The Legal battle of the Caesar's Legion

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:13 am

But I really dont think that tehy would care about international law, that does not exist anymore or with sending troops to America to sue.


No matter, the OP didn't say anything about troops- he's talking about having lawyers put Caesar in his place.

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Franko AlVarado
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:18 pm

Rioting in Europe after if disolved into many states is a given. There would hardly be a goverment, so people would be fighting over anything and everything.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:09 pm

Yeah, I knew all that, but they don't say anything about constant rioting and anarchy.


"Quarrelling and Bickering " In the United States there was rioting and anarchy and they managed to get the last of almost everything including oil. I am sure many if not all European countries were in chaos. EU dissolved, resources gone. Fighting/Wars with other nations. Economy going to hell, look at EU today one nation can't pay its debt and the whole system threatens to collapse, many countries have seen rioting. It does not take much to see that a Europe in 2077 (Fallout) would be in bad shape and fighting one another. Then the Bombs fell and it was Game Over for everyone.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:20 pm

You think that does not make sense? I'm just trying to create a correct explanation.
However, I do not put him scout enters powerfully into the camp of Caesar, in fact we are in a peaceful manner, as an ambassador who brings gifts from his land (which this case vocabularies on European languages, the Ancient Roman books (of course in English) that Caesar had never seen.
I am sure that Caesar did not consider what happened after the Gens Julia (which became extinct with the suicide of Nero, and that after his death, the legion is likely to escalate as so happens in Rome because of the continuous tyrants Goven did not know anything but following their own selfish whims.
So: the scout does not accuse anyone, but only warns of the danger that lurks behind the choice of Caesar himself.


I think you may be underestimating the Caesar of Fallout. It's quite likely that he is the most classically educated person on the continent. If he had access to a large library, he probably already read the primary sources that your scout thinks he's never seen. Some of those books probably survived the Great War, after all, they had already survived two thousand years and are in every good library in the United States. He has probably already read the books written by the real Caesar, Tacitus, Suetonius, etc... He probably devoured them. He seems to be very familiar with Caesar's "Gallic War" at the very least. He probably already knows what happened in the years after the real Caesar's assassination, and Octavian, and all the Julio-Claudians. The man lectured me on Hegel, for God's sake. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if I found out he had read Gibbon as well.

But the Fallout Legion, for all it's trappings, bears little real resemblance to the actual Roman Empire, and the Fallout Caesar knows he's dying, and for some inexplicable reason has chosen Lanius as his sucessor, rather than the far more Octavian-like Vulpes Inculta. Why? Because he's not the real Caesar, and events in the wasteland will play out far differently from those in the real Rome. The metaphor only goes so far.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:04 am

Anonimo your idea makes no sense whatsoever.

how would europe or italy have the means to rebuild itself entirely (if i remember correctly the were more damaged then america)

how would a lawyer or a scout make there way to america, and if they did, how would the report back, and even if they did that, why would they care about Caesars legion.

if they tried to Sue him he would have the beheaded. i still dont understand what your talking about with Mr.house.

then you explain yourself by saying, if you lived in my country you would understand. i still dont see how thats relevent

Also,No not everything is possible within the fallout universe. this idea makes about as much since as a Minigun that shoot flaming chainsaws.

i have a feeling you just want your country to be mentioned in a fallout game, and this is the only way you could think of it happening.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:54 am

Is this a Fable title?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:06 am

It might, but I doubt it. Look at the American radiated animals. Europe is MUCH more densly populated so there would be many more deaths on the initial nuking, many more would die in the weeks following, and the radiated animals would get the rest.

And the NCR is a nation only because the Vault Dweller took care of the Master.


So your saying its just not possible. Well I dont think that is the case. They would also have more people survive adn tehy would have more people to rebuild with adn there is no Master Army in Europe because there was no FEV in Europe so tehy would not have that hindering them. Plus there is no Masters army in DC why could tehy have not rebuilt years ago. Why? because the game creators made it that way. Well never visit Europe (they said tehy want to keep it American) so the most we will ever get is hints through characters or some such.

Saying its not possible is completely wrong.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:53 am

So your saying its just not possible. Well I dont think that is the case. They would also have more people survive adn tehy would have more people to rebuild with adn there is no Master Army in Europe because there was no FEV in Europe so tehy would not have that hindering them. Plus there is no Masters army in DC why could tehy have not rebuilt years ago. Why? because the game creators made it that way. Well never visit Europe (they said tehy want to keep it American) so the most we will ever get is hints through characters or some such.

Saying its not possible is completely wrong.

Europe was destroying themselves before the bombs even dropped.

plus VaultTech were an american company, so there were no Vaults to keep the people safe
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:07 pm

Rioting in Europe after if disolved into many states is a given. There would hardly be a goverment, so people would be fighting over anything and everything.

There is also no government in the most of the US, but 200 years ahs gone by and nations and governments are foerming, this could easily happen in Europe too.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:04 am

There is also no government in the most of the US, but 200 years ahs gone by and nations and governments are foerming, this could easily happen in Europe too.


