Anyone else worried that after new vegas we won't see fallout 4 for a long time? Anyone worried or think that elder scrolls v will come before fallout 4 which would mean probably a long time between vegas and 4? What do you see happening after vegas?

Fallout 4 will be after Vegas.

I am not worried about waiting a long time. For me a long time if 12 years. I had to wait 12 years for a Fallout Game to be on the West Coast again (New Vegas). I love Tactics but it's not on the west coast. Fallout 3 is great but has alot missing IMO. So if Fallout 4 is not out for another couple of years I am not going to complain. It should be worth the wait, new engine and hopefully well learned lessons from New Vegas will be included in FO4.

It would probably be better for the game if Beth go back to TES again for a bit, variety keeps the mind fresh. Staying with one thing for too long can result in a stagnant game.

If they go back to the elder scrolls before fallout 4 then I think we would be lookin at a good 5+ years until fallout 4.

Bethesda should do whatever story they feel ready to tell at the time - if its Fallout, TES, or something really funky like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadlands then thats fine by me.

Nothing's worse than trying to tell a stroy that's not quite ready to be told.

So? We'll have had 2 fallout games in short succession, and countless DLC. Do too much at once and you will ruin the magic. Im saying that from a creative perspective a change of scenery will be good, and will in turn hopefully result in a better game.
Plus its now been what, 8 years since a decent TES game was released. I think its their turn now

Hell, For all we know they may even continue to have Obsidian make Fallout games, while they do TES.

Considering elder scrolls iv is the best game in the series and one of the greatest games ever I'm not sure what you're talking about.

TES V will come out before Fallout 4, of this I'm extremely confident. I can't wait for Fallout 4, however TES fans have been waiting 4 years for a new TES game, while Fallout fans have been waiting... well, when New Vegas comes out the timer will be reset to 0 days, 0 hours and 0 minutes for a new Fallout game, as opposed to what will be 4 1/2 years TES fans have been waiting. TES V has had a lot more development time than Fallout 4 has and it wouldn't make much sense for it to be released, or even announced, before TES V.

I think it's safe to say we wont see Fallout 4 announced until 2013 or later. Release date would likely be 2014 or 2015, considering Bethesda always takes 1-2 years to release a game after announcing it.



You are entitled to your opinion but I wholly disagree with it. Why do you think it's the best, compared to Morrowind? Have you played Morrowind? If you say you can't or won't play Morrowind because of the graphics I'm sorry to say but I can't take your opinion seriously.

I agree. I dont think Fallout 4 should be in Production right away. i think Bethesda Should take a few years take fans Suggestions and Make TES V. im not a Tes fan but its true. TES fans have been waiting wat 5 years for a new game? tes game. And Us Fallout fans got 2 new fallout games inthe past 2 years. im Talking about Fo3 and F:Nv. So I'm Quite Satisfied with the wait. they shouldnt Rush great games. But dont get me wrong i am Very Exited to see what Fo4 will be like.

Oblivion was piss poor, packed full of ridiculous inane minigames, horrendous voiceacting, illogical 'roleplaying' options (head of the mage guild without learning a spell), a painfully linear story(with no actual indication of the impending doom which is supposedly occuring), horrible graphics for all NPCs(though the environments where very pretty), no dialogue system whatsoever(just lots of monologues), dumbed down skills, a dumbed down armour system. Hell, there wasnt really any roleplaying to be found. It was barely even an RPG, just an action adventure game set in a big ruleless word, It was essentially one big eLARP. ~Exactly what i dont want from a game claiming to be an RPG

There arent many games which ive physically thrown away. Oblivion is one of them. It was painful to play after so many hours packed into Morrowind.

I want to see what Beth do with the next TES game, after (re)learning their old talents after making Fallout 3.

