From The Vault, but i've can just think what's happened. But is possible who before the Bombs some European nations make a lot of pace accord to survive against this terrible problem of the war. Expecially the Weak nations like Greece, Italy, Spain, Ireland, Portugal and Switzerland, who which indicated neutral to the conflict

Yes, but Italy has a copyright to enforce, so they've got scouts scouring the planet to make sure nobody's in violation and their scout finds out Caesar's Legion owes them a big chunk of licensing money for not getting permission before re-enacting portions of ancient Italian history, see? Nuclear devastation is certainly inconvenient, but we've got a Culture Copyright to protect here, don't you get it?

(Yeah...neither do I.) :shrug:

That info comes from FO1 and is canon. The world went to hell. EU is gone. Look at EU now with the money touble its having. Now picture the EU with no Oil/Gas no more Uranium. United States tells them to go to hell and closes its boarders. A nuclear war with middle east. Its clear what happened to Europe.

But the thing is, you're basically running a conspiracy theory. Until proven otherwise, Europe as a whole is as much a blasted crater as America, and judging from canon sources, it is a bombed out husk like America. But I suppose it is somehow possible to get to the US from Europe, I mean, Moriarty and Tenpenny came here from Ireland and England respectively.

Yep and someone should inform Mongolia about the Khans so they can get in on the law suit.

Ok but is possible who during this war, the scientist of the UE discovers new energy resource who can help the Europe, and after this finish the conflict against the middle east, but with serious damnages maked by the bombs.

No kidding...and any living descendants of Priscilla Presley will be giving the Kings hell in court.

Gotta admit, not quite what I think of when I think post-apocalyptic...but it does have its Hellish side, eh?

Possible, but unless proven by a future game, it's only speculation, a farfetched one at that.

but they are all dead.

(I do declairh)

If they did then why were they fighting one another till the Bombs fell? Plus America would findout so would China. Plus they were fighting one another closing their boarders I doubt they would have much chace of getting Cold Fusion right, well cold fusion was around but they would not have the fuel to do it. Canon says EU gone Europe is blasted like every where else.

I suppose it's possible you can throw out canon and rewrite the entire Fallout story to be about Italy roaming the wastes enforcing a copyright.

It's also about 99.999999999999999% unlikely any developer will take your ideas and run with them.

They'll probably stick with the existing storyline where Europe is a smoking radioactive hole like the rest of the planet.

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As unfair to Europeans as it may sound, I doubt Devs will really invest time into making a Fallout Europe game. My reason is that Fallout at it's core is 'AMERICA!' gone wrong. The past 'utopia' of the world remaining as monolithic reminders of a generation long faded into the wind. placing the game anywhere else would take away from that core gameplay piece, or so I feel.

funniest line I've read today. Stop making me laugh so hard or my coworkers will get curious.

Guys, I've removed some posts from this thread. If I have to remove any more pointless messages or ones that defy the boundaries of these forums, I will be forced to do more than simply delete them.

Thanks,

Milt

Yah to enforce copy right infringement in Post-Nuclear America seems like a good waste of money.

Telling Caesar he owes you money is a little stupid, tehy have bigger problems then a copyright infringement. And how would they enforce it. Send an army, tehy are not that advanced. There are hardly any land vehicles to be seen I doubt they could build boats, planes airships or steam vessels to kill Caesar.

It would make a good joke, it there was a lawyer at the Fort who tried to get you to help him get an audience with Caesar so he could help him solve the problem before the Italians sue. Really it would just be a big joke adn he is just a crazy American who got his hands on pre-war documents.

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mmm.... you have make me an intersting idea.
in 2077 the nukes fall down but, they hit America and China. In the Fallout History there is not good explaine if this 77 Bombs hit also the Europe.
America and China are very big not like the Europe, so is possible who Europe obtaine little damnage not like the nuclear winther of America and China, so is also possible who the Europe continue his war against the middle east, but finish with an accord who they don't invade and attack both for the energy resource, because in Europe was discovered the Cold Fusion in Sweden, but at cause of
lack of funds available, not all areas of the EU can build cetral cold fusion, and another war breaks out here, this main civil case, because the political corruption had ruined the chances of many European countries to afford a central cold fusion. I was very Civilized Europe The North and the South Europe receded in a sort of middle age, even if the conflict had to fade for a moment because of the huge release of radiation into the atmosphere. Fortunately, Europe did not have a terrible devastation as the American one, but more like that of the Second World War.
After this brief isolation lasted almost 30 years, the Europeans decided to make peace and to rebuild what they were losing: their Europe

Thats alot of assumptions.