I meant right before the Great War.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:17 am

I'm suprised a Mod has'nt locked this thread.. Its pretty much just flames.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:19 am

However, he does not denounce or Caesar immediately attacks him, but simply advises him, showed all the documentation in this regard and suggested (not ordered, suggested) ferare of each activity before the Grand Army of the European Union find out what is combining him in America (In fact, Caesar would have committed crimes against humanity, which in Europe are still valid, but the Scout, to avoid "legal problems" with Caesar, the only exposed the problem of violation of Copyight)


I think I see it now......we're looking at a "Blue Dawn" scenario where the mighty forces of the EUSSR invade what's left of the US to recolonize us "for our own good". :lol: The NCR, Enclave, BoS and CL have to band together to prevent the Brussels Regime from making us finally go metric. I wonder if they could get Jeremy Clarkson to voice the leader of the EUSSR "Peacekeeper" forces.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:05 pm

I've been trying to make head and tail of this thread most of the day - amazed it's still going actually.. I haven't a clue what the OP is trying to say but I'm sure it's crystal clear in his head and native tongue, it's just something got lost in translation and having read and re-read and then re-read some of the OP's points.. my head hurts. Think I'll go and play NV for a while.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:08 am

What hes suggesting: Italy has reformed together in a state or something, They rebuild society, They have Solar Powered Planes, And send them all around the world, And this one scout guy that they sent around the world, Happens to go into West America, And sees Caesar, So he now wants to sue them for using Italys History by means of Copyright Infringement.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:41 pm

Nevermind :flamethrower: :ahhh:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:20 am

What hes suggesting: Italy has reformed together in a state or something, They rebuild society, They have Solar Powered Planes, And send them all around the world, And this one scout guy that they sent around the world, Happens to go into West America, And sees Caesar, So he now wants to sue them for using Italys History by means of Copyright Infringement.


:facepalm: for real? no fooling?

OMG, the OP is insane.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:56 am

Yup, No joke.

:confused: I don't understand it at all even when I explained it.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 9:45 pm

damn this could be a funny ten minute cartoon lol or a one shot comic
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:00 pm

wat?
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Peter P Canning
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:54 am

:facepalm: for real? no fooling?

OMG, the OP is insane.

he also suggested santa themed DLC for New Vegas.

Lego Fallout (Akin to Lego Starwars)

and some other ones
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:01 am

plus VaultTech were an american company, so there were no Vaults to keep the people safe

bit of a none issue really dude, McDonalds and Coca-Cola are both American companies... doesn't stop us buying Big-macs and coke though.
Microsoft is also American my laptop is still running windows...

Europe IMO would, if organized at all, most likely be one gigantic Germany or Russia... UK would probably be independant from the continent.

what I think is more likely however, is a series of feudal "kingdoms" which are constantly at war, much like the fallout US

and to the OP, why would communist China of the fallout universe open a mega-casino? seems a little un-communist to me...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:36 am

bit of a none issue really dude, McDonalds and Coca-Cola are both American companies... doesn't stop us buying Big-macs and coke though.
Microsoft is also American my laptop is still running windows...

Europe IMO would, if organized at all, most likely be one gigantic Germany or Russia... UK would probably be independant from the continent.

what I think is more likely however, is a series of feudal "kingdoms" which are constantly at war, much like the fallout US

and to the OP, why would communist China of the fallout universe open a mega-casino? seems a little un-communist to me...

About the Vault thing, that would be like us selling the Nazis missiles in WW2. if they weren't the enemy we might have supplied them with vaults.

As for the OP, i think he is just from Italy, and he wants it to be fallout Cannon that his country made a full recovery soon after the war, and then became extremely technologically advanced, surpassing the technology of the before the war. Like he just wants his country to be "the winner"
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:31 pm

See where you're coming from with the nazi-missile point, but knowing what I know about vault-tec I still think they would of sold vaults to Europe... they are evil and CRAZY!

I'm from the UK and I'd hate to see fallout content set here, "why, 'ello guv'na giz ya caps or I'll stick ya wiv me bumbershoot!"

Oh the humanity! dike van Dyke has a lot to answer for.

If I'm honest I only posted to be part of the insanest thread i've ever seen! :P
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:02 am

See where you're coming from with the nazi-missile point, but knowing what I know about vault-tec I still think they would of sold vaults to Europe... they are evil and CRAZY!

I'm from the UK and I'd hate to see fallout content set here, "why, 'ello guv'na giz ya caps or I'll stick ya wiv me bumbershoot!"

Oh the humanity! dike van Dyke has a lot to answer for.

If I'm honest I only posted to be part of the insanest thread i've ever seen! :P


Its okay jimmeny, We fo'giv' ya gov'na.

now giz'me ye caps befer i blow tha wondofo fac' off wif' mah bangsmick.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:20 am

See where you're coming from with the nazi-missile point, but knowing what I know about vault-tec I still think they would of sold vaults to Europe... they are evil and CRAZY!

I'm from the UK and I'd hate to see fallout content set here, "why, 'ello guv'na giz ya caps or I'll stick ya wiv me bumbershoot!"

Oh the humanity! dike van Dyke has a lot to answer for.

If I'm honest I only posted to be part of the insanest thread i've ever seen! :P

you should have seen his post about. Lego Fallout (like Lego star wars)

or the one about santa appearing, and him wielding a fat-man named "Fat Santa"
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