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lol i got news for you, it ain't gonna be 5 years till fallout 4 , no way, do you ever read what pete hines and todd howard talk about concerning the fallout series, here's a pete hines quote ["Pete Hines: We're very serious about bringing Fallout back to the forefront of RPGs in a MAJOR way.] he also said they bought the franchise in order to develop it and work on it, now bethesda has made only one fallout game so far. and that was almost 2 years ago and you think they are gonna wait 5 more years till fallout 4. obviously you don't pay attention to their comments regarding the fallout series, making one fallout game every 7 years is not them bringing fallout to the forefront of RPG's in a major way. seriously, listen to some todd howard interviews on the fallout series, fallout 3 was just the beginning, its the tip of the icegerg,
:celebration: i bet a fallout game will come out every two years basically for a while, they'll have obsidian follow up new vegas but they themselves will make fallout 4 and its coming soon. it's prob gonna be two years or less after new vegas, everyone thinks fallout 3 is the pinnacle of bethesda's work on falout, NOT EVEN CLOSE. i knew when fallout 3 first came out that they would follow up with another fallout and they are, new vegas, they aren't dropping the ball here on the fallout series, fallout 3 was a massive success and so will new vegas be, why in the hell would they stop making fallout games now? :lightbulb:

I certainly hope not. They'll just burn out the franchise with that kind of strategy.

lol i don't think so, every two years is about right. where do you get the idea fallout is gonna burnout ? .game sales won't reflect that, fallout 3 was a massive success and new vegas will be a huge success, pete hines said they are "very serious about bringing fallout to the forefront of RPG's in a major way, so your comment doesn't line up with that statement one bit, i'm going with pete hines on this. :fallout:

Once again, do you really think Bethesda is willing to risk pissing off most of its fanbase with another Fallout game?

TESV will come out before Fallout 4.

Sales don't represent? How much time since last proper Fallout game? 12 years.

And isn't Fallout in there already, though. In the forefront in a major way. And New Vegas is coming. That's two almost identical (gameplaywise) games in a short while. If they start to spew them out like there's no tomorrow, people start losing interest. For Fallout 4, they need something fresh. Something that doesn't feel like a rehash. You can only sell one and the same thing for so many times.

A Fallout game every 2 years would indeed make people start being burnt-out and tired of Fallout. This isn't like a new FPS every 2 years, this is an RPG that can last you for months before you get tired of it. 2 years is far too quick for a new Fallout game. New Vegas is an exception because the vast majority of people who played Fallout 3 were first time players of the series and will of course be excited for another. But 3 Fallout games in 4 years would be too much for even the most die-hard fan.



They bought the franchise to make multiple games, this is true. However, they also have another series, called The Elder Scrolls. Now, I'm sure you've heard of it, but choose to ignore it's existence, which is understandable given the fact that you seem to have convinced yourself Bethesda is going to release a Fallout game every 2 years from now until the end of time. But let me tell you a few things. Bethesda's most successful series is The Elder Scrolls. It's the series that put them into the minds of gamers, and all of their Elder Scroll games, combined, have made much more money than Fallout 3. Gamers have been hungry for more TES since the last Oblivion DLC in 2007, and they know that TES V would make them a huge amount of money. They let Obsidian make New Vegas not because they plan on releasing Fallout 4 in 2012 and over-saturate the market, but because they wanted to give Fallout fans something to play while they focused on The Elder Scrolls. Oh, Fallout 4 will come eventually, but not before TES V, meaning, yes, as late as 2014 or 2015.

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A Fallout game every 2 years would indeed make people start being burnt-out and tired of Fallout. This isn't like a new FPS every 2 years, this is an RPG that can last you for months before you get tired of it. 2 years is far too quick for a new Fallout game. New Vegas is an exception because the vast majority of people who played Fallout 3 were first time players of the series and will of course be excited for another. But 3 Fallout games in 4 years would be too much for even the most die-hard fan.

