As has been said, it was mentioned in at least Fallout 1 that Europe had by the time of the Final War degenerated into a frenzy of self immolation fighting each other and the Middle East. Plus the Obliteration of the Final War all but consumed the Entire Planet, which if you look at it logically means that Europe, the Middle East etc would be reduced to smouldering ruins which if anyone was unlucky ? enough to survive would have their work cut out for them just to survive let alone even think about considering to try to find out how the rest of the world fared.

Basically when the Nukes flew the European countries were busy trying to bomb each other and the middle east back to the stone ages, so it's extremely doubtfull that there were many if at all any survivors.


Yes I am European but going by the Fallout Universe lore, it wouldn't make sense to base a Fallout Game in Europe given what is stated in the Lore, which includes 'expeditionary' forces from there as well in the guise of DLC.

Yes, for indeed there were some nations that have been saved: but not everyone can own all the European countries have been sprayed in meo than three seconds. You should also see the economic request the availability of all nations, and only those who actually declared war on the Middle East, has seen losing everything because of war resources. It 's also worth remembering that the war can only do those who have money to spend. Certainly the nations that have had the good sense they realized the seriousness of the situation and that it was impossible to extract energy resources to the Middle East: the only alternative was to work together to find new energy efficient and safe. So there must have been necessarily neutral states.

Then start by working in the correct setting: All these "scouts" are from radioactive craters. What sense does it make for them to give a tinker's damn what's going on across the ocean when life in their own country (such as it is) is nearly impossible?

Start by making sense of that, then go from there.

Again where are you getting your info? Myself and other have said many times no nations survived. Everyone was nuked during the great war. Thats why it was a World War "the storm of world war had come again." Entire world reduced to cinders"

wait explain this to me, so italy was rebuilt after the war and now they are sending people to sue Mr.House (or Caesar) for money because they are making a mockery of Italy... can you please explain Anonimo

There are no neutral states during the Resources war.

Everyone wanted to keep resources to themselves, Or wanted to take resources.

They all killed each other.

The main problem with your premise is that it presumes that the appropiate leaders of the European countries had some uncommon sense, which we all know is something that all politicians lack and it's usually a lot easier for things to get worse than it is for things to get better when in the situation that they were in.

All it would take for the the entirity of Europe to devolve into a total warzone would be for just one country to attack the rest or even just some of the rest and the others who were not involved would quickly be drawn into the intercine conflict in a futile attempt to get some sort of stability in the very volatile situation. Once things had kicked off all it would take to get another country involved is that it 'looks' (from the other countries point of view) like the aggresive country is going to attack them, even if the manouver which sparked that conflict was a feint to distract another opponent to moving out of position.

Given all this plus the nuclear devestation I would say that it is extremely unlikely if not impossible that any country emerged even slightly singed let alone unscathed.

OP, I don't think you understand. No matter how much you think a poor country would aim for political neutrality or partnerships, in the Fallout canon, meaning the canonical order, Europe, meaning the entire continent, was emblazoned into war, Italy, last I checked, counts in the European box. Maybe in your own fan fiction this could happen, but as the game stands, if they tried to play nice and go up to Caesar and say 'Young man, you're being very very naughty, stop it or its time out for you mister' Caesar'd likely have you booted back across the river if you're lucky, and crucified or have your head staked at worst.

Crucified at worst, And beheaded if you are lucky.

Noooo!
The Europe was Rebuild. just a scout who discover Cesar who copy the Roman's Culture.
Mr House buy just the Venetian Resort and make the Lucky 38

Well man, I'm sorry to tell you but this theory would Retcon the entire series.

You could try making this a fan fiction though.

You think? I've just explaine this like a possible conseguence. And remeber: there is not just america after the atomic post apocalipse but all parts of the world, and because Fallout New Vegas make some refernce from Italy:
-Caesar's legion
-Michel Angelo
-Omertas

His story makes more sense than the one of Fallout 3, honestly.

Omertas - Mafia
Micheal Angelo - Got his name from Micheal angelo, Which he knew from books.
Caesar's Legion - Books.

Thanks

While it may make more sense than Fallout 3's, it still contradicts the Fallout Lore as established by Fallout 1, which to boil it down to it's bare essentials is that the Human Race except for a couple of isolated spots was obliterated. Plus as has been mentioned Europe had degenerated into what amounted to warring states with each attacking the rest and also the middle east due to the Global lack of resources (mainly Oil) and thus would not be in a position to feasably survive the nuclear storm which engulfed the entire world at the pinnacle/end of the final war.

yes, but the books who explaine the history of the Italy

Actually, the book that Caesar read was about Romans, Not Rome/Italy.

Micheal Angelo may have just read a biogrophy, And Mafia is part of Americas history too.

I think they only had information about the Roman Empire. Your theory is reasonable, but in the Fallout world it is different. Everyone was at war.

Mafia was imported by the sicilians (italians) who became a part of the American history
The Roman History is a part of the italian's Past. If you say Rome is the Capital of Italy.

And...? "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCsYfNuUWwk" makes more sense than Fallout 3. :shrug:

But unlike the OP's fanfic, it doesn't require retconning the entire Great War.

When people want to imitate the mafia They don't look at where they come from, They look at what they do.

Learning about Romans is Learning about the Romans themselves, Not about the history of Italy.

look, if you live for 20 years in my country, maybe you can change your point of view.

But the game is'nt in your country, It's in america, I'm just saying what our view is.

Total irrelevance FTW? :rolleyes: