We know that the Landfall of the Red Year isn't the same Landfall mentioned in the Loveletter. Is it possible that they are both the result of a mutual cause? Vivec, in Sermon Thirty-Three, said "if the love of the people of this city for me ever disappear, so shall the power that holds back their destruction". The Loveletter warns that the world should learn love to avoid the Landfall. Is the Loveletter Landfall a more catastrophic repeat of the Red Year? Was the Red Year Vivec's warning?

I doubt it could happen again, the moon is down for the count. Personally I'd imagine something a bit more metaphysical

In my mind, red year is exactly what Vehk warned us about in sermon 33. He was right, it happened. Landfall on the other hand, is just something else. Could be related though, only the Elk knows.

Landfall=???????

I would guess an event that requires the peoples of either all Tamriel or all the Dunmer to unite and love one another to stop it. I think Vehk is planning another orgy tbh....

That's what I meant. I don't mean a literal repeat of the moon crashing down, but rather another catastrophic event that can be avoided through love.

Source? The loveletter could just be mentioning seperate catastrophic events,

From MK:

"Landfall and the Infernal City (01/25/11)
The Landfall != the associated events of The Infernal City.
Totally different thing. When Landfall happens, you guys will do a spit-take like Bail Organa did when the Death Star showed up above Alderaan."

My guess is that the land (Nirn) will literally begin to fall. Perhaps a hint that the Thalmor will succeed?

The Red Year was just from a little moon.

Maybe it will fall.... ON ITSELF!

There are other moons that orbit Mundus. It's just that, we can't see them right now, for some reason. I don't think they've actually dissapeared.

My theory on Landfall (an event, in this theory, taking place in TES VI, or beyond):
You, the PC, are traveling through Aetherius in service of the Empire, when a Thalmor ship raids you, (lead by the infamous... Darth M'aiq). They take you to the Thalmor's secret superweapon: The Death Magna-Ge.
There, Grand Archmage Tarkin asks you the location of the secret Imperial base. He threatens to destroy Cyrodiil with the full destructive power of the Death Magna-Ge if you don't tell him. Refusing to give him the real answer, you claim it's in High Rock. However, the Grand Archmage is wise to your tricks, and has Cyrodiil destroyed anyway.

And that, my dear friends, is Landfall.

Landfall is the God coming to know himself.

E.I The End of TES. User-generated content replaces all else.

Fear it. Hello Kitty Daedric Princes Vs Master Chief CoCs.

Above and beyond anything else there are two things I pray occur in future installments : 1. Spell Creation returns. 2. Landfall is actually written into the arc. And 2 is by far the most important to me. It just sounds....so..friggen.....awesome.

Okay, I got it! Sucunda and Masser turns into the Death Star and blows up Mundas into tiny, bite-sized cookies for Alduin!

Seriously though, I think it will involve the two moons falling

I legitimately said "Oh [censored]" when I read that.

Remember the Prophet of Landfall. Perchance his New Faith preaches love so that the faithful might survive Landfall.

But what would that entail? As the dreamer realizes it was dreaming do the dreams fade? Does the Godhead make them a reality upon waking and if so what would happen? If you escape the dream do you enter into the Dreamers reality? What would be in that reality? Is there one? Or is all and everything a part of the dream?

Things to ponder. I don't think we can give any info on this as of yet.

I guess what I am thinking though is what would happen if the god came to know himself within the dream? What if he never 'woke'?

If it is a dream related thing, maybe it's an Inception thing. The whole reality we are familiar with gets taken down or up another level of dreaming or something.

Or maybe the godhead gets a hypnic jerk from falling?

A new God? Masser and Secunda... umm... meeting each other? As in colliding. And a new God coming to know himself? Rather a collision than a fall.

I always thought the landfall might've been literal. The towers crumbling and so Tamriel's land literally falling down as they don't keep it intact any longer. Or something.

The Oblivion Gates/Dragons of the next game: beware the occasional landslides! (A new minigame, anyone? -.-)

Well if all that is TES is the dream and the dreamer woke. What happens to the contents of the dream? Just gone? Vestigial imagery and ideas stuck in the dreamers head that slowly fade from existence?

I hope the godhead is in one hell of a deep ass coma...

The God, as in the immortal ever hallucinating Godhead. I was paraphrasing Hagel () but it alludes to Amaranth. I do feel that it's both a major metaphysical event and a huge world-changing event. Something like Alduin really, really coming to eat the world or the for realsies return of Lorkhan.

Really, though, I don't know. And I don't want to.

That...made me laugh harder than it should have. Might have something to do with staying up all night studying for an Astronomy exam though.

As with the Dwemer. Sometimes it is just better not knowing.

There was a short story I once read -- I think the title was "Midnight in the Cathedral". The premise was that a mysterious event occurred, which was referred to as "the death of God", in which reality seemed to come unbound, and what people imagined could immediately reshape the world around them. Most of the world disappeared in the ensuing panic; the only survivors were in places where people could maintain some sort of mental discipline. The immediate setting was a cathedral, inhabited by the descendants of survivors and statues that had come to life. Toward the end of the story, one of the characters speculated that God hadn't died, merely loosened the rules and restrictions as humanity moved passed childhood.

I've seen a few comments, here and there, by MK, that "the dream no longer needs the dreamer". Perhaps Landfall might mean something like this.

Come to think of it, I'm also reminded of the cataclysm at Winterhold, where curiously the College survived and not much else. The land fell away. Could that have been a foreshadowing?

The Dwemer are different for me. I feel like we mostly know about their disappearance; it's their daily life that is supposed to be incomprehensible. Akavir is special because it's whole thing is being unknown and mysterious, and knowing about it would ruin it. With the Landfall, I don't want to know because I want to have my mind completely blows if/when it does actually happen.