The Infernal City: An Elder Scrolls Novel; Thread #1

Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:58 am

Is this book actually any good?
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Danii Brown
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:54 pm

Is this book actually any good?

yes. Very.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:05 pm

Who visited these realms in the book?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:07 pm

I'm only on the first chapter of the book, but a little depressed about Morrowind's fate (after reading this thread). After reading the "Loveletter", I speculated for several years that the Landfall was going to happen and that it would be the Ministry, but it's still a surprise to hear it confirmed. All the places we explored on Vvardenfell, all the NPCs we met there; gone now. Kind of bizarre. I wonder if the Cavern of the Failed Incarnates survived. Also, the poor damned Ashlanders . . . .

The "Loveletter" mentioned that there were survivors among the Dunmer miners, who go on to live underground for generations to come, including the House of Sul.

Anyway, Keyes is a good writer -- the passages on the Hist trees alone in the early chapters are interesting. I like the detail that there are a few elderly mages hanging around the defunct Mage guildhalls; they would have been in their twenties or so when the Oblivion Crisis occurred.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:28 am

I love how the book mentioned, the Psyojic Order, and the old " crazy guy, " the argonian, Glim, talks too.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:30 am

I love how the book mentioned, the Psyojic Order, and the old " crazy guy, " the argonian, Glim, talks too.


Yes, it was good to see Artaeum and the Psijiics mentioned.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:03 pm

I'm only on the first chapter of the book, but a little depressed about Morrowind's fate (after reading this thread). After reading the "Loveletter", I speculated for several years that the Landfall was going to happen and that it would be the Ministry, but it's still a surprise to hear it confirmed. All the places we explored on Vvardenfell, all the NPCs we met there; gone now. Kind of bizarre. I wonder if the Cavern of the Failed Incarnates survived. Also, the poor damned Ashlanders . . . .

The "Loveletter" mentioned that there were survivors among the Dunmer miners, who go on to live underground for generations to come, including the House of Sul.

Anyway, Keyes is a good writer -- the passages on the Hist trees alone in the early chapters are interesting. I like the detail that there are a few elderly mages hanging around the defunct Mage guildhalls; they would have been in their twenties or so when the Oblivion Crisis occurred.

I'm sure that not all of them (characters from Morrowind) are dead. It's been forty-six years since the events of Morrowind occurred, maybe some of them moved away a long time ago. I seriously doubt that the Cavern of the Failed Incarnates did not get blown to ashes though.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:01 pm

I love how the book mentioned, the Psyojic Order, and the old " crazy guy, " the argonian, Glim, talks too.

The funny thing is that that probably is how most people would see a Psijic. Some old esoteric nut who talks about real wierd [censored].
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:18 am

I once speculated that Attrebus and his father could be Redguards. Does anyone know their race in the book?

Edit: Never mind. See the next post.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:23 pm

Poor Turns-The-Page. Its fortunate she didn't live to see this. Her countrymen have cast off the great civilised society of the Cyrodiils and reverted to barbarism. :shakehead: The Literacy
rates are going to be even lower now than when she started. And Poor Idredhel... he's going to have to live in the cold of Solstheim. Dammit Keyes, you really [censored] up my RPs, you know that?


I know what you mean. In retrospect, it's a good thing that Loranna and her company of adventurers got exiled to Cyrodiil during the Lore RP, because her duchy in Ald Ra'athim is probably toast now. Since it was coastal, at the least it would have gotten a tsunami. My Redguard character is still alive, though 90. :)

I hope Helseth and Barenziah survived somehow, because I used to like Ted Peterson's take on them; neither were cardboard characters.

Edit: Sorry that I double-posted. And after reading more of the novel, I see now that the Medes aren't Redguards; apparently they're Colovian. The novel is a real page-turner too.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:07 pm

I just got around to reading the excerpt of the first chapter that is available, and so far it seems pretty good. One question though, exactly what race is Annaig?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:21 pm

She ought to be a Breton, as I recall.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:57 am

Annaig is a breton, it is mentioned in the book
The Medes are both Colovians
Glim is an argonian, native to Lilmoth
Sul is a dunmer

And those are the main characters' race
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:48 am

She ought to be a Breton, as I recall.



Annaig is a breton, it is mentioned in the book
The Medes are both Colovians
Glim is an argonian, native to Lilmoth
Sul is a dunmer

And those are the main characters' race


Thanks.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:20 pm

Oh, actually, there's 1 more person

Colin, an inspector of Titus's spies and assassins. He is a Colovian, native to Anvil

I mention Glim's place of birth, because it was a significant part in the book, and Colin keeps talking about how he lived in Anvil. If I remember right, Annaig is also a native of Lilmoth, or at least began to live there when she was really young.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:15 am

I'm sure that not all of them (characters from Morrowind) are dead. It's been forty-six years since the events of Morrowind occurred, maybe some of them moved away a long time ago. I seriously doubt that the Cavern of the Failed Incarnates did not get blown to ashes though.



The biggest tragedy would be if Divath Fyr and Yagrum were to have perished, as they were among the longest lived and most interesting personalities from Morrowind aside from the Tribunal themselves.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:18 pm

The biggest tragedy would be if Divath Fyr and Yagrum were to have perished, as they were among the longest lived and most interesting personalities from Morrowind aside from the Tribunal themselves.