two fallout games in a row kinda refutes your theory, and as far as burning out the series, the fans will decide that and fallout 3 games sales passed oblivion sales in the same time frame and so far new vegas has more pre game orders then fallout 3 did, bethesda has made one fallout game and you're talking about them burning the series out, whatever, but the bottom line is we will have two fallout games since 2008 and both of them will have been huge successes, pete hines and todd howard cleary stated fallout is a series they fully intend to work on in the coming near future and they are doing that, pete hines exact quote is "we are very serious about bringing fallout to the forefront of RPG'S in a major way, quite a few franchises are very successful and have games out every couple years and they aren't burning anyone out on those games, GTA, Mass Effect, Halo, COD, GOW. there's loads od franchises that do games every couple years and are going strong, but game sales it what decides that, not your opinion, so thats the bottom line,you might get burned out on fallout, but there are more and more new people still learning about fallout. there are new people now just playing fallout 3 for the first time in these forums, the series isn't in jeapordy of dying out anytime soon, people like post apocalyptic games, thats kinda whats hot right now, and not many games are post apocalyptic so the market isn't flooded, actually its the other way around, the market is flooded with midevil/fantasy type games.

They bought the franchise to make money. I think with them bringing Obsidion on board, it opens up new resources to keep both Oblivion and Fallout titles coming out without slowing down either one, much. Once Obsidion proves they are capable of turning out quality product, it would not surprise me in the least to see them take on more FO material while Beth focuses more on Oblivion. Sounds like a perfect marriage to me.

TES V will come first or the majority of their fan-base will be mad.



Edit: I totally agree with this quote...

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There's no sense talking to you when all you do is base your opinions on emotion rather than logic. All I've got to say is if you actually think Fallout 4 will be out by 2012 or even 2013 you will be sorely, sorely disappointed.

You still haven't answered my question.

Would Bethesda be willing to piss off most of its fanbase with another Fallout game, when it is time for a new TES game?

Yeah. Pushing it too hard leads to repetition and lower quality.

lower quality? new vegas is going to be a big improvement over fallout 3 and it will be a huge success,so i'm not sure what you are talking about, i don't think a fallout game every two years is gonna mean low quality, lots of franchises come out with games every two years and they are detailed games that aren't low quality by any stretch, all the games i mentioned already so not sure what you're talking about, and besides, bethesda isn't the only company making fallout games now, obsidian will prob follow up new vegas, all the facts support what i'm saying, the fans will buy the fallout games and the series won't get "burned out" or suffer from a lack of quality, thats all nonsense. in a period of 4 years we will have had two great fallout games, thats a game every two years, they aren't making two games in a 4 year period to just put the series on hold after that, that ain't even gonna happen, even if people like you don't want fallout 4 to come out soon it's not gonna matter, bethesda has revived the fallout series in amajor way and fallout 3 was game of the year and so any talk of low quality and burning the series out is nonsense to me.

That's not pushing and TES V will come or they'll be boycotted by tens of thousands of players.

You seem to have the mindset that making a Fallout game every two years is as simple as making an FPS game like Call of Duty or Halo every two years. It is not even close to that simple. Even Bioware that churns out a new Mass Effect or Dragon Age every year or so has it easier, because those games don't have the huge world and content that Fallout 3 had. Do you realize how huge Fallout 3 and New Vegas are? You can't simply churn out a game like that every two years and expect quality. The only reason New Vegas will be good is because they are using A LOT of resources from Fallout 3, and for all intents and purposes this is simply a gigantic expansion made to be a new game. If Obsidian had to start from scratch, there is no way in hell they could make something like New Vegas in two years. Hell, it took Bethesda 4 years to make Fallout 3, and if New Vegas had to be made from scratch, releasing New Vegas now would mean a very low quality game. Bethesda is focusing on TES V. It would make absolutely no sense for them to be doing otherwise. Fallout 4 may be in pre-production but it will still be years before it's released. With Bethesda making TES V they wont be releasing Fallout 4 in 2012. And to think Obsidian can make another Fallout game and release it in two years is ridiculous considering they will be using an engine and resources from 2008, things which were already starting to become outdated when Fallout 3 was first released.

The fact is your fantasy world of Fallouts being released every two years and being of amazing quality isn't close to being possible and won't be happening. If Obsidian is paid to make another Fallout game they're going to have to start from scratch, and that would only mean it wont be out for at least 3 or 4 years.