I HAD intended to follow that, but seeing how everyone else was equipped i somewhat followed what they did.

Eventually i do intend to be a bit more realistic though. If anyone watches REALISTIC war movies, most of the infantry has the appearance they maybe threw on some medievel hockey padding, possibly a helmet, grabbed their weapons and shields and went to war.

I was also thinking though, the Vikings couldn't have been THAT rich, and %99 of them wore hauberks and Iron(Maybe steel?) helmets.

Hell, even Steppe Nomads had chainmail.
And for everyone who thinks that pretty much all professional soldiers wield swords, incorrect. There could be someone with full armor, and an axe. Axes are simply cheaper, and require different techniques to wield.

I just had a thought, maybe this could have been why middle eastern regions could field more soldiers than a western region the same size? (I think they had larger armies when compared this way.)

Middle eastern armies tended towards much less armor, and with "knights" wearing mail instead of plate.

Steel has actually been around for a very long time. Anglo-Saxons made their weapons out of steel.

99% of Vikings isn't that much when you factor in that a raiding party wasn't that large compared to a full-blown army, and that most of them were from scavenge.

Steppe (Russian, not Turkish) Nomads were more fond of Lamellar armour. Byzantine Lamellar was actually stronger than a mail hauberk, and it's components were cheaper. However, the skill required for the Byzantines to make that kind of armour was pretty large.

Heck, a padded gambeson is actually pretty tough. It does wonder to protect against blunt weapon. Though piercing and edged weapons it suffers.

Then also most warfare was conducted with Routier companies, rather than standing armies which didn't appear till the late middle ages, so those mercenaries had plenty of times to scavenge armor from fallen opponents, or buy armor for themselves with the loot from sacking cities and such, which happened quite often. If mail was so cheap, then knights wouldn't have to haved turned to banditry if they lost their armor.

But this is also Tamriel. Natural resources are likely more prevalent since magick provides a weapon that doesn't need smithing. The culture is also more advanced, which lends to the fact that guardsmen are well-armoured.

It's all very contradictory, so I just suggest people use their best judgment and limit themselves according to their holdings. Dwynnen I've made one of the poorest and backwater regions in High Rock, which reflects into my military.

Well, i think it is pretty clear the shift which is about to happen in my region.
At the moment the armies are finely equipped, but there is a large poor class, largely due to the way Francois rules.
Once Ghalib takes over, the army will swell for several reasons, but much wealth will be spread from the richer to the poorer soon, and the military will become less finely equipped.

I guess it is all fairly relative to the holdings.

Are wooly mammoth and wootz the same person? All this talk confuses me, you need a history phd just to understand what you guys are saying.

Sheesh

btdubbs Verlox, waiting for some kind of hint from Dwynnen that they want Osric to come in.

And for BladeMaster, I now have Edgar inside.

Don't worry, my men are circling around you. I'm just working on a project, but I should be done soon. And what does btdubbs mean?!

The Nords won't roll over anyone if someone doesn't play Cloud Spring. Where's Solidor?

I think ''btdudds" is supposed to be "btw". Not sure. :shrug:

btdubbs = BTW = by the way.

:D

About time!

I enjoy how you spell out the "W".

Sorry about that, BladeMaster!

Oh, yup. Dubbs, hehe.

I've been a bit busy lately, so I apologize for my lack of posting. I try to get in a post once a day, or two posts in one day to make up for a missed day, and so on. If people are online a lot today, I'll try to get a fair bit of posting done to make up for [censored].

Hehe, I was kidding.

Life gets in the way, and in most cases comes before RPing.

Not with me though..... :nerd:

That can't be healthy.

As per request of Immortal, I'm working on a sheet for Daggerfall right now.

Natural light burns.....

But enough of my spam! Essays need writing!

Still shouldn't be said, it's common decency to not go about trash talking others. Not very nice.

Oh and I'm not sure if I can make a post today either, got my exams coming up next week and want to study a bit today, though I'll have to see. Exams always stress me out, especially the ones involving too much math.

Alright guys settle down. I don't want to deal with this sort of non sense. If there's a problem PM me.

As per the armor discussion, yea not everyone is heavily armored. I don't even want to see plate armor all that often. The age of plate armor in history for example I think lasted for less than 100 years if even that.

Here is an updated version with more sense.

Name: Hakar Dragon-Eye
Race: Nord
Birthsign: The Warrior
Age: 42
Appearance data: 6'4 235 pounds.
Appearance description: A tall and muscular Nord, He wears a rugged eye-patch, with a large seemingly story telling scar running down over his eye socket. He wears standard Nordic steel armor, except it, in some parts, is painted red. His normal hair is brown, but his head is shaved. He has scars on his arms from past battles, as he is a veteran. He wields a giant 50 pound sword, with nordic engravings ingraved, "Long live Dragonstar." His side arm is a 15 pound shortsword.

