The Gun Runner's Arsenal PredictionSpeculation Thread

Post » Wed May 09, 2012 9:59 am

I hope this means I can suppress That Gun. :o
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kristy dunn
 
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 3:27 am

I hope for a 25mm rifle. Kinda like a Gauss/AMR anologue for the Explosives skill.

A unique AMR would be cool.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:42 am

I'm not sure if I've said this before or not, but I'll say it just in case; I hope we get a scopeless Energy Rifle with high HP and a good 3rd person zoom!

Is that too much to ask for?! A scopeless Energy Rifle that's as durable as a Gun? :cryvaultboy:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 5:57 am

I'm not sure if I've said this before or not, but I'll say it just in case; I hope we get a scopeless Energy Rifle with high HP and a good 3rd person zoom!

Is that too much to ask for?! A scopeless Energy Rifle that's as durable as a Gun? :cryvaultboy:
Yeah, we got it.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:49 pm

The Chinese could have made a modernized version of the ppsh41 or ppsh43 and than later being found in the hands of the communist resistance in the USA.

My question for all gun nuts here, what is in general considered the best rifle of these, the kar98k, mosin-nagant, springfield or the endfield?
That's a sticky question, as they are all fine designs. First things first, though: the M1903 is basically the same design as the Mauser. So much so they had patent issues and had to pay royalties to Mauser. The bolt action ([censored] on open), the extractor, the number and position of locking lugs, etc.. make these essentially the same rifle when discussing which one's better. I'll try to break it down for you:

1. Mauser. The greatest majority of modern bolt action hunting rifles are based at least in some part on the Mauser [censored] on open bolt design with the large claw extractor and Mauser's magazine design. If you're going by how many successful rifles copycatted the Mauser design, then it's the best.

2. Lee-Enfield. James Paris Lee, and american of Scot descent designed a magazine system that the Royal armory at Enfield adopted with their successful Lee-Metford. One of the main features of the Enfield design was that opposed to most of the other bolt actions out there, it was a [censored] on close design. This enables a slightly faster cocking cycle. Couple this with the superior magazine that Lee designed, which held twice the rounds that others of the time did, and you had a weapon that could provide superior sustained rates of fire. If this is what you feel is important, then the Enfield is the best.

3. Mosin-Nagant. This bolt design goes back, IIRC to the Chaffee-Reese rifle. Mosin, a Russian officer designed the rifle with element of Belgium designer Nagant's included. This bolt design was very streamlined with less parts than the other two rifles. Disassembly was easier. So true to Russian/Soviet design philosophy, it's a pretty rugged rifle that is easy to learn and maintain. It uses a magazine much like the Mannlicher style, and in general the craftsmanship on the rifles was less than that of their counterparts in Germany and England. This does not make it a bad rifle, and if low cost and ease of manufacture, maintnenance and trainging are important to you, then the Mosin is the best.

Of all the rifles of that period, none of them are what I believe is the best rifle. To me, that would be the M1917, an Enfield design that American factories produced in WWI when Springfield could not make enough rifles for the demand. There were twice as many M917's in the hands of American soldiers in Europe during WWI than Springfields. This design was intended to replace the Lee-Enfield, with a more Mauser like design, but some improvements. The bolt half-cocked on open and fully cocked on close, so it's action was almost as smooth as the Enfield, and with the more robust locking lugs and extractor of the Mauser style it was an improvement over the Enfield. The only drawback, as I see it was the lack of a windage adjustable rear sight. The war came too quickly for the Enfield armory to tool up, so they kept the Lee-Enfield and the rest you know. The two american factories that had already received the tooling to make the rifles on contract offered the rifle, rechambered from the British .303 to the American .30-06 (which allowed it to hold one more round in the mag, since .30-06 aren't rimmed like .303) to the American government to ease the shortage of M1903s. So the rifle you thought the US fought WWI with, was in fact the wrong rifle. The Marines only used M1903s, but the Army mainly used M1917s.

Edit: The censored words are in fact not something that should be censored in this case. Please insert the word spelled c-o-c-k where the [ censored ] tags are. That would be as in "When you open the bolt on a Mauser, it c-o-c-k-s the action."

-Gunny out.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 8:29 am

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I may be wrong, but doesn't the Enfield have a lot of kick in it?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:25 pm

Both the K98 family and SMLE are pretty punishing. 8mm Mauser and .303 Brit pushing back on your shoulder through a metal butt plate.

EDIT: I prefer the Mauser action to the Lee-Enfield's, not that anyone asked.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:29 pm

Both the K98 family and SMLE are pretty punishing. 8mm Mauser and .303 Brit pushing back on your shoulder through a metal butt plate.

EDIT: I prefer the Mauser action to the Lee-Enfield's, not that anyone asked.
Well in that case, how would the Springfield's power compare to the mauser. (I'm not really sure what exactly the .30-03/06 rounds are like.)
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 5:20 am

I may be wrong, but doesn't the Enfield have a lot of kick in it?
They all have a lot of kick. These are full sized battle rifle rounds we're talking here. British .303, Russian 7.62x54R, German 7.92x57JS and Americn .30-06 all have very similar power, loads and bullet weights. There may be a slight edge to the .30-06, since in most loadings it has a slightly higher muzzle velocity than the other three rounds. But basically, all the nominally .30 caliber full sized rounds are for all intents and purposed interchangable as far as performance when compared to rounds of dissimilar size.

