http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/03/21/the-hobbit-starts-filming/



It may just finally be happening.

I wonder what the chances of Part 1 being out before the end of 2012 are? Are they still filming it in two parts?

From what I have read, yes it is still in tow parts. Part one is bascially the Hobbit, while Part II I am not sure, something about "The Necromancer". The only "Necromancer" I know of is in GW games of Lord of the Rings. So not sure if this is it or not.

When I read Hobbit, first thing I thought of was http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE-1RPDqJAY.

The Necromancer's dungeon is where Gandalf finds Thorin's key. And it's where he disapears off to in the middle of The Hobbit.


As long as Peter Jackson and shield-surfing, elves at helms deep, oliphant surfing type stuff I'll be happy. But The Hobbit is my favourite book, so It's be hard to please me.

Yessssssssssss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

That made my day. Hell yes, that's fantastic!

I really hope that they take awhile to make this and not go with the current flow of movies and how they are being released by the dozens. Take your time Peter Jackson! Make it the biggest thing since Lord of the Rings! PLEASE!!!

It's Peter Jackson... it's only ready when he feels it's perfect. :thumbsup:

Great news! Can't wait to see this one.

The Necromancer was an evil sorcerer that Gandalf had to leave the group to deal with. And Lord of the Rings reveals he was Sauron.


I dunno...I haven't seen it, but his last movie, The Lovely Bones, got absolutely trashed in reviews. That, I didn't care too much for his version of King Kong. :shrug:

That's mostly because it's based on a not-so-great novel. Direction was fine.

His King Kong was great, at least to me. Really captured what was grand about the original, and updated it. Even Jack Black wasn't as bad a choice as everybody dreaded. Brody's nose though...

I dont remember seeing that in TLoTR.

Also I dont like this idea of it being Frodo reading about Bilbos adventure, I dont now why it was done that way but it annoys me.

It was longer than it had any right to be, full of a ton of unnecessary characters, and action scenes that were just so overdone. There's probably a good film in there, but it has so much fat that needs trimming.


I was talking about the books. The Necromancer isn't mentioned at all in the films.

As for the framed narrative, it kinda' makes sense. The Hobbit book has a much different tone than The Lord of the Rings, and much of that is attributed to the fact that both had different in-universe writers. The former was written by Bilbo, whose adventure made him much less of a stickler (hence its lighthearted feel), while the latter was written by Frodo, who had grown solemn when his quest was over (hence its darker feel). It also was used to explain some of the inconsistencies and retcons between the two books.

Books, not movies. It's confirmed (by Gandalf himself, IIRC) in the first book that

Wasn't mentioned in the movies to cut down on viewer confusion, I assume, since they started filming with LotR and not The Hobbit.



Makes sense, though. In LotR, Bilbo spent a lot of his time post-The Hobbit writing down his adventures and turning them into a proper book (...basically, the implication here is that the actual text of The Hobbit that we all have is supposed to be the story Bilbo wrote down). Said book eventually winds up in Frodo's hands. (Can't remember off the top of my head if Bilbo gave it to him before leaving for Rivendell, or at some point after.)

So...why shouldn't Frodo read it? :shrug:

For those who have read The Hobbit, can it really be done in a 2 hour movie, or will it be close to 3 hours again?

There will be two movies.

We know there will be 2 movies. The 2nd movie has nothing to do with the Hobbit. What I was asking can the Hobbit actually be done in a 2 or 3 hour movie properly? I am thinking maybe not a 2 hour movie but close to a 3 hour movie like we got with Fellowship of the Ring.

Part 2 is just last chance money grabber for the Franchise. It will be good for those who play the Lord of the Rings miniture game that Games Worshop provides, so I am interested in that. Thing is Part I is suppose to be a complete movie, no to be continued or anything like that. So do you think it will be closer to 2 hours or like the other ones, 3 hours, and then about 4 hours on DVD when the extended version is released.

Where did you get this from? I thought Part 1 was, I don't know, half of the hobbit, and part 2 would be the other half.

I read a few articles about 2 years ago. Also on the Warseer forum for Lord of the Rings, I got alot of information from thier as well. The general consensus is that Part One is The Hobbit, and Part Two will tie in things together like the Necromancer.

Games Work shop has a suppliement called Return of the Necromancer for us to play with. I am not sure if that is what the movie can be like or not.

Of course all this is rumour and we don't know for sure. I am not sure if Peter Jackson knows for sure since he just started filming, things can change when he puts everything togehter. I guess the only thing we know is, that he is filming both movies at the same time.

All I am saying is don't be surprised if Part I is just The Hobbit and Part II is to tie things up between the Hobbit and Fellowship of the Ring. Alot of people are upset at Part II because it will be mostly PJ's vision and not Tolkins since he didn't make a book for it.

*edit* Just reread a bit, and I think the movie is going to be ruined a bit because it is also going to be in 3D. :shakehead:

Awesome, good news. Can't wait till it's done.
Also, for the people wondering, The Hobbit is broken up into 2 screenplays, part 1 and 2. Part 2 isn't a different story, there's just so much in the book that he didn't want to cut stuff, said in an interview you can find on youtube. It's kind of like Deathly Hallows part 1 and 2. Same thing, just 2 parts.

It's been pretty well confirmed that The Hobbit's story itself will be split into two parts, and will also include stuff from the White Council and Gandalf's dealing with the Necromancer in Dol Goldur.

Also, from Wiki:

Words cannot express how stoked I am for this, although I'm not too sure how I feel about them making it a two part, one following Bilbo and the second following the White Council. Tolkien mentioned what the White Council did but didn't write enough to make a movie out of it, so I'm guessing it's going to be left up to Peter Jackson to "make up" a good portion of what we'll be seeing, and we all know http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ZoNG-yVu0 when he does that.

Well, you seem more informed than me. What I heard is, they are splitting it but also adding some extra bits and extending events of that time which sounds it can be 2 movies of worth. Hobbit story is vast and there is an opportunity to end first movie in The Fellowship of the Ring style with 3 close escapes back to back.

Smaug only can make more than half of one movie easily. So my guess is two 2 hour movies. It plays well with 3D restrictions too.

Maybe you are correct then. I can see them splitting it up into 2 parts. If they didn't I can't see people coming back if it's not "official" Tolken, come to think of it now. I will be watching it on non 3D hopefully.

exciting stuff!