History: Started out as a soldier at a young age for Skyrim, He moved through the ranks, as a superior commander and fighter, more than any regular soldier. He participated in many skirmishes with foes on the border such as the Altmer that wanted to take the city back, and different gigantic groups of bandit gangs and raiders. When the invasion of Morrowind came, he went into battle, as a War-chief, but had to return to his home, Dragonstar, because his right eye was punctured out in a battle. After the war, he fought skirmishes with foes near the border, and protected Dragonstar. As Dragon star is on the borer of Hammerfel and Skyrim, he took the city fullyin Skyrim's control. The King of Dragonstar promoted him to head general of the city, and he has heard of Rurik's invasion, and wants to participate. The king has allowed him to take troops to assist Rurik and his companions. He has gotten his unit ready, and they are marching for Raven spring,

(this is based on the idea that Dragonstar was conquered fully by the Nords, and that Daggerfall's half was taken over)

Unit Sheet: (10,110)

2000 Dragon light Infantry: these are Nordic infantry bearing swords, basic fighting units, wear Iron armor

1000 Dragon Pikeman: Nords bearing spears and chainmail. Used to slow calvary, and eliminate them.

2000 Dragon Archers: Nords bearing steel bows and chainmail.

2000 Dragon heavy Calvary: Nords bearing Nordic steel armor, and Iron swords and shields.

1000 Dragon soldiers (heavy): These are the elite battle troops of Hakar's army. They wear Nordic steel painted red, with giant Steel Axes, very elite and large.

2000 Dragonstar Lanced Calvary: Nords bearing lances, Iron armor painted red.

100 Dragonstar immortals: They are called the immortals. they wear chainmail armor painted Black and Red, they bear two shortswords, they consist of the smallest and fastest of Nords, used to go after the opposing general as assassins

10 Red Dragons: The Legendary elite soldiers that consist of Hakar's guard, Wear Red painted steel armor, with large swords.


the bio wasn't changed

and only 1100 of my units wear steel. I don't have all the time in the world to give in the week

No. The character you had before was fine. I don't want to keep handing out "troops" like this. you're turning the focus very much onto the war aspect and that isn't the goal here.

Don't type any more crap about the drama here either. I've gotten complaints from at least 3 people so far wooly. Chill out.

well, may I half my unit count? and keep the character? It won't be that many units. And yes, I am chilled out.

W00tz has been treating me like this for the past month and a half, and I was tired of it.]

The moderators will deal with this

I didn't expect to have to intervene in this thread, however, one post flaming another member lead to a discussion on it. I have deleted all the relevant posts and ask you not to repeat this behaviour. Just either take it to PM or don't post.

Thank you Rohugh. Now, let's get back on track


All counts over 1000 have been reduced to that number


Name: Hakar Dragon-Eye
Race: Nord
Birthsign: The Warrior
Age: 42
Appearance data: 6'4 235 pounds.
Appearance description: A tall and muscular Nord, He wears a rugged eye-patch, with a large seemingly story telling scar running down over his eye socket. He wears standard Nordic steel armor, except it, in some parts, is painted red. His normal hair is brown, but his head is shaved. He has scars on his arms from past battles, as he is a veteran. He wields a giant 50 pound sword, with nordic engravings ingraved, "Long live Dragonstar." His side arm is a 15 pound shortsword.

History: Started out as a soldier at a young age for Skyrim, He moved through the ranks, as a superior commander and fighter, more than any regular soldier. He participated in many skirmishes with foes on the border such as the Altmer that wanted to take the city back, and different gigantic groups of bandit gangs and raiders. When the invasion of Morrowind came, he went into battle, as a War-chief, but had to return to his home, Dragonstar, because his right eye was punctured out in a battle. After the war, he fought skirmishes with foes near the border, and protected Dragonstar. As Dragon star is on the borer of Hammerfel and Skyrim, he took the city fullyin Skyrim's control. The King of Dragonstar promoted him to head general of the city, and he has heard of Rurik's invasion, and wants to participate. The king has allowed him to take troops to assist Rurik and his companions. He has gotten his unit ready, and they are marching for Raven spring,

(this is based on the idea that Dragonstar was conquered fully by the Nords, and that Daggerfall's half was taken over)

Unit Sheet: (6110)

1000 Dragon light Infantry: these are Nordic infantry bearing swords, basic fighting units, wear Iron armor

1000 Dragon Pikeman: Nords bearing spears and chainmail. Used to slow calvary, and eliminate them.

1000 Dragon Archers: Nords bearing steel bows and chainmail.

1000 Dragon heavy Calvary: Nords bearing Nordic steel armor, and Iron swords and shields.

1000 Dragon soldiers (heavy): These are the elite battle troops of Hakar's army. They wear Nordic steel painted red, with giant Steel Axes, very elite and large.

1000 Dragonstar Lanced Calvary: Nords bearing lances, Iron armor painted red.

100 Dragonstar immortals: They are called the immortals. they wear chainmail armor painted Black and Red, they bear two shortswords, they consist of the smallest and fastest of Nords, used to go after the opposing general as assassins

10 Red Dragons: The Legendary elite soldiers that consist of Hakar's guard, Wear Red painted steel armor, with large swords.

How did Altmer get to dragonstar?

A 50-pound sword? Highly Ineffective.

Holy crap Immortal, helluva creepy scene there with Parthia and snake-boy.

Yea I do that once in a while. I had to avenge myself for my past week's crappy posting.

Phantasm you should stick with the Psijic order all throughout the timeline and just be the official Psijic guy.

*Ahem*....guy?

I'd love to stick around, though I can't post all day like everybody else can. Have to do homework and stuff.