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:09 pm

nicely said, i'm also getting some pain in playing good because people see that as cheating :D
and nice 2nd video, I skipped the first coz i hate sniping. but why u run uncloaked u will be as good as dead when u get shot in the back : ), also nice accuracy btw.

Well first i'm not too fond of cloaking, I rarely used it in Crysis 1 and Wars and am doing the same with C2
I only use cloak when I need to multi-task or answer people on Xfire xD

Also always hiding in cloak doesn't get you much skill, now trying to survive a fight with 2 guys shooting at your arse does, a lot.

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Tamara Primo
 
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:48 pm

Mhm... sniping from first clip is more casual style than pro ;)
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Judy Lynch
 
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:29 am

You "pro" players please stay on your pro servers. While you play it for a job, we play it for entertainment. And if you "pro" players come to our public servers, you'll ruin our fun. So why don't you rent your own password protected server for training instead of pwning the majority of players who just play it for fun? The cost of renting a server should easily be coverd by your sponsorship.


Maybe we "pro" players like to play it for entertainment too have you ever think of that? Also you can't really turn down your ability to react and aim.

Even in normal servers there's always a challange present.
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Sarah Edmunds
 
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:24 pm

Mhm... sniping from first clip is more casual style than pro ;)

Those 2 videos are not about showing off, it's about the players trying to kick me out.
In fact all videos I have uploaded to YT are just gameplays. Show off videos are "Frag movies".

If you load the videos in 720p you'll notice that they tried to kick me out the whole 2 games I played.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:47 pm

If this is about being accused of cheating while you are NOT cheating, then why you brag trough half of your post, instead of making your point using three sentences? Guess implying that you are "pro" player, and pointing out that you are member of "cool" clan is more important than actually proving that you are legit.
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rebecca moody
 
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:53 am

Man, you make my post look like the good child in the family, lol.
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Isabel Ruiz
 
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:34 pm

Pros playing for fun, can't really have objection though maybe taking down the notch a little by not using favorite weapon or giving yourself a bit of self disadvantage of sort would be appreciated.

With power comes responsibility?

llooll...
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:25 am

Also you can't really turn down your ability to react and aim.

Then please go to servers with pings higher than 500ms, thanks.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:40 pm

Rather than providing any sort of hostility towards Balzak and missing the point of the post one should appreciate the fact that he pointed out how good players can be misjudged as hackers. I totally understand his position as i face the same issue but i never bothered to take a recording as to reply to someone quoting "i am not a cheater you can check the frag videos posted" is now ignored. One might say go to "pro" servers but how do you judge non-pro servers from pro; The fact that you are higher ranked than others so all high ranked players should play together? or you have to be part of a professional ESL clan and play only with them ? in either case the point of purchasing a game which is for fun and then be denied complete multi-player experience as crytek fails in providing good anti-cheat as some of the hackers out there exploit gamers by infusing the thought "You can be a pro too with hacks ofc" is totally F***kep up.
Thought i would share my two cents regarding this topic.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:51 pm

i am far away from beeing pro, and i can understand why sometimes people think they cheating.

Its often very frustrating, exept if you cant play so good ,you cant realize how 25 kills should be possible.
But it is.

i play with Crysis 2 my first Multiplayer shooter since Quake 3 Arena, and belive me, it was really hard to get in again.
Maybe im to old. ;-)
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:34 am

i'm starting to notice the same problem where people just start voting me >.< most noobs don't know how to vote so it hasn't been successful yet. The problem is that there are still cheats that work in Crysis 2, I wish EA/Cryteks anti cheat would work. Obvious cheaters can be banned but there are definately dodgier stuff out there thats harder to prove.

Though I'm far from pro, and dropped being serious at fps gaming after one incident. Back in high school a bunch of us were more serious about gaming and going in leagues and tournaments. A few weeks after I had just won in a tournament, I went to a random lan, and a freaking 7 to 10 year old beat me. His father owned the lan and rather than day-care the kid played in the lan all day all week. I was like damn, thought he was using an aimbot so we went to watch him as he annhilated my mates. At that point I retired from an ambition of serious gaming lol. I have a lot more fun now though :D
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:21 am

I have no qualms against Balzak and the other 'pro' players, as long as there's no cheating going on I lose graciously and try my best to overcome my opponents. Plus from the videos it's clear that you can be killed if someone's sharp enough on the trigger.

When the patch comes out to simplify voting I feel that there's going to be a lot of anguish of genuine players being kicked off just because they're winning. :/
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:26 am

I don't consider myself a pro player, as in, I have little to no interest in leagues (I do however have a clan or more like a community, not competitive, bunch of friends playing together for kicks). However I don't think i'm casual either, considering I have hundreds if not thousands of hours stacked across many games in many genres. FPS, RPG, RTS, Racing...

I agree with the idea that some "casual" players are paranoid. However, this paranoia can be found in all kinds of players. Blaming it all on the "casuals" shows a bit of paranoia on your pro side too. "Pros" are usually paranoid about casuals, and their unpredictability. I've see casual players dominate pro players just because they do things the pros would never think about doing, either because they are out of the box ideas or simply mad ideas (that work sometimes). But that's going off topic.

My point is that blaming casual players is wrong. Being casual doesn't necessarily mean they are paranoid and hate you and your skills. On the other hand, being an asshole does. Unfortunately, most games have their share of assholes who either administrate servers or know how to votekick.

So let's not hate on the casuals, who play casually just for fun, and lets hate the assholes instead.