I don't think that they would've survived, unless Fyr had some sort of magic to protect them.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 5:22 pm

I don't think that they would've survived, unless Fyr had some sort of magic to protect them.



That's assuming they were actually in Vvardenfell when it happened.

Remember the comet impact itself didn't initially destroy the entire island. The comet destroyed Vivec City and many miles around it, and triggered a volcano which took the rest of the Island out. Tel Fyr is actually a tiny island off the coast of the main Island, so it may have survived both cataclysms.

Fyr also is known to travel Tamriel searching for exciting lore and ingredients for his potions. He could have been in a different province when this occurred.

And worse comes to worse, both he and Yagrum are powerful wizards who could survive in a variety of ways, the most obvious being teleportation. Fyr's daughters could probably escape in a similar fashion since they're strong casters too.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:22 pm

I have only 20 pages left to read. Keyes did a good job; he picked up on Elder Scrolls lore better than a lot of people who've played the games for years. The character Sul has some good scenes, especially at the remains of Vivec City (now a crater lake). The people who worried about Annaig's youth shouldn't have -- she's not a stereotype in the novel, and is resourceful (along with the Argonian Glim and the inspector, Colin).

I don't recommend paying full price for the book, but definitely borrow it from a library or buy it when the price drops. Despite the massive changes to Morrowind, Keyes is respectful of the Elder Scrolls universe. I thought he also did well with the Khajiit characters, and with Hircine.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:28 pm

I've been combing the book for as much info as related to Morrowind's destruction. It's obvious the mainland has been hit pretty hard, as evidenced by this passage:

Gone the dense forest, winding rivers, and oxbow lakes, all replaced by ash-colored desert and jagged peaks. That meant they were out of Black Marsh at last, and well over Morrowind.


"Well over" insinuates that Gilm is able to determine that from the ashen deserts. Note, at this point they are still south of Vvardenfell and Vivec Crater (which is the southernmost point of Vvardenfell).

But if we take into account the fact that no other province has apparently been damaged, we can speculate on the eruption's range- Morrowind is not a very big province in itself. Most of the Dunmer cities are located around the Sea of Ghosts and Inner Sea, apart from the Dres. And we know that some of Southern Morrowind is still habitable- the Argonians have moved in somewhat.

We also can't forget that the eruption of Red Mountain has happened before (what's referred to as the Year of Sun's Death)- there is a precedent for this. Last time, I believe it ripped Vvardenfell out of the Mainland. Obviously, the province managed to survive that one as well (though that may have been helped by the lack of an invading Argonian army)

I'm going to speculate that the city of Almalexia-Mournhold may have survived (to an extent), as it is well beyond the tsunami range and the Inner Sea would have sheltered it from lava. The only danger would come from earthquakes and falling ash. The Telvanni Islands may have survived as well, but may be buried under ash.

My speculation is that the northern 3/5 of Morrowind are at best an ash covered desert, destroyed by earthquakes and ravaged by tsunamis. Vvardenfell is completely ruined, though some structures may survive- the old Strongholds predate the first eruption, and if we use that as precedent, some notable structures may still exist.

The southern parts are relatively free of ash, but shaken up by earthquakes, thus decimating the population. Then the Argonians swept in, driving the survivors north (or killing them), to other provinces or to So(u)lstheim. (It may be that the island, now a Dunmer home, has been renamed by it's new inhabitants, or something).

Plus, if we take into account the Loveletter, there may be underground settlements that nobody is aware of.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 4:12 pm

The southern parts are relatively free of ash, but shaken up by earthquakes, thus decimating the population. Then the Argonians swept in, driving the survivors north (or killing them), to other provinces or to So(u)lstheim. (It may be that the island, now a Dunmer home, has been renamed by it's new inhabitants, or something).

Plus, if we take into account the Loveletter, there may be underground settlements that nobody is aware of.


I was just thinking of what life is like for the Dunmer who fled to Solstheim -- they've lost their temples and their ancestors' tombs. It will be difficult for them to adjust to the northern cold, and to preserve their culture. The loss of all that history is hard to imagine. I guess the Dunmer within Cyrodiil can find Daedric shrines to worship at, but in general, this diaspora is going to be a harder challenge than the Blight used to be.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:01 am

I'll be getting Morrowind soon. It's going to be a bit weird knowing that anywhere I go in the game will one day be totally destroyed, but I'll just consider it a prequel. :D

Also, I can't wait for Bethesda to release an updated map of Tamriel once the second book is released and TES:V is announced. I'm personally really hoping the Argonians are able to keep the land they took and make it a part of Argonia. It'll make a game set there much more appealing, because we'll get to explore Black Marsh and at least the southern part of Morrowind. A Dunmer-Argonian war would make a great game as well.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:55 am

The Loveletter is 5e911. The settlements of scarabs aren't there yet.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:47 am

The Loveletter is 5e911. The settlements of scarabs aren't there yet.


What is the Loveletter everyone's talking about? And what about the 5th era? :confused:

Edit: I still haven't read the book, btw. I wont have it until the end of december.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:30 pm

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv8-yma2&p=Loveletter%20fifth%20era&type=, now just a date on a chart.
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