The Infernal City: An Elder Scrolls Novel; Thread #1

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:40 am

Oh, hey, for those people reading the book, is that first chapter that was up on that website to read the same thing you get in the book? You know, with all those discrepancies and dubious writing talent?


Gstaff said himself that the first chapter can be read.
I think its safe to say that its accurate. :)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:21 am

One Q for you all.

Should I buy this, and read it.

Is it worth it?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:19 pm

I cried for Morrowind a little. It's so sad to see it go. Then I got mad. Does anything any of PC's do matter at all in this world?! Then I came to grips. It still svcks, but I'm okay now. I would gave liked to heard more of what happened to Cyrodiil during the in-between years. I mean, it's only been 40 years. There are people still alive that we should know. The only one that stood out to me was Count Caro of Chorrol. To quote, "...discover which of Count Caro's daughters has been poisoning his guests again..." Anyone want to bet 10 septims that the kid's been trying to poison Argonians?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:41 pm

Was Morrowind completely wiped out? I mean, was it turned to a featureless wasteland, with no surviving structures? What exactly was the event that destroyed it anyway?

I'm asking because I have this sick feeling that Bethesda is going to use this post-apocalyptic Morrowind to make a game that is essentially Fallout: The Elder Scrolls :yuck:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:18 pm

Was Morrowind completely wiped out? I mean, was it turned to a featureless wasteland, with no surviving structures? What exactly was the event that destroyed it anyway?

I'm asking because I have this sick feeling that Bethesda is going to use this post-apocalyptic Morrowind to make a game that is essentially Fallout: The Elder Scrolls :yuck:


I have the same feeling. But all you get to know ist that Vvardenfell at least is uninhabitable and southern Morrowind isn't so nice for Dunmer anymore. And the open end of the novel gives little hope for the rest of the surviing Dunmer.

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Vivec froze Baar Dau somehow in time. After he vanished this magic wore of and the moon crashed with its original velocity in Vivec. That shockwave stimulated an explosion of the Red Mountain. What was left of Morrowind was invaded and "purificated" by Black March.

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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:35 am

If I remember correctly ?someone at Bethesda said that the events in the book might not be "true" or whatever you might call it. It is just sort of an alternative to TES lore, if I remember correctly.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:39 pm

Wait, with Morrowind gone, won't Tamriel starve from the lack of Kwama eggs?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:51 am

I've read the book. But in real it's not a novel, but a first part of a novel - it has a cliffhanger ending. Can't wait the second part.

If I remember correctly ?someone at Bethesda said that the events in the book might not be "true" or whatever you might call it. It is just sort of an alternative to TES lore, if I remember correctly.


Pete Hines http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1119 about the novel "we are doing it as if it's part of Elder Scrolls lore and canon."
So I suppose we have to consider "The Infernal City" as a part of official TES lore.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:47 pm

One Q for you all.

Should I buy this, and read it.

Is it worth it?

Get it from your library before you decide to reward Bethesda with your money. ;)
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:55 am

Wait, with Morrowind gone, won't Tamriel starve from the lack of Kwama eggs?

That should happen, but there's no mention of a starving Tamriel. It would add some dimension to Morrowind's destruction, beyond being a plot device for the novels.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:03 am

One Q for you all.

Should I buy this, and read it.

Is it worth it?

yes.

If I remember correctly ?someone at Bethesda said that the events in the book might not be "true" or whatever you might call it. It is just sort of an alternative to TES lore, if I remember correctly.

Full canon. As much as people would like to see the lore frozen for whatever reason, it has oficially de-stagnated. Which means everything in this book will have happened between TESIV and V. And I am very happy about that.



And wow. Nitpicking on a minor spelling error in a book that on absolutely no point conflicts with the established lore, even the Loveletter and other obscure works even diehard fans wouldn't have been faulted for not being aware of. Is there some kind of pathological need to fault him for something, and since you couldn't find any large or significant problems you all zeroed in on that? Priceless.

A lot of people seem to forget: Morrowind is a backwater, useful only for the rallying cry of a unified Tamriel under the Empire. Kwama Eggs are tasty imported food, but not necessary for survival on a mass scale.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:42 pm

Just got the book , time to read for once.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:49 pm

And wow. Nitpicking on a minor spelling error in a book that on absolutely no point conflicts with the established lore, even the Loveletter and other obscure works even diehard fans wouldn't have been faulted for not being aware of. Is there some kind of pathological need to fault him for something, and since you couldn't find any large or significant problems you all zeroed in on that? Priceless.

Yes. I'm resentful that there isn't a game. I don't want a damn book, I want a game. If I wanted a good book, there's zillions out there. How many good RPGs (not JRPGs) are there? I bet I can count them on my hands and still have a few fingers left over.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:47 pm

And wow. Nitpicking on a minor spelling error in a book that on absolutely no point conflicts with the established lore, even the Loveletter and other obscure works even diehard fans wouldn't have been faulted for not being aware of. Is there some kind of pathological need to fault him for something, and since you couldn't find any large or significant problems you all zeroed in on that? Priceless.


Welcome to Nerd Fandom. :P

On an unrelated note, I think I'm gonna grab that http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28422 (IF it's a modder's resource, might have to look into that) and start printing some "Save the Guar" T-shirts, now that they're an endangered species (if not extinct) and all.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:42 am

On an unrelated note, I think I'm gonna grab that http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28422 (IF it's a modder's resource, might have to look into that) and start printing some "Save the Guar" T-shirts, now that they're an endangered species (if not extinct) and all.

