[Ice Fire]

oops sorry actually posted this on wrong page ..was reading both at same time...... hated the book read it in one evening not because i was enraptured just a short novel is all but the story didnt seem riviting to me so hope the game wont be based on this story ... the floating city bored me and all the kitchen stuff was very uninteresting in my opinion the only thing in the book that was of interest to me was the inspectors and the ground stuff as a whole the idea of priest classes again being a true entity is thrilling as is the change of the empire itself all that lends to some promising stuff.

[JeSsy ArEllano]

oops sorry actually posted this on wrong page ..was reading both at same time......

If you post in the wrong page you can edit the previous posting and remove what you wrote and put in what you wanted to write.

[Clea Jamerson]

Hammerfell is halfway across the world, while Soltheim and Skyrim are right next door. We also don't know the geological effects of the eruption - everything could have gotten quite a bit warmer.

Two more maps:

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/6016/tamriel4e01.jpg. Stripy areas are disputed or under loose control. White areas are those about which we have no information.

The same, but with http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7119/tamriel4e02.jpg identified in the Infernal City. Unknown areas have been cropped.

Both are based on the Oblivion map, Arthmodeus' map of Tamriel, and the info in the novel. Both Photoshop CS5, in case anyone is wondering.

These maps wonderful !!! do you by perchance have the old maps from the original Daggerfall to overlay a bit it would help somewhat also dont you think as per the city's in the other countries ?

[Kelsey Anna Farley]

These maps wonderful !!! do you by perchance have the old maps from the original Daggerfall to overlay a bit it would help somewhat also dont you think as per the city's in the other countries ?

I have the Daggerfall map, yes, but I don't know what good it would do. By the Infernal City its 100 years old, and the landmass itself doesn't match up with the newest available maps (those in the PGE). The cities/towns included were those mentioned in the book.

[Ruben Bernal]

I have the Daggerfall map, yes, but I don't know what good it would do. By the Infernal City its 100 years old, and the landmass itself doesn't match up with the newest available maps (those in the PGE). The cities/towns included were those mentioned in the book.

tks for the reply .. i didnt think the maps were the same either from what i remember but thought i could be wrong... it happens sometimes lol...tks again

[Brandi Norton]

"Domains under heaven, after a long period of division, tends to unite; after a long period of union, tends to divide."

That's been true for a very long time both in our own world and the world of Tamriel, hasn't it?

[Danger Mouse]

^
Indeed. I pretty much just wanted to quote the opening line of The Romance of Three Kingdoms to underline Steve's post up there. It always seems to fit perfectly into discussions about the rise and fall of empires, for obvious reasons.

[Nymph]

The Aldmeri Dominion will never conquer Tamerial simply because Man has the numeric advantage over Mer. Sure in terms of the level of magic the Mer will dominate Man, but if you have mages enchant armor with reflect spells the Mer's spell power will be more of a curse then a blessing. Cyrodil may fall, but if it did Skyrim, Hammerfall, and High Rock will surely come to Cyrodil's rescue if just to have a buffer between the nations.

Maybe but Tiber Septim was numerically disadvantaged until he got a gaint stompy robot so there are ways, anyway whether its the Aldmeri Dominion the An Xileel Skyrim or someone else I'd really like to see a new empire not based in Cyrodil but somewhere else.

[Aaron Clark]

Know what I would like?

For the book to come out.

[Stacyia]

I need some help, I'm doing an assignment due tomorrow and I have to find 2 quotes/extracts/pieces of the book that exemplify something about the book (characters, style, theme, language) I know, it feels rude asking others to help me with an assignment like this but I really need help now because I dont have much time, I've read the book ofcourse but I only need help finding some quotes now or pieces of the text that well, does what I said

I would prefer something that exemplify something about the author, the language, I know he writes in a kind of refined way, messes with syntax and normal sentance structure, PLEASE help me find a piece that really exemplify that. but any good quote with a good reason is fine.

No I'm not asking you to do my whole assignment I'm just looking for some help with this particular part, and I would love you forever if you helped me. Please, if you find/know some part of the book, please write the quote/piece from the book, page number and a small motivation (why and what it exemplifies).

I appreciate any help!

[gemma king]

I plan on getting this on my Kindle soon. How does it compare to other video game novels? Would you say that it's on par with the World of Warcaft novels (some of which aren't very good, while some are. Of course reactions are influenced by how involved / attached you are to the game world).

[^~LIL B0NE5~^]

I plan on getting this on my Kindle soon. How does it compare to other video game novels? Would you say that it's on par with the World of Warcaft novels (some of which aren't very good, while some are. Of course reactions are influenced by how involved / attached you are to the game world).

I've never read the WoW novels... But I'll say it is certainly better than the two Mass Effect novels. Maybe I'm just being blinded by love of TES though :wub:
Either way I would certainly recommend it if you are into reading the books that are inside the games.

[Brooks Hardison]

Cool. You know I think I actually found out about this book from a Facebook ad. It's crazy how they really target you.

