Somehow two nvde female nords doesn't sound too practical in the harsh winters of Skyrim...

As long as Bethesda incorporates gore/nudity within the context of the game, I'm fine with it. Although I doubt there will be nudity in vanilla Skyrim (there will be a mod almost instantly for it anyways).

I would like to see my mage's skills be shown with gore added. I don't think burning to death or being frozen and shattered would be too pretty. I hope they did a big overhaul on their magic system, if they could improve on DAO visual magic effect while maintaining the diversity that tes has had, and kick some morrowind lore/quest in their.... well I'd probably not need to buy another game ever

well, i don't mind a medium amount of gore and some nudity.
There will be a better bodies type mod out fairly soon after release. If its anything like oblivion, there wont be a shortage of "advlt" mods for the people that want them.

I am still amazed that some consider depicting a character chopping off another character's head is considered "reasonable" in game play, while exposure to a briast is taboo! Might I add, expecially in an "M" rated game.

My opinion (not trying to govern your morality) is that, if story related, a little blood, or a little nudity in an "M" rated game could artistically add atmosphere to a particular scene. In my thinking, maturity is a condition, or mind set, not a specific age. I have been in war, and I have seen living human beings turned to bloody bits. I have also been exposed to "shudder" briasts. Somehow, I felt that exposure to the briasts was a much "lesser evil."


Regardless of what we say here, TES devs will do what they will do. I doubt our thread comments will change much of their game design ideas.

Gore, sure if its not overly done. not fond of bloody mess. Nudity, no. i dont have a need to look a pixalated women.

It is interesting to see how much of this actually went into the game. We cannot yet be certain about nudity, but they definitely added some better combat and tasteful gore that isn't throw up sick.

I want realistic gore and nudity

cause to be honest I have lived through 6 wars and gore is not so shocking to me its just realistic (of course I hate it who likes hurting stuff anyways???)

and nudity... well lets just say I know how people look like under those cloths and it does not bother me to see naked people in my bed or in public (I studied art and naked models were plenty :hubbahubba: :wub: )

so I hope the game is for a mature audience who just does not freak out when seeing things that are perfectly natural, oh where are the ancient cultures when u need them :read:

Extended remarks:

The devs have indicated that Skyrim will be a dark and gritty environment.

I watch The Game of Thrones a lot, and it reminds me a little of how I would like Skyrim to be, an interesting story, with raw, dark, and gritty environments.

A mature themed game, crafted in a world similar to The Game of Thrones television series, but with the Elder Scrolls artistic touch.

From what I have seen to date, TES is headed in the right direction for theme.

Finishing moves are not for TES...

Put a Toggle option so parents wont complain......you know with Fox picking on Portal 2 >.>
cutting up bodies and seeing my enemy naked looted body just adds to the game but its not a big deal imo

The level of blood was fine in Oblivion (& it looks to be more apparent in Skyrim anyway) However, I wish nudity would make it in by default since it adds another level of immersion to the world.


Plastered on undergarments simmers down the medieval setting all around you. Nudity helps show the pitiful condition of slaves, the lustful sin of a greedy tyrant, the evil temptation of a succubus daedra, etc.

TES has always had this realistic sense, despite the completely made-up world and environment and that's what I always thought was incredible about it; how the developers literally made up an entirely new world, added law and order, and groups willing to uphold those laws or break them. It was a very realistic addition to games, and I think that is what made Oblivion so playable. On that note, there were a few things that were very unrealistic about Oblivion. First thing that comes to mind is the Imperial Guards finding you out of nowhere. Even though you might commit and act of violence or theft, I don't see HOW you are wanted and known across the entire country. It would make sense if your face was publicized but there is just no way, so I think you should have an individual bounty in each city, it would make more sense that way as the guards would know who you are and what you've done in that city, not a neighboring one.

One more thing that I found unrealistic was definitely the gore. How you could endless flail at someone's lifeless body to not see any realistic wounds or dismemberments. Albeit, dismembering isn't all that important to me but I would love to see blood and perhaps a gash or wound at the site of where I struck them. For example, if I were to stab someone in the leg, I would expect to see them limp, blood dripping from the wound, and the wound itself, not a splatter of blood in a random place like in Oblivion. As far as that goes, I think the three options of gore are fair for all levels of players. No one would complain as everyone would get what they ask for.