Both the K98 family and SMLE are pretty punishing. 8mm Mauser and .303 Brit pushing back on your shoulder through a metal butt plate.

EDIT: I prefer the Mauser action to the Lee-Enfield's, not that anyone asked.
Gee, I wonder why? :wink_smile: I do prefer the better locking system of the Mauser designs. I've seen way too many old Enfields with the rear locking lugs impinging on the receiver. You've got to be careful and have your Enfield checked before you first fire it.

-gunny out.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:52 pm

They all have a lot of kick. These are full sized battle rifle rounds we're talking here. British .303, Russian 7.62x54R, German 7.92x57JS and Americn .30-06 all have very similar power, loads and bullet weights. There may be a slight edge to the .30-06, since in most loadings it has a slightly higher muzzle velocity than the other three rounds. But basically, all the nominally .30 caliber full sized rounds are for all intents and purposed interchangable as far as performance when compared to rounds of dissimilar size.

-gunny out.
What I meant was more than the others, as it could affect which one is better.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 3:28 am

What I meant was more than the others, as it could affect which one is better.
Not in my experience. Of all the WWI/WWII rifles I'd say that the Japanese Type 99 in 7.7mm has the most felt recoil. That thing kicks like a mule.

-Gunny out.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:40 am

Gee, I wonder why? :wink_smile:
I have both (a K98k and a LE No. 4 Mk. I), I just prefer the feel of the Mauser's action. I don't like the resistance/stiff movement when closing the LE's action. That could just be my rifle, though.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 10:11 pm

Not in my experience. Of all the WWI/WWII rifles I'd say that the Japanese Type 99 in 7.7mm has the most felt recoil. That thing kicks like a mule.

-Gunny out.
I is learn stuff today. :hehe:

Luckily in video games, the bruising of your shoulder isn't taken into effect, typically (as I am unaware of one that might).
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:32 am

I have both (a K98k and a LE No. 4 Mk. I), I just prefer the feel of the Mauser's action. I don't like the resistance/stiff movement when closing the LE's action. That could just be my rifle, though.
I knew you had the Mauser, but I didn't know you'd picked up the Enfield. Any other intersting additions to the collection?

-Gunny out.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 7:43 am

im speaking on behalf of everyone here unique HUNTING RIFLE
isnt this machine supposed to be one?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:46 pm

My pesonal preference is the Mosin.
Just 'cause of that Finnish Sniper in WW-2 who killed over 100 russian soldiers using only iron sights.

Simo H?yh? used a Model 28/30 Civil Guard rifle...not your garden variety Moisin. He had 505 confirmed sniper kills, and another 200 with a SMG, before he was wounded.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:17 am

I've never fired an 8mm Mauser, but my old No.1 MK3 SMLE had fairly tame recoil; the M44 Mosin isn't all that bad either, despite the reputation. Granted, I fire 12 gauge slugs out of a Coach Gun, which really knock you around in such a light gun; most things are pleasant in comparison (the muzzle blast and smoke is worth it now and again though).
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 11:41 pm

isnt this machine supposed to be one?
It is a Battle Rifle, and supposedly we will see the generic battle rifle in GRA.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:37 pm

Both the K98 family and SMLE are pretty punishing. 8mm Mauser and .303 Brit pushing back on your shoulder through a metal butt plate.

EDIT: I prefer the Mauser action to the Lee-Enfield's, not that anyone asked.
Now i ask you, what is you're favourite firearm? :foodndrink:
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:04 pm

im speaking on behalf of everyone here unique HUNTING RIFLE

I couldn't agree more :thumbsup:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 6:44 am

I want these :hubbahubba: :
- http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/machine/mg10/bren_mk1-2.jpg
- http://lanparty.cil.nu/cil/cod5/themes/Gehaktdag/images/weapons/cod5/ptrs41_mp.png
- http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/tmp_dropzone_800px_xm8_final_version-tfb.jpg (Fully Auto w/ Scope)
- http://www.cherrys.com/pedpics/s320b.jpg :hubbahubba:
- http://www.digitalbusstop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Lightsaber.jpg :wink_smile:
- http://dev.phoenixnetworks.net/staging/gear/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/m4s90tac.jpg
- http://images.wikia.com/worldsofsdn/images/3/3f/SMG_view_enlongated.jpg
- http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8d/Rpg-7.jpg
- http://www.gadgetreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/wolverine-claws.jpg :spotted owl:
- http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/8/18/mipoisondartg128635547001529287.jpg :rofl:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 8:08 am

That reminds me, I hope the weapons aren't all modern stuff, I would like to see guns from different times, and it'd be interesting to see how they could implemnt a steampunk-esque gun :drool:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 6:57 am

Again, still hoping for a drill fist a la Bioshock. It'd be the perfect tribute, and the mods could be the Power to the People upgrades.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 9:31 am

Again, still hoping for a drill fist a la Bioshock. It'd be the perfect tribute, and the mods could be the Power to the People upgrades.
:rofl:
That'd be wicked! I can see the attack animations now... :laugh:
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 4:02 am

After all of the complaints, I bet we get an assault rifle silencer (And hopefully a red dot sight) :disguise:
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