We could form a militia to help. We're trying to form one from weapons from the Powder Gangers and the Legion but if House were to help us fund a police force they wouldn't have to patrol the settlements. They could quickly respond to any issue that rises.

The militia is armed well enough weapon wise but a police force would need pistols, shotguns, and they both need combat armor.


To be fair on his part the Followers are an outside group, no matter how trustworthy and helpful they are.

No offense intended of course.

By the way, if you gain enough numbers do you think perhaps you would want to open a small clinic in every major settlement to New Vegas? The Mojave is still dangerous and the Followers are the best at patching up the wounded. Just a suggestion though.

Interesting idea that I have to somewhat agree with, they did help to destroy the world and give us this mess. I will think of a design suggestion.

Maybe, it might take a few months. But yes, once your caravan starts and we get the settlement in Red Rock going we should have the manpower and supplies to do that.

Ambassador Draiman-Mr. House

The Old World was quite a peaceful time to live in, the century before the great war. I'd certainly rather live in that time than live in a post-apocalyptic world. But perhaps.

We will all come up with something for a flag.

OOC: I'm gonna start on the map, I'll post it later if I can get it to work.

It will definantly take a while but since the Followers are becoming a sort of national medical faction it makes sense.


What about giving a police force caravan shotguns, 9mm pistols, and combat armor. I have changed my mind a bit, the weapons we have now for our militia are decent but taken from our enemies and are mostly pistols and machetes. If we could get our hands on Battle Rifles (M1 Garands), 12.7mm sub machine guns, .45 auto pistols (M1911s), and combat armor then we could enforce House's rule like no other.

Of course this is very expensive so we plan to have a 12% tax on everything in our state, houses, items bought, items sold, services paid for, and in a time of economic emergency pay tolls, 8% of that will go to House. That may not seem like much but with the amount of times that will happen in a single month House will be repayed within a year. How about this deal lasts four years then we drop it down to 4% being payed to House?

Representative Steve

Don't worry about Goodsprings House we'll keep on ranching and tending to our own far into the future. As far as your army is concerned I like the idea but I think we should understand what your saying about sovereignty in relation to this force now. This force would be able to march into any part of the Mojave you want huh? It would controlled by House of course right? Well Goodsprings has a good enough shooter who could make a pretty good part of this "army" but I have real concerns about the future of Mojave. Tell me, what does sovereignty of the states mean to House? Is this a Confederation we've signed off too? Or a undemocratic federation lead by House truly?

Ambassador Draiman-Mr. House

A profit such as this would be a ton, if you really think about it. I bet we could scavenge the necessary weapons from the Legion that was defeated, the rest could possibly come from a Gun Runners deal. And the drop the 4% is fine by me. The tax isn't even entirely necessary, although it would help his regime.


House is the center of the states, as he controls Hoover Dam and is the reason why the Strip survived, and Freeside stays mostly intact. It doesn't mean he has complete sovereignty over them.

We have made it clear that you are your own independent state, and are free to make your own laws and decisions. This army is just the start of House's plans to move onward and to bring justice to more lands and territories.

Do you not trust House? He has no reason, and no interest to march and stomp over every civilization known to man. He just wants to be recognized for all the things he has done in the past, and to move on from it and make the world the way it was. Carefree, powerful, wealthy.

We have already scavenged Cottonwood Cove, but you agree to these terms to give House a well armed militia? And the police force?

We will make sure to keep our part of the Mojave as safe as the Strip if you agree, nobody will be harmed here.

Representative Steve

Goodsprings has no quarrel or mistrust in House Draiman, but it makes no sense to rush head long into nation building without discussing the nature of the beast we are creating. You're talking about building an army and such but the details of the union we're building have been unsaid. Now I don't have no education but I did learn something about that pre world governments of old. From what I gather we're building a confederation lead by an executive and kept safe by a unified army. As far as executive decisions go concerning foreign policy and regional security I see no real reason why House shouldn't have full executive authority with legislative and independent oversight.

As far as legislative decisions go, all decisions made by each independent state would have to be announced in Congress, but it's up to each state/terrority to handle their domestic affairs how they see fit. When it comes to legislative action on a Mojave wide level not concerning national security it should take a 2/3rd vote by the states to sign anything into law. Now each group here today doesn't get a vote, like the Followers for example, but factions that control states like the Kings would get a vote. Never the less the opinions of the Followers would still need to be listened to since they are becoming a Mojave bureaucratic agency of sorts.

All judicial matters would be kept within the states as well, but I have something to talk about concerning legislation. We need to ban importation of meats from outside of the Mojave. Us being dependent on them for food only further weakens our fledgling nation. Now Goodsprings, Jacobstown and the hills east of Nipton, all have plenty of Bighorn meat that can feed our communities and Vegas. Further a ban on foreign meat in the Mojave would make it easier for our ranching industry to expand. Those Brahmin Barons back west are going to try to control our nation like they do the NCR. Let's stop that mess before it starts.

Andrew Matthews: Tops Casino Owner and Leader of the Chairmen

I appreciate your confidence Mr. Draco. It is the first step in any agreeable business endeavor.

Ambassador Marcus - Mayor of Jacobstown

While I appreciate what Mr. House has done in terms of funding our future settlement at Red Rock and creating this Congress, I'm not so sure about this "army." I think it would be in Jacobstown's best interest if we stay out of this army and instead focus our super mutant guards on defending the stretch of highway near Red Rock Canyon.


