The Havok System : V

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:31 pm

This is amazing, truly. http://www.havok.com/index.php?page=havok-behavior is a link to the http://www.havok.com/index.php?page=havok-behavior This will help out tremendously in production of Skyrim saving a lot of time. You know what that means. A much better game! I'm really glad this program exist.

Edit - Sorry for not being specific this thread is about havok behavior. Taking away to script the animations of the NPCs and PCs. Watch the video it's really well done. I'm almost certain they didn't have havok behavior in oblivion only physics. If someone can prove me wrong go ahead.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:47 pm

Oblivion did use Havok.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:53 am

Oblivion did use Havok.

Havok Physics. Not Havok Behavior.

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:40 am

Havok Physics. Not Havok Behavior.

^right^

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:15 pm

Are you on about the new behaviour thing?

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:27 am

Havok Behaviour was not in any major game yet, until now of course. From the video preview on their website, it looks really good!

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:31 am

And I'm pretty sure Tom's right. I haven't heard of any games using Havok Behavior yet. It's brand new and it looks gorgeous.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:53 pm

Watching that Havok Behavior promo video makes me highly hopeful that we now have diagonal movement animations.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:59 am

If you look at the videos at the havok page then you can see that havok behaviour also supports animation of clothes!

The video "Retargeting Blending" shows cloth physics.

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Hopefully they implement this in Skyrim too!

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:06 am

That clip looks like the Project Offset enemies.

I have a sad now

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:38 pm

Isn't that Euphoria better? Perhaps I'm wrong. I'm not sure.

It's hard to judge from the video on that website.
Still, Uncharted 2 used Havok, right? And their animations were really good.

I guess if Todd said it was the best, it's the best. I hope so, would be amazing

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:09 am

That's some pretty good stuff. Who needs Euphoria when you can have this.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:37 am

I was kinda hoping they would be using Euphoria, as we have already seen that in a couple of games (Force Unleashed, GTA4 & Red Dead Redemption) with great success. It it simply an amazing animation-engine. Hopefully Havok Behavior does the same either equally as good or better. If it does it worse it will show because other already got awesomeness.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:06 am

Anyone else watch the destruction videos on havok's website? That and the dragons being able to attack villages makes me hope for destructible environments. :celebration:

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:01 pm

http://www.havok.com/index.php?page=showcase

About half way through the video it shows the on-NPC cloth animations. Cloaks a possibility!

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:58 am

That clip looks like the Project Offset enemies.

I have a sad now

project offset did use havok so maybe

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:06 am

Are Havok Destruction & Cloth included ???

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:28 pm

I like what I've read so far on the Behavior system. I hope BGS has something similar to the Havoc Physics engine in as well. It sounds good I can't wait for more updates.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:46 pm

Are Havok Destruction & Cloth included ???

We'll have to wait and see... I would assume so since those are apart of the video demos for "havok behavior"

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:53 am

Well we know they are using havok behavior, I don't know if they'll have included with that the havok cloth system. I really hope they do.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:03 am

Well from what I can find, only one game has used the Havok Behavior program before Skyrim and that's something called "Kung-fu Rider". So let's find some videos of it's animations and see what that games animators did with it. Of course it won't be for sure a good comparison because they could have bad animators or insanely good, we just won't know.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:34 am

Havok can only be improved since Oblivion. I have faith it'll work just fine

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:39 pm

Animation blending is an amazing idea.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:05 am

Well from what I can find, only one game has used the Havok Behavior program before Skyrim and that's something called "Kung-fu Rider".

That game is honestly one of the worst pieces of **** I have ever played! :yucky:

You simply mentioning that game in relation to Skyrim fills me up with chills of fear.

» Sat May 28, 2011 7:43 am

Guys, "Havok" is just a brand name. There are at least two distinct Havok products going into Skyrim: The physics engine most commonly associated with the Havok brand, and this new animation blending apparatus called "Behavior". Two entirely different beasts, though the might be modular with each other when their purviews overlap.