Sure New Vegas is an improvement over Fallout 3, that's a given. But what happens onwards? Every game made in 2 years to learn and correct the mistakes of the previous? I'd rather wait a bit longer to get a polished and well thought out product that feels fresh, than a rushed rehash I feel I just played the day before - like some of the examples you gave (ME, Halo, Cod). :shrug:

And there is no word on if Obsidian will ever make another Fallout again (as much as I'd like to see their own take on it). So them keeping it up isn't something you should blindly rely on.

But by all means keep waiting a game every two years.

West, the previous posters are right. New Vegas is basically a huge FO3 expansion. The graphics are all the same and everything...

Avatar is the best selling film ever, shortly followed by Titanic.

Does that make them the best films ever made? How does Apocalypse Now compare? How about the Godfather? Seven? Are they worse films simply because they sold less? Or is it the content which makes them good films. I dont think there are many people who would think Titanic holds a candle to these films, and Avatar isnt much better either. (it was fun to watch, and graphically stunning. But it offered nothing new)


And as Decaf said, the games you listed are perfect examples of games stagnating. GTA4 was a dissapointment when you came from playing all the previous games, as so much of the content had been removed. Halo, Halo never changed. Its been exactly the same every release since the first instalment. Mass Effect had half of what made it great removed for the second instalment. COD and GOW are fun for what they give, fastpaced action, but i would never consider them great games. They dont push the boundaries on anything.

maybe so, they could be right, but they were all prob saying that right after fallout 3 came out and here we have new vegas in the next few months, i could be wrong but it does seem that the fallout franchise is alive and strong with lots of new people who never played a fallout game before fallout 3 including me, i was playing oblivion when fallout 3 came out,, fallout 3 was just the beginning for bethesda with the fallout franchise. :talk:

I'd guess the next fallout to be 2013, doubt it will be later than 2014. TES V has probably been in development for a few years now. I wouldn't be surprised if they've already started the engine work for F4 (possibly an upgraded or same engine from TES V). Beth Soft is large enough to be working on both simultaneously (even if the overlap is only a year are two and the dedicated staff for TES V is 5:1 matched for the prelim. fallout 4 devs.) My guess is TES V will be out Q4 2011-Q4 2012

4 years atleast. 2010- new vegas. So then they make new fo engine that takes atleast 4 years to make. so it will probably be at earlest by 2014, when the fo4 comes. If the fo:new vegas will be succesfull(from the preorder numbers, it will be), then probably there will be 2016, next fo4 stand alone game. And then again, four year "break"..

But i think it will be come 2015. But hopefully they will give us some relieve from fallout addiction, by releasing addons in 2011 to fo:new vegas. :foodndrink:

Lol. That is a good joke. :rofl: :clap: Losing interest..in fallout.. :confused: Thats impossible. B)

I wouldnt get bored, even they would make new fallout game every year. :fallout: :celebration:

Thank you for putting words in our mouths to suit your argument but I can assure you none of us were saying another Fallout game wouldn't be coming out in two years after Fallout 3. Because at that time, another Fallout game could only be Fallout 4, and nobody in their right mind would think FO4 would come out 2 years later. Nobody expected Bethesda to let Obsidian make another Fallout game. And New Vegas will be able to come out 2 years later because it's essentially a gigantic expansion. Another gigantic Fallout 3 expansion coming out in another two years wont work, for the reasons I already listed.

TES V>FO4, it's simple logic. FO fans are more than happy with 2 games in a 3 year period, it's been 4, almost 5 years since we got one.

I'd imagine that Bethesda already has some groundwork set for 4. I'll guess at 5 years maximum.
New Vegas will probably keep up busy enough that it'll seem like just a couple years.