I've found that playing on a handful of regular servers over and over again is good to create relationships between players, and as you become a better player and pull insane stunts and kill streaks out of your butt, everyone else will trust you because they know you. So hang out on your favorite servers, make friendships with the regulars there and have fun. Hating on other kind of players such as casuals makes pros look like elitist pricks. And on my book, both casuals and pros can be cool or assholes. It all depends on the individual, not their skill.
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:04 am

To avoid problems do live in a video with a video camera so you are 'sure you do not use anything ..
Look my video .. and 'with the patch 1.2
Can I do it again on demand
This is my video
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4MZIW0NK
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:47 am

Rather than providing any sort of hostility towards Balzak and missing the point of the post one should appreciate the fact that he pointed out how good players can be misjudged as hackers. I totally understand his position as i face the same issue but i never bothered to take a recording as to reply to someone quoting "i am not a cheater you can check the frag videos posted" is now ignored. One might say go to "pro" servers but how do you judge non-pro servers from pro; The fact that you are higher ranked than others so all high ranked players should play together? or you have to be part of a professional ESL clan and play only with them ? in either case the point of purchasing a game which is for fun and then be denied complete multi-player experience as crytek fails in providing good anti-cheat as some of the hackers out there exploit gamers by infusing the thought "You can be a pro too with hacks ofc" is totally F***kep up.
Thought i would share my two cents regarding this topic.

Thank you for really undersatnding my point even though it seems I wasn't clear enough.
Was never good at expressing myself. xD

The point in pointing out ESL was because it kinda requires you to actually be good, not saying pro.
I never called myself a pro and never will, as i am not one.

Any casual player can become good and I don't have any problems with it. Hell I know lots of players that can kick my ass any day of the week. I'm fine with that.
We all start from the bad point and as you play, you pick up a few tricks from other players and start to improve. Some faster, some slower.

I really have no problem with casual players, it's just that for some people if they see someone make a score of, lest's say, 20-5, there's got to be something fishy about it.

I, like everybody else, play games to also make friends. I've made alot of good friends over all my years of gaming.

I'm sorry if my post sounded like I'm an arrogant asshole. I was just really frustrated about it at the time.
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:50 pm

To avoid problems do live in a video with a video camera so you are 'sure you do not use anything ..
Look my video .. and 'with the patch 1.2
Can I do it again on demand
This is my video
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4MZIW0NK

Lol I've asked people to add me on xfire and that I'd do a live broadcast for them. They didn't care. xD
BTW I think I played against you last night..
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Post » Fri Jun 03, 2011 5:26 am

@Balzak Thanks for pointing this out, I understand your frustration and believe it is legitimate.

I am far from being a "pro" player however I consider myself a "good" player that occasionally has bad luck/scores ;) I only encountered this problem once where this one guy kept yelling HACKER every time he died, also initiating a vote kick request every time. There are guys like this in every server and I believe they shouldn't be taken seriously and many players don't believe them as their vote-kicks rarely succeed.

From my experience lag and minor bugs play a huge part, I was nearly kicked from a server because the enemy saw me shooting in cloak while I was in armor mode and behind the guy already. Yesterday I saw this one guy suddenly fly down from the sky, drop a C4 on our crash site and fly back up, killing everyone instantly but I couldn't convince my team that he was cheating because they said they didn't see anything like that at all.

Also currently the kill cam is far from effective and every kill looks like a hack. People punching the air and killing you, enemy gun following you behind the walls etc.

What I am trying to say is: there is currently no reliable system available for players to determine if they were killed by a hack assisted player or just a normal/lucky guy or skill in your case. And as long as this is the case this problem might never be solved. One solution I found is to communicate with my team and gang up on the guy we are suspecting, if he manages to kill us all in less than a second (we approach from different directions) well then at least we can initiate that vote with clear conscious :)
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Post » Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:10 pm

I don't consider myself a pro player, as in, I have little to no interest in leagues (I do however have a clan or more like a community, not competitive, bunch of friends playing together for kicks). However I don't think i'm casual either, considering I have hundreds if not thousands of hours stacked across many games in many genres. FPS, RPG, RTS, Racing...

I agree with the idea that some "casual" players are paranoid. However, this paranoia can be found in all kinds of players. Blaming it all on the "casuals" shows a bit of paranoia on your pro side too. "Pros" are usually paranoid about casuals, and their unpredictability. I've see casual players dominate pro players just because they do things the pros would never think about doing, either because they are out of the box ideas or simply mad ideas (that work sometimes). But that's going off topic.

My point is that blaming casual players is wrong. Being casual doesn't necessarily mean they are paranoid and hate you and your skills. On the other hand, being an asshole does. Unfortunately, most games have their share of assholes who either administrate servers or know how to votekick.

So let's not hate on the casuals, who play casually just for fun, and lets hate the assholes instead.

I've found that playing on a handful of regular servers over and over again is good to create relationships between players, and as you become a better player and pull insane stunts and kill streaks out of your butt, everyone else will trust you because they know you. So hang out on your favorite servers, make friendships with the regulars there and have fun. Hating on other kind of players such as casuals makes pros look like elitist pricks. And on my book, both casuals and pros can be cool or assholes. It all depends on the individual, not their skill.

Like getting REALLY good with the air stomp. All most no one uses it even after the Buff(which makes it worth trying harder for an AS.) So a lot of good players that win dogfights easily sometimes never look up....which is where I am. Lol you think they would learn by now after having been air stomp multiple times to look up.
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