Seconded! I forgot about the guar! Rollie! Noooooo!!!!!!
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:51 am

Yes. I'm resentful that there isn't a game. I don't want a damn book, I want a game. If I wanted a good book, there's zillions out there. How many good RPGs (not JRPGs) are there? I bet I can count them on my hands and still have a few fingers left over.

well. Too [censored] bad, I guess. There's a book out now, that is both full canon and damn good. There is not a game yet. No use whining over it, since it's not gonna change until Bethesda's good and ready. If you really want a good western RPG, pop in an older TES game, play Dragon Age or wait for Mass Effect 2. Other than that there isn't much you or I can do.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:44 am

And wow. Nitpicking on a minor spelling error in a book that on absolutely no point conflicts with the established lore, even the Loveletter and other obscure works even diehard fans wouldn't have been faulted for not being aware of. Is there some kind of pathological need to fault him for something, and since you couldn't find any large or significant problems you all zeroed in on that? Priceless.

No spelling error is minor when you do it three times with a proper noun and make it into a new word in the process. Heh, maybe we can just apply BATW to the entire book if we had to. :biglaugh:
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:16 pm

I bought, read and liked the book. I don't think it was short but it could have been a bit longer. People unfamiliar with the games and lore can have some difficult understanding parts of it.

The description of Umbriel and Annaig and Mere-Glim's adventures were pretty interesting. Attrebus not being the medieval superhero he was hinted to be was refreshing. Sul is a interesting character.

For all the talk about zombies they played a very small part on the book.

Kudos to Bethesda for having the courage to deeply change the lore, let's see how this will play on the games. I was surprised to see how the small Clavicus Vile's quest on OB ended up like this. The hints on Oblivion and Morrowind about these events show that the new lore was already being planned for some time.

The Medes' ascension to power was not explained in full but as the Imperial City is the final target of Umbriel in the 2nd book we can expect to see more of it, I hope.

The Argonians conquering Morrowind and the new Hist and Black Marsh lore was cool to read!

All in all a good book, could have been better but a satisfying read nonetheless.

To anyone having difficult buying the ebook (as it has geo restrictions) in US sites like B&N or Fictionwise I bought it on a UK site.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:48 pm

So did the Argonians invade before or after Morrowind was destroyed? If it was after, does this mean that Morrowind is now part of Black Marsh/ Argonia?

I've got to read the book eventually lol.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:33 pm

So did the Argonians invade before or after Morrowind was destroyed? If it was after, does this mean that Morrowind is now part of Black Marsh/ Argonia?

I've got to read the book eventually lol.

From waht i gathered here they invaded afterwards but i think they already gathered troups before it happened, so the destruction of Vvradenfell was probably just a "lucky" conincidence that helped them.
However it could very well be that they didn't plan on a invasion in Morrowind at all and when it happend they took the chance. After all it's also said that they drove all empirial troups out of Black Marsh beforehand so they musht have gathered armies to do that. When the impact happend they just happened to have troups ready then and invaded.

As mentioned before i hope this is not used to paint the Argonians as evil now somehow, while there is mention of payback for the slavery and opression it's easy for the readers not familir with the TES verse to see "evil lizard guys invading a hurt nation". However it should also be noted that a lot of other nations rebeled agains the empire in some ways and started shutting their borders, most prominent would be Summerset island with their embargo.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:53 pm

No one else finds it interesting we have been given glimpse of what it is like to be in Hiricine's actual realm? I also feel bad about what happened to the khajiit there.

Also, whose realm do you think they visited when they were traveling? The first seemed to have been Mehrunes Dagon's realm. Then it was:
1) utter darkness but not silence, for all around them were chittering sounds and staccato scurrying of hundreds of feet. I can only guess Namaria's realm, due to the darkness and what I can assume to be bugs
2) An infinite palace of colored glass. Guessing Meridia's realm.
3) An icy plane with a burning sky. Sounds like Molag Bal's realm, if I am correct
4) A dark red river, and the smell of blood was nearly suffocating. I have no clue...Anyone have an idea?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:30 pm

I was surprised to see how the small Clavicus Vile's quest on OB ended up like this.

So he used Umbra? But I never gave him Umbra. It's still sitting in my inventory, at 0 weight.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:12 am

So he used Umbra? But I never gave him Umbra. It's still sitting in my inventory, at 0 weight.

Quite possible that in the time in between he aquired it another way, after all he could easily send another of his followers to fetch it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:25 am

Quite possible that in the time in between he aquired it another way, after all he could easily send another of his followers to fetch it.

It has also been mentioned that Umbra has a tendency to come and go from user to user, till it feels the current user fails to fill its bloodlust or the user dies. It is a sword with a mind of its own.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:19 am

It has also been mentioned that Umbra has a tendency to come and go from user to user, till it feels the current user fails to fill its bloodlust or the user dies. It is a sword with a mind of its own.

Good call, also IF Shivering Isles is canon it can very well be that Umbra simply didn't feel like the new "mad god" wasnt a fitting wielder anymore. Or Vile simply took it from you while you where in Sheogoraths Oblivion realm.
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