But returning to the speech before, I diced that this Scout to map sent by the European Union and sifting the ruins of the USA, he discovered by chance, the Legion is not that the companies glorose Dicesare come to Europe after the fall of the bombs the EU does not know anything about what happened in the rest of the world: the telecommunications and satellite radio have done to stop or continue to transmit work but I scored weak or almost dead.
So, when Scout finds out the Legion, he feels a duty to stop this monster that Caesar has created (after all, has seen mutilations, beheadings, slavery, torture and violence of any kind). However, he does not denounce or Caesar immediately attacks him, but simply advises him, showed all the documentation in this regard and suggested (not ordered, suggested) ferare of each activity before the Grand Army of the European Union find out what is combining him in America
(In fact, Caesar would have committed crimes against humanity, which in Europe are still valid, but the Scout, to avoid "legal problems" with Caesar, the only exposed the problem of violation of Copyight)

HA - thanks for this threat! just LOL'd my ass off

awesome - made my day!

@OP: you must be a lawyer or something like that in real life, right? the only people who'd think that sueing someone half the globe away in a post nuclear world is a good idea....

great.

cheers,


PS: i just thought - there was this other guy who had an idea about a DLC with a kind of dimensional portal that links kind of to the Oblivion world. wouldn't that be a great way for the Italians to get across the Atlantic Ocean? The two of you should team up to create a DLC, I am sure you'd get a price (most likely from Comedy Central...)

Eh? :stare: :blink:

What are you think?

Look: "ITALY IN THE FALLOUT UNIVERSE IS NOT A SUPER POWER, IS A STATE IN A CONFEDERATION, WHO COLLABORATE TO REBUILD THE WORLD"

"THE SCOUT WHO DISCOVER THE CAESAR'S LEGION WAS ITALIAN, BUT WITH A GROUP OF OTHERS EUROPEANS"
"HE WANT STOPED THE LEGION'S CRUELTY, BUT HE ADVICE CAESAR WHO THERE ARE LIMITS WHO HE HAS VIOLATED"
"
Understand?

I think we do. And it makes no sense, and has no place in the Fallout universe. For an idea like this, they would have to retcon and make unnecessary change. I'm sorry, but this idea simply isn't very good. Besides, I imagine this Italian being killed or enslaved after Caesar laughs in his face.

In your rewrite, maybe. In canon it seems to be a ruined rubble heap like the rest of the planet.



The idea's fatal flaw is still the same: No matter how many nations you claim this scouting group is made up of, all of them are still from smoking radioactive craters that used to be countries, yet the best thing they can think of to do is go around enforcing international copyrights.

Understand?

Perhaps they'd have problems at home, like maybe surviving, that would keep them too occupied to go globetrotting around filing lawsuits?

Understand?

You think that does not make sense? I'm just trying to create a correct explanation.
However, I do not put him scout enters powerfully into the camp of Caesar, in fact we are in a peaceful manner, as an ambassador who brings gifts from his land (which this case vocabularies on European languages, the Ancient Roman books (of course in English) that Caesar had never seen.
I am sure that Caesar did not consider what happened after the Gens Julia (which became extinct with the suicide of Nero, and that after his death, the legion is likely to escalate as so happens in Rome because of the continuous tyrants Goven did not know anything but following their own selfish whims.
So: the scout does not accuse anyone, but only warns of the danger that lurks behind the choice of Caesar himself.

You quoted me before I made a change. Cold Fusion was around but the fuel to get it to work was almost gone. Sorry to go off Topic. Anyway sorry to tell you this yet again but Europe is gone along with the rest of the world. Fallout One and Two make the clear even FO3. World Ended. No counties left untouched. Europe was at one anothers throats. A thousand plus years of mutual mistrust and hatred out weighted a 100 years or so of european unity. The war of 2077 was not just between China and America. Your dream of an Italy untouched or rebuilt like Rome and united with other European nations also untouched is a dream that goes against canon.