If it did take more time to pop out a 4, I'd hope that they were using the time to up the experience and eliminate bugs/glitches.

you think its gonna be 5 years too, seriously, bethesda has made one fallout game and that was 2 years ago, and you think its gonna be 7 years between fallout 3 and fallout 4 ? that doesn't line up at all with pete hines comments. >>["Pete Hines: We're very serious about bringing Fallout back to the forefront of RPGs in a major way. ] now you think 7 years between fallout 3 and fallout 4 is them bringing back fallout to the forefront of RPG's in a major way? fallout 3 was like a beggining game for bethesda with the fallout series and i just don't see them waiting 7 years between fallout 3 and fallout 4, the groundworkd for fallout 4 is prob already laid, i see fallout 3 as a starter game for bethesda in the fallout series and nothing more, its hardly the pinnacle for a fallout game by bethesda, future fallout games are going to be vastly superior to fallout 3 and its beginning with new vegas. i just don't see them going, ok fallout was good now lets wait 7 years to make another one, fallout is too huge a success to let it linger like that, the very fact obsidian started working on new vegas less than a year after fallout 3 came out is kinda obvious they are taking the series to another level, the coming fallout games are gonna blow away fallout 3.

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I give up. Have fun having your hopes crushed when Fallout 4 isn't released until 2013 or later.

i don't think you realize how huge a success fallout 3 was, way more popular than the previous fallouts, or any of bethesda's other games, and i ain't worried about it, so far we will have had two fallout games basically two years apart and that shows the direction bethesda is going with the series not to mention pete hines comments and todd howards comments conerning the series and and you and afew others seem to be in denial basically. the games are coming out, two games in two years so thats the bottom line. :grad:

The games of The Elder Scrolls series have, combined, made Bethesda many times more money than Fallout 3 has. Fallout 3 was a huge success but you seem to think that somehow Bethesda decided to be less rich then they could be. Why? Because they have two series that make them huge amounts of money, but in your dream world they've stopped caring about their most successful series in favor of focusing on their newer series. I hate to break it to you but Bethesda is a company and they want money, and they know the money is in The Elder Scrolls and Fallout. And, gasp, guess what, they've hired Obsidian to make a Fallout game! So what's missing... hmmm... lets see... The Elder Scrolls V? A title that is sure to make them as much, if not more, money than Fallout 3 made? Yes, I believe that makes a lot of sense.

Now I realize you've based your dream world on maybe one or two quotes from Bethesda saying they want to make Fallout a huge hit. Well, no duh they do, but that doesn't mean they are going to completely drop their most successful series to do so. They're letting Obsidian make a Fallout game so they can focus on TES V. I know you refuse to believe that and probably haven't even read my entire post but that's the way it's going to be, whether you like it or not.

@WestoftheRockies:

You keep repeating the same quote over and over again. When was this quote made?

It's the same sort of comment any Dev Studios Rep/Dev makes when hyping up a game/series. As proof that Fallout 4 will come before ESV it's as flimsy as a well used big of bog paper.


The Elder Scrolls is and has always been and always will be Bethesda's signiture series. They aren't going to throw it aside for a series SOMEBODY ELSE MADE. Also the idea of a Fallout game every two years is the most ridiculous idea I've ever heard. Even EA wasn't quite churning out Need For Speed games that quick and they still had to change the focus of the series to keep it fresh.

A Fallout game every two years would just stagnate the series.

What do you suppose Bethesda are doing while Obsidian make Fallout New Vegas? Does this not seem to be the perfect opportunity to work on a new TES? Working on a new Fallout while someone else is working on a new Fallout seems slightly... illogical. Its not the best way to maximise profts.

How does having two Fallout games in two years prove that the next game made is going to be a Fallout as well? Surely its an even stronger indicator that theyre going to go back to making their native series? Especially as theyve chosen not to make the most recent game themselves.


Are you sure you arent the one whose in denial? You seem to be the only one fighting this corner, so its either you or everyone else in this thread huh?

Look on the bright side.. we get a nice long stretch to mod the hell out of NV and FO3, just like over in the Morrowwind and Oblivion forums.

They can take five years easy for my part before coming out with FO4, I'll keep myself entertained until then.