[Flutterby]

I'm not entirely sure what thread would be appropriate for this since it contains some discussion about the Infernal City, Speculation on TESV, and speculation on any other game set further in the timeline. The idea was thought of because of the Infernal city and because this is a spoiler zone I posted it here. I hope I made the right choice :wacko:

Earlier today I came to a sad realization. The Dunmer, who we know and love as ashy voiced chain smokers from Morrowind will not exist at all in the next Elder Scrolls game. Now don't go crazy, I don't mean they won't be in the game. But like Oblivion they most likely will not have their wonderful voices.
According to the Infernal City the ministry of truth crashing + red mountain erupting = Morrowinds destruction
-not to mention the Argonians invading- with all survivors fleeing to Solstheim or other provinces. The next game should take place quite sometime after the second book, and if I recall the books themselves are set 50 years after Oblivion. Let's say the game is set 200 years after Oblivion. So sure, if BGS want's to be awesome and implement multiple voices for the races we could have some "refugee" Dunmer from morrowind with ashy voices who are still alive since elves have pretty long life spans. But, that would be the end for our chain smoking friends. Unless any future game was a prequel we will never hear those sweet voices again

[john page]

They have 200 (rumor) years to repopulate, along with the nords that reside in Solstheim to help them out.

Also, it was 40 years after OB.

[Noraima Vega]

They have 200 (rumor) years to repopulate, along with the nords that reside in Solstheim to help them out.

Also, it was 40 years after OB.

I'm not saying they won't be in the game. That would be ridiculous. I'm saying that we will never have our Morrowind ashy voiced Dunmer again because they will not grow up breathing in ash storms. :flamed:

Also, thanks. I knew it was at least close to 50 years. I haven't read it since it came out.
Because someone decided to borrow my copy and never return it. :stare:

[Rob]

So what was everyones favorite part? I particularly enjoyed the brief look into Khajiiti culture, and the passages with Colin (think that was his name).

I specifically enjoyed the chapter with the mysterious monster in the house, mainly because I could envision the setting with great detail, from actually "being" in the Imperial City's houses in Oblivion.

[KIng James]

So what was everyones favorite part? I particularly enjoyed the brief look into Khajiiti culture, and the passages with Colin (think that was his name).

I specifically enjoyed the chapter with the mysterious monster in the house, mainly because I could envision the setting with great detail, from actually "being" in the Imperial City's houses in Oblivion.

I also liked the details on the imperial faction Colin belongs to (Inspectors?). Sounds like the blades only a lot more covert and interesting. Doing the dirty work of the empire. Did the scene where Colin asks what the man he killed did remind anyone of The Bourne Ultimatum where he's being brought in as an assassin for the CIA?

[Frank Firefly]

Earlier today I came to a sad realization. The Dunmer, who we know and love as ashy voiced chain smokers from Morrowind will not exist at all in the next Elder Scrolls game. Now don't go crazy, I don't mean they won't be in the game. But like Oblivion they most likely will not have their wonderful voices.

I hated the Morrowind Dunmer voices (and I'm probably the only one who thinks that). They remind me of my barber.

But hearing him in Shivering Isles (Haskill), as well as Fallout 3 (Sergeant RL-3, Desmond Lockheart) convinces me that Jeff Baker is an absolutely amazing voice actor, so if you don't get to hear the raspy barber voice you got in Morrowind, you'll most likely have the guy doing a similar voice.

I also liked the details on the imperial faction Colin belongs to (Inspectors?). Sounds like the blades only a lot more covert and interesting.

I think it was the Penitus Oculatus (which is Latin for internal eye, or something like that) which is the Empire's spy organization. My guess is that it replaced the Blades because the Blades served a Septim Emperor, and Titus is no Septim. It almost makes me wonder what plans Bethesda has for factions in TESV. I'm especially interested in the Synod, since there was a complete absence of a healer guild in Oblivion.

[Astargoth Rockin' Design]

Whoever said for certain the Synod was a healer guild?

The only thing we know about them is that one of their members relearned the lost Levitation spell.

[Ridhwan Hemsome]

Whoever said for certain the Synod was a healer guild?

The only thing we know about them is that one of their members relearned the lost Levitation spell.

Pure speculation. Absolutely nothing has been said about those two. The only things are...
Synod: You pay dues to be in it, they rediscovered levitation, and is a guild of mages
CoW: They have students, and is another guild of mages.

[Javier Borjas]

Pure speculation. Absolutely nothing has been said about those two. The only things are...
Synod: You pay dues to be in it, they rediscovered levitation, and is a guild of mages
CoW: They have students, and is another guild of mages.

And apparently students of the CoW invent their own languages. Maybe that's just a hobby and not part of the actual curriculum though.

Anyway, someone a few posts up asked about my favorite part.

My favorite part was the little comedic moment when the girl in the orchard asked Mere-Glim if he wanted to procreate with her.

[Chad Holloway]

And apparently students of the CoW invent their own languages. Maybe that's just a hobby and not part of the actual curriculum though.

Anyway, someone a few posts up asked about my favorite part.

My favorite part was the little comedic moment when the girl in the orchard asked Mere-Glim if he wanted to procreate with her.

I had a few favorite moments. The scenes where characters spoke to the dead were well-written; Colin talking to the murdered guards and Sul talking to his wife's spirit. The latter was especially poignant when she mentions a place that couldn't have survived the moon's fall.

It was also good to hear that Cloud Ruler Temple still stands, though Attrebus doesn't mention if it was occupied.

I think we can assume that the College of Whispers is a secular group of mages, while the Synod is a religious order of mages, but it's true that we need more information on these and other factions.

[Project]

I honestly would just like to know what the next book will be entitled and when it will be released. I think Beth took the wrong business approach with the books, they are treating them as they would treat their games, not releasing the title and date until they are ready. Most books in duologies and trilogies have their titles and release dates announced years before their release.

[Tanika O'Connell]

I agree. The book was like a drop of water in a desert. All it did was make me want more. And they've been rather stingy with the water <_<
Not that I didn't enjoy the book... I just wish the sequel would hurry up and get here!