I have a little problem over here.

Problem is that even after spending more than two hours searching for even one artifact, I don't find anything. There's one chest, but is locked and I can't find key to open it. What I should do?

BTW amazing mod. Just started playing Oblivion again and this was first mod what I decided to try. Good job!

Ouch, now I feel sorry for myself for searching deadly light sabers and shiny crystal armors from a Bandit camp. Well, thanks anyway, now I can continue to next quest!

I'm have the same problem, seems strange as this is the third time I've played it.
Another Spire is in my completed quests list and all i can get is Buy Posters, any help will be great.

Stax

go away for a few hours and come back and you should be able to talk to them normally again, I had the same issue and I just waited a couple hours outside I think and then went in.

I have to say I love this mod it's one of the few quest mods I use so far and the only faction mod I've used sofar and absolutely love it! I love all the unique loot! I think my favorite so far is the

As some of you probably are aware of, if you install my mod http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1037276&st=0&p=15031092&#entry15031092, all the lost spires will have a unique spire icon, instead of the general landmark icon

[quote name='Arumath' date='Sep 9 2009, 03:52 AM' post='15037690']
go away for a few hours and come back and you should be able to talk to them normally again, I had the same issue and I just waited a couple hours outside I think and then went in.

Well I have waited (went and did some town quests) and have been away for at least a week and I still only get the "Buy poster" options.

Any further ideas on how to get the next quest started?

And I made the very silly mistake of putting the item you mentioned into a cupboard in the guild and of course it has now gone...
i can't believe i made that mistake. Not worried about that though, I just want to get the quest line going again.

Stax

I've played through as far as finishing the Bloodvine Mine (yeah, pretty early in, I know), and I have a couple questions:

In Bloodvine Mine I found the Ancient Lair Key and I found a gated alcove that requires a key. But my Ancient Lair Key won't open the gate. (I double-checked to make certain I actually have the key in my inventory.) Could the fact that I use P1DKeychain be the cause of this?
Not a bug exactly, but why is so much stuff in the Archeology Guild free for the taking? It's like Christmas in there!

And I'm really loving this mod so far. The first Spire was beautiful, and after playing so little I can already tell you have a real knack for dungeon layout and design. Such a refreshment after the Vanilla designs!

gothemasticator

I'm just starting out on this mod and encounter a slight problem.

My character just entered the first spire (where Teav said to clear out the ruin) and it's lagging like crazy (slideshow).

My PC is pretty decent (Core2Duo E6750, 8800GT, 4GB RAM) with medium textures and no high quality texture packs, no bloom, or HDR. Although I do have FCOM installed, but it shouldn't be this bad.

Load order sorted by BOSS. Just wondering if there is any suggestion.

Hi all,

I wanted to play The Lost Spires again, but as soon as I come close to the guild, I CTD. I've tried coming from different angle, but I always crash, no matter what. I've played this mod before with a pretty heavy modded oblivion. My new install has even more mods, so I'd like to know if there is anything wrong in my load order. It has been sorted by BOSS, I've rebuild my patch, I did a clean save. I don't know what to try next. Here is the mod list:

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Thanks!

How old is your BOSS masterlist? 'Cause, off the bat, Darnified Books.esp is made obsolete by the Wrye Bash function, Map Marker Overhaul should go way higher in the list, like before DLCs, Streamline can go after the bashed patch, and I'm pretty sure Deadly Reflex does, too.

You've got the Lost Spires - Dark Forest Patch, so that shouldn't be a problem.

gothemasticator

Thanks, I just went to Nexus and grabbed the latest master file for boss. It reorganized a few things. I'm currently rebuilding my patch. Let's hope it's as easy as that.

edit: no luck. I have a read memory error. I guess the problem lies elsewhere. I'll start deactivating mods to see who's the bad boy.

Okay I know this was posted months ago, I'm not completely retarded. Just wanted to add something here as I had the same problem. When I first went to the excavation site there were no people, just the tents etc. I explored everything, even the funny tent with an outside, but which had an invisible inside ???? I could enter the tent but see right through it. On the outside it was all there.
Anyhow I got rather annoyed, went off and slaughtered my way through a ruin or 2 and came back. No change.

So EXIT. Next day load game and the camp is there as it should be, npc's and tent with a door.

Gota love this game, it sure keeps you on your toes

Hey...forgot...I truly see this as one of the most professional mods I've come across. The minor glitches I've come across are all things even Beth managed to do as well. The writing is outstanding and the design work is beautiful. Well done Liquid

This may have come up before, but I'm not about to search through 12 threads to see. Anyway, I finally decided to embark on this questline after having ignored it for ages, and I must say it's great. I love the extensive dungeons and you've put so much into new content; the voice acting is (mostly) excellent, and the mix of interaction and adventuring is very enjoyable; it's great. But...

I've found myself in TES4Edit looking for stuff a couple of times, and it's only because I've stumbled upon various locations central to the questline way before starting it, only to find myself stumped now when I go back to follow a quest mission and some key element is missing.

This happened in the , where I had killed weeks ago and had to find out what artifact I'd taken from him that I now needed; and it happened in the , very similar situation. Then I read the spoilers section to figure out what happened and I read that in the there's a room to which the key is , and I can't help but think 'Damn! Where was that? Now I have to find out what I missed in the locked room!'. That part's not terrible, but having to quit the game to load up TES4Edit is a pain...

I guess what I'm saying is that either the artifacts should be quest items and a script should track them for when they are appropriate to the quests, or the locations should be off-limits til the questline needs them. What do you think? Has it come up before?

