» Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:28 pm PLEASE READ THIS TOPIC AND THE DISCLAIMER AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS POST!
If you don't educate yourself on the topic at hand then you can't make the best vote.
It was asking if the lightweights should have access to the light shotgun this poll is a spin off topic on HOW if it were to be implemented they should go about it.
The options on the table will first be split up into the topic at hand on how to go about it. And then understanding the evolving demographic from the previous poll. Alot has happened since then. Alot of arguments were made and alot of people who were once undecided NOW have experience in the game to make a decision. Its important to understand how things change and how much of the poll is repeating itself and trending.
I'll re post the other polls OP just because i know some of you wont head my "read the topic" label along the top. -.- Just to provide minimal background.
I feel that the lightweight model is designed to be the quick and agile to offset poor health and fragile.
but I believe that the "out run" model just isnt effective. It doesn't have any guns with firepower other than the snipers (which combined with enhanced climbing actually makes a good combo) but there isn't anything that provides enough for a 1 on 1 situation in most of the tight spaces that these map designs have. Many of the objectives warrant such needs but seeing as you can't change body types mid match to fit a situation (nor should you be able to IMO.) there should be more you can do with that body type firepower wise. I dont mean just throwing the assault rifles into their arsenal as that renders the midweight pointless. But i can completely see the shotguns which rely on closing the distance before dying being a great way to atleast take 1 person with you in a 2 mid-weights on 1 situation. Its not to say that drum SMG's isn't effective so much as it doesn't do the class justice and play to its "strengths" in any way. Running around and going close quarters with such guns really has no difference in effect vs going mid range. And running say in a room you are supposed to defend is quite hopeless. You can't "out run" and shoot people at the same time with an SMG. Leaving the lightweights in the dust behind in my mind - superior middleweights. They can't really go to TOO many places that the middleweights can't, and going back to the model about "out running" i see the light shotgun as being the perfect solution.
it brings firepower to kill a middleweight SHOULD YOU PLAY YOUR BODY TYPE ADVANTAGE - (out running and closing the distance faster) - It doesn't nerf the classes downsides of being fragile. If you can get the shot off before they close the distance or you can keep track of them you STILL very much win. And in a 2 on 1 situation they probably will only get 1 of you which is how it should be in my opinion.
It fits perfectly with the lightweight class and I personally would like to see them get access to it.
but I believe that the "out run" model just isnt effective. It doesn't have any guns with firepower other than the snipers (which combined with enhanced climbing actually makes a good combo) but there isn't anything that provides enough for a 1 on 1 situation in most of the tight spaces that these map designs have. Many of the objectives warrant such needs but seeing as you can't change body types mid match to fit a situation (nor should you be able to IMO.) there should be more you can do with that body type firepower wise. I dont mean just throwing the assault rifles into their arsenal as that renders the midweight pointless. But i can completely see the shotguns which rely on closing the distance before dying being a great way to atleast take 1 person with you in a 2 mid-weights on 1 situation. Its not to say that drum SMG's isn't effective so much as it doesn't do the class justice and play to its "strengths" in any way. Running around and going close quarters with such guns really has no difference in effect vs going mid range. And running say in a room you are supposed to defend is quite hopeless. You can't "out run" and shoot people at the same time with an SMG. Leaving the lightweights in the dust behind in my mind - superior middleweights. They can't really go to TOO many places that the middleweights can't, and going back to the model about "out running" i see the light shotgun as being the perfect solution.
it brings firepower to kill a middleweight SHOULD YOU PLAY YOUR BODY TYPE ADVANTAGE - (out running and closing the distance faster) - It doesn't nerf the classes downsides of being fragile. If you can get the shot off before they close the distance or you can keep track of them you STILL very much win. And in a 2 on 1 situation they probably will only get 1 of you which is how it should be in my opinion.
It fits perfectly with the lightweight class and I personally would like to see them get access to it.
EDIT:
Why did you feel the need to start yet another poll on this topic ... perhaps you didnt like the results you were getting? Your first choice in this current poll is a non-choice for those of us who feel that lights should not have a shotgun at all, and therefore discourages folks who feel that way from voting at all. Its whats known as "push polling."
This poll is a choice. You do not have to vote on it nor do you have to read it. It was put up after input in the previous poll showing that there was complications on the implementation and many suggesting a sawed off etc etc. If you would also read the question carefully it is all theoretical to begin with.
" IF shotguns WERE implemented what would be the favored and BALANCED way in the communities mind? "
There are capitol letters for a reason.
And If you would like i can add a disclaimer that tells people to NOT vote if they don't like the options. Although i think that that should be obvious as it is.
but if everyone isn't as you are suggesting and I am "poll pushing" i have no problems appeasing this thought. I will NOT how ever alter my question and include "they shouldnt get one at all" as that is NOT the question i am trying to ask and it skews to poll to have all those in favor of shotguns split up and then those who said no in the last poll to have an option to repeat their vote. There is no reason to have 2 of the same poll. this poll applies only to those who were undecided or said yes.
If you wish to vote for NO shotguns on the lightweight class please use the topic listed above. It includes the options you are looking for and was answering that question.
Some of you apparently can't read even though its plastered all over the place so I'm making it EVEN BIGGER. >_>
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