As for six and nudity, I think both add another realistic aspect to the game, but I wouldn't be too disheartened to not see either of them in-game. Though I would put intimacy on top of nudity... I like Mass Effects style of doing things, as the preemptive and following dialogue of the scene is incredibly realistic. As OP posted a link to a scene http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNixoKm9T7w, I think that is so close to real-life situations. I mean, you can actually feel and see the feelings she has towards Shepard and how she acts shows it. I've seen this numerous times in real life and to put this in-game would add such a deep element to it and would redefine TES, in a good way of course. When it comes to nudity, I don't really care. It'd be nice to see the women ;) but if it stayed the same as Oblivion, I wouldn't care too much.

Funny, the first thing that comes to mind when I see Bioware's six scenes is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvdlvNdVI-I

I think both can be good if used in the right places and in a fitting manner. I also support a toggle option for those that don't want it in.

I think The Witcher 2 showed that you can have tasteful nudity in a game in places where it fits, and to me having nudity in a mature game in context of story elements/characters is fitting. If I want to play a Conan like Nord, I think seeing nudity would be part of his character.

I really think that they should just have their set style of "gore", which is quite moderate... You can't tailor a game to every single need and want... Just do a minor touch-up of Oblivion's system and I'd be happy...

If Skyrim had no clothes on the base character models there would be an uproar for about 5 minutes and then afterward noone will care. It is not like BGS has all of the NPCs running around without clothes on.

About the six part: Okay, so by six I guess you mean actually seeing it, not like how Fable did it (black screen, and just voices and sounds, no visual stuff).

And i'm fine with the way the gore was, I honestly don't care for it much but if it's a feature in there, there's no reason to just waste it (unless you're trying to protect your ever AGING kids from seeing what the old days were possibly like), but just don't make it to where it's like Fallout. Seemed far too unreal, Oblivion, seemed more down to earth, even though it takes place on another planet and such. Even what i've seen in Skyrim demos so far seem realistic, so it's all good with me.

For me stuff like this (Violence, Gore, Nudity, Romance,etc.) are perfectly fine even in extreme cases if and only if it makes the story better in some way. For example show me an overlord cutting the hand of his subjects or something like that and it will bring the story to a new level, a dark one no doubt but it helps the story. Same goes for other stuff, nudity , romance. If I'm going to be married in game it sure as hell doesn't mean I want to settle, I want it to be like a companion kinda deal only more engaging via romance, etc.

So yes to all of this but make it help don't put it there without reason. While I still enjoyed Fallout 3 despite the gore, I always found it a bit without purpose.

The excessive gore in Fallout games was always part of the black humor. I remember getting Fallout back in the day and cracking up over the cutesy Vault boy cartoons depicting horrific bodily damage in the manual and perk descriptions. That vault boy sure was a trooper though, always had a smile on his face even while being dismembered.

lol, I know what you mean :spotted owl:

I may have come off a bit to classy, since I will admit that I did break a smile once or twice in F3 at the gore and such. Its only afterwards that I felt its misplacement.

Best part of F3:

Your grandma asks you to shoot someone what do you do?

Ask grandma for a mini-gun, after all you wouldn't want to miss :fallout:

I know but you will see when you look in its good?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Too bad for you they are in the game. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . < .............> > > adfae5432 (Jerk with you're . . .) p.s. ... pp.s lol


MY BRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it hurts to read.

Don't care, although I doubt Bethesda wants to limit its audience (we all know a ton of 12-17 year olds play these games, and moms don't like dismemberment/nudity).

...Portal 2?

What did I miss?

There ought to be blood, but I don't think every body should be in a large pool of blood.

If you can strip people of their clothes(which we can), then you might as well be able to see one thing or another.

I think they should add dismemberment if isn't something too hard/long, they would probably have to add a toggle or some people would complain a lot. I don't think every person should have have an arm or leg flying around. . .

No six scenes. . .it's poorly done and I don't think -most- people would even like it as an addition(most likely skip it too). A waste of time that could be spent on other things

I don't think these things would be much of an issue for people, you have to be 17+ (in US) to buy it and it IS a game where you go around KILLING people, but I guess there are people with some odd . . .(the word escapes me atm :facepalm:)

- - - Just my thoughts. . .