Can I get some nudges as to what I'm searching for in the hollow tree? I've been wandering for what feels like hours and nothing of interest has been spotted yet.

Unfortunately the author of this mod has deemed that he will no longer support it. I found this out by emailing the address given on the mods website. If you do not believe me you can send an email to info@lostspires,com

I too am having problems in the bandit layer. I actually got the key due to high acrobatic skills and opened the chest. Good loot but not the Alyeid scroll you need,

The bandit leader appearing was odd. It didn't actually trigger until I tried to sleep in the tent. My problem is I looted the chest in the tent before I killed the bandit leader so now I'm hoping beyond hope that I can just do a Player.AddItem to fix it. I loaded the mod in the CS and it took me a while to find the actual scroll editor ID. Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't.

My gripe here is:

1. Support your mod, dude. I have companions out there that have been out for a couple years and I STILL support them. Do or do not, there is no try. When you write a FAQ and tell people to go to it you need to appeal to the lowest common denominator, that's me. I'm a maroon.

2. I have serious issues with the entire bandit lair quest. I mean, I'm the last one that should be talking about foolproof quests but this one just doesn't make sense at all.

I'm not trying to be an ass but I'm a Principal level Software QA Engineer and I take support issues seriously.

And modding is a hobby. Players and creators drop in and drop out. Sometimes motivated individuals pick up the torch when somebody drops it, sometimes not. If we were paying for products and service, I might agree with you, but we're not, so I don't.

I have stopped using mods that I can't find support for. It's a little sad to see a little piece of beauty go neglected and be forgotten, but it's nothing to get angry about.

gothemasticator

In the Fifth Spire, after reading Solan's diary it tells me to 'investigate.' I have been through the whole of Luminai and the Fifth Spire, but there is nothing there to further the quest. What do I do?

Sharonhorste:
I think that after reading the diary actually it should say to .

The events should go like this:
1. )

If all else fails you can try this in the console:

Good luck

No need to email, he stated this on the site

"22. Q: Lost Spires has lots of potential; it can be made much better. Are you planning to extend it?
A: Lost Spires is not a "potential", it's a complete, released project. Yes, many aspects can be improved upon, and it can certainly be extended in myriad ways. I've dedicated as much time as I thought necessary to this project in order to wrap it up. The rest I leave to the modding community, which is free to extend LS as they see fit."
"23. Q: Lost Spires is great, do you have another mod in the works?
A: Realize that LS took 1500 hours to create, and is now costing many hours to maintain. Such a project is not undertaken lightly. I no longer have the time or resources to mod full-time. No new project is currently planned."

From the same FAQ:

"12. Q: I've cleared out the Bandit Lair but haven't found any signs of Dwyff, the bandit leader I was supposed to kill.
A: Sometimes enemies wander off or teleport to strange, unreachable locations. If you can't find Dwyff, open the console and type: "setStage ARVengeance 80"."
"25. Q: I've killed Dywff, the bandit leader, but don't know what to do now. The quest isn't updating.
A: "

Hope this helps if you're still stuck

I managed to get past it by adding it through the console. I haven't had any issues since then.

For giant quest mods like these that have or can have so many problems, I copy the FAQ/walkthrough and add a new book to my players inventory via the CS. So, if something goes wrong or if I get hopelessly lost and it's something I can fix with a /command or just need directions, it's an inventory click away.

I have one book I call 'Guides and Commands For the Nine Divines' which has a list of those preexisting useful commands, and lots of commands and helpful hints from/for smaller mods. But, things like the Lost Spires and Heart of the Dead having so many possible problems/bugs, with such long walkthroughs, they get there own book.

DUDE. That is a great idea. I never would have thought of that. :blink:

The part at the very end was brutal. I had to cheat or reload from the beginning. That was my fault but yeeesh.

Hehe, yea. I wish more modders would include such things in there mods. At least the large mods as described above. "wink-wink-nudge-nudge"

I've thought about uploading my books for other people to use a few times, but never get around to it. Would I even need permission to do so?

Hey guys and gals! Just dropped in to see if the thread maxed out yet, and then started reading through all the comments and getting all nostalgic. About the technical issues, sorry about that, but I don't have time too field individual email questions any longer. I hope the http://www.lostspires.com/pages/faqs.htm and the helpful folks here can sort you out.

Wow, it's been a wild ride for me since this mod came out. I always dreamed of working at a professional game studio on a AAA title so I made this mod as a portfolio piece. Luckily things came together and it actually directly led to my being hired by 2k Boston. So I moved from California to Boston to work on their new project. Over the course of a year in Boston I learned many things from the designers there. Quality-wise, Lost Spires seems like a kindergarden sketch by comparison, but the passion that went into it still surprises me. Anyhow, after working at 2k for a year, I started to long for the independence of yore. There's something especially satisfying about being able to sit in a basemant for 8 months and do whatever you damn well please. So, I decided to go indie. Problem was, I had no money. So I started a web development company with my bro to raise capital for future game projects. It had to be a business that brought in entirely passive income (so I could have time to develop games). It was a real grind a first because I really just wanted to make games, but it was necessary. A year later, the business is doing great, and now we're moving on to develop a large web 2.0 site. The plan is to spend another year or two developing sites to get enough money to start making games. I won't be modding any more, but I will come back full circle -- because this stuff is a blast!

For aspiring developers out there, if you have a vision, don't just dream it, produce it -- even if you don't know how. It's incredibly rewarding. And don't give me the old, "I can't mod as well as you" routine. I couldn't mod at all before LS. Let the vision drive the process. If you're passionate about it, you will be successful. Thanks for all the kind words!

-Liquid