Besides, imagine what the game might like, with five years of extra advancments in gaming brought to the table :drool:

I'll wait

you're basically saying bethesda has made an announcement and said it will be 5 years for another falllout game after new vegas, the bottom line is pete hines said this>>>] Pete Hines: We're very serious about bringing Fallout back to the forefront of RPGs in a major way.] we will have had 2 fallout games in a 2 year span and for some reason you're assuming they are gonna take 5 years off from fallout after new vegas, stop announcing its gonna be 5 years for another fallout game after new vegas, thats certainly not anything bethesda has said, todd howard did say however "not to be looking for another ES games anytime soon" that was late last year he said that, but concerning fallout, they said they bought the franchise in order to develop it and work on it and to bring fallout to the forefront of RPG's in a major way. and thats not made up, thats actually what pete hines and todd howard have said.

They haven't said anything otherwise either.

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the bottom line is we have 2 fallout games in a 2 year period and bethesda is obviously putting great effort into that series and i don't see a 7 year period between fallout 3 and fallout 4, just because a few people here on forum are so conviced its gonna be 7 years between fallout 3 and fallout 4 doesn't mean thats gonna happen, the fact that we have 2 fallout games in 2 years, which will both be massive successes, i seriously doubt its gonna be 5 years till the next fallout game. maybe if new vegas is a flop but that ain't gonna happen. some people are talking from an emotional point of view and wanting ESV so bad you're ignoring the huge success fallout 3 was and how bethesda is having obsidian now also work on the series, that should be telling you something. the writing is on the wall.

Please stop using the same quota over and over again it reduces the validity of you argument also post a link to this quota also TES V has to come out BEFORE Fallout 4

when you find a bethesda statement where they say they're taking a 5 year break from fallout let me know, and just because a few fanatics think its gonna be a 5 year hiatus with fallout after new vegas doesn't mean thats gonna happen, what is a FACT is that bethesda will have made 2 smashing success fallout games in a 2 year period and thats a fact so if you think they are gonna follow up that with a 5 year lay off thats your opinion, bethesda will definately follow up with fallout 4 in the near future, and by near future, it ain't gonna be 5 years, this isn't the ES series where they pretty much did all they could with that for a while, bethesda is so into the fallout series they brought in obsidian, what does that say about their commitment to fallout, so i'm dealing with facts, not made up announcements about bethesda waiting 5 years after new vegas to make another fallout game. that some talk from people who are upset that ESV isn't out yet, well that series lasted a long time for bethesda, you shouldn't be complaining, you're all bent out of shape because bethesda revived the fallout franchise and is putting most of their efforts into that series.

I’m not disputing that there will be a fallout 4 game in the next 3 years (if they have already started) but if you notice I never mentioned 5 years so shh and I will be pissed if TES V doesn’t come out in the next two years

Yep, I knew it.

Look, basing your entire theory of "A Fallout every 2 years for the rest of eternity" on two or so quotes said by the owners of Fallout, saying they want Fallout to be big, is cute and everything, but I and the other "fanatics" have been using actual logic when arguing with you, something you seem to not be doing yourself. Bethesda took 4 years to make Fallout 3, and it's been 4 and a half years since Oblivion. Bethesda takes anywhere from a year or two to announce a game after releasing it. This means that if Bethesda has been working on TES V since Oblivion, and they announced it right this second, by the time it was released it would have been in development for 5-6 years. Based on that, if you take 5-6 years and assume Fallout 4 will also take that long, and add it to 2008, you get 2013-2014, the dates I and the other "fanatics" have been giving you for this entire thread. Fallout 4 will not come out in 2012, that is so far from being possible that it's laughable. Logic says that we wont see Fallout 4 until 2013 or later. I suggest you start following logic instead of taking two quotes from Bethesda and blowing them completely out of proportion.

Of course, you probably haven't even read this post either. :shakehead:

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Yep, I knew it.


you're out to lunch on this. fallout 3 is the best selling bethesda game of all time and hugely more popular than fallout 1 and 2 combined and has made loads more money then all the other fallout games put together and bethesda even has obsidian working on the series. so you just can't see the writing on the wall, a game a massively succesful as fallout 3 has been is gonna keep getting lots of attention because people like the post apocalyptic atmosphere, its a pretty unique game and bethesda hit a grand slam with it and why you think they are gonna now wait 5 years to make fallout 4 is so far from reality its not even funny.