I support this idea.

Jacobstown has a rapidly growing Bighorner herd, and we are more than happy to trade meat and hides with the rest of the Mojave. I believe it would lessen the Mojave's dependence on NCR businesses and significantly increase the amount of wealth in Jacobstown and the community that will be set up at Red Rock.

Representative Steve

Ambassador Marcus, if your community would rather set up shop in Goodsprings closer to the I-15 and with easier availability to medical supplies that would be welcome. Goodsprings and Jacobstown both have a common industry, ranching, and the creation of a joint health program would help both of our groups.

It seems so. I look forward to the opening of this casino, do you have an idea for a name? Not like it matters much.


Well they're making a settlement in Red Rock because of all of the medical supplies located there, left behind by the Great Khans.

Goodsprings will benefit from it whether it stays there or is moved closer to them, the amount of traffic going through to visit the Followers for food, help, or medicine will bring a ton of people your way.

Perhaps opening up some more stores would be appropriate. But that is merely a business suggestion to earn more profit, having your general store is fine. I actually quite like that store, good service and a good selection of items.

I also would like to cover two more matters, citizenship and currency.

What should the definition of a citizen be and how should one become a citizen? Are NCR citizens allowed to have duel citizenship?

I am asking because many NCR citizens are moving to Nipton and Searchlight which made the question come up in my mind.

The issue of currency is very simple, caps in the wasteland in general are abundant and easily faked. There are many people who may come across a giant stash of bottle caps and use them to buy many things, putting more caps in circulation and lowering their worth. There is also the problem that people can easily get pre-war factories that made bottle caps up and running, making more and more bottlecaps and lowering the worth of them aswell.

I propose that House gradual trades out caps for a currency designed and made in the Mojave itself. There are a handful of factories in the Mojave that we can make operational and then make this new currency.

I suggest the currency is a light plastic poker chip with the symbol of the Mojave, whatever that will be, engraved into it. It would be lighter and very difficult to counterfeit. We could back up the currency from the gold we're getting from Searchlight's mines, along with food, building materials, and the electricity and water from Hoover Dam.

Ambassador Draiman-Mr. House

Without an army, there is no fuel to expand ourselves on. While the Mojave is a great strategic point now, the resources won't last forever, and eventually, we will have to expand. Whether it's a bad string of harvests, or a disease that kills the livestock, the Mojave won't give us the proper resources forever. Especially an isolated one such as the Mojave. Without an army, we can't simply take territory in the east by talking at it.

I agree, we should ban foreign meats. That would be one of our weaknesses to the NCR, so we should keep our food on our own land.

House should have executive authority, as his money is what keeps the Mojave and outside areas fueled with travelers, gamblers, and citizens. Not to mention his leadership ability surpasses just about any individual.

I also agree with the rest of your ideas for voting. Although the Followers might have their own state of sorts once they take red rock.

Representative Steve

Cool Draiman Cool, and some citizens of Goodsprings will be helping this army. But just so we're all clear this army would be for foreign interventions mainly right?

Ambassador Draiman-Mr. House

Yes.

I agree with this.

If we take over most of Nevada and Utah than we will have more than enough resources to survive on.

However I disagree with banning foreign meat, that will really hurt the trading business, I say we just encourage eating meat from the Mojave.

OOC: Did you see my post before?

Ambassador Marcus - Mayor of Jacobstown

We will still be setting up in Red Rock, but thank you for the offer. Perhaps Goodsprings and Jacobstown patrols could work together to protect the stretch of land between Goodsprings and Red Rock? To allow caravans safer passage and increase trade for both of our settlements.


I still don't like the idea of Jacobstown mutants joining this "army," I think most of our mutants would rather stay close to Jacobstown and stay away from these larger conflicts. We could however provide food and, if our settlement in Red Rock goes as planned, medicine for your army.

Ambassador Draiman-Mr. House

How would we mass produce a chip as such? Not to mention, NCR citizens coming to and fro would not have this currency. And they are the people who keep Vegas in business.

Maybe not banning, but encouraging might be the best way to go.

But we cannot mew the Brahmin Barons. That is one of the easiest ways for the NCR to get to us, and trust me. No one wants the NCR to get to us. They would drain this Mojave like locusts, and then move on to take the East.

We have multiple factories with machinery that can be engineered to make these chips, I'm not a mechanic but I am sure its possible. I also did say it would be a slow transition.

NCR citizens going to the Mojave don't have caps, they have NCR dollars. We simply accept NCR dollars aswell, or set up booths in each settlement to trade NCR currency for Mojave currency and vice versa.

No we cannot, the NCR is a good ally but relying on any foreign country for food and business is a bad idea whether they're the nicest people in the world or not.

OOC: Good night everybody.

Ambassador Draiman-Mr. House

Fair enough. You can begin to mass-produce chips when you think you are ready.

I'm not forcing anyone to join this "army", although any aid possible is quite valuable.

Ambassador Lobotomite - Black Mountain

Then we are agreed Representative Steve. Once the citizens of the Two Headed Bear have vacated the town of Sloan you will send civilians of Goodsprings and I will send a few of the most stable and well behaved Nightkin. We could each set up merchants and possibly one day create a hub of commerce on the border of our territories.
I have to agree with Marcus. We will fight to protect the Mojave, but it is not possible at this time for a significant force of Nightkin to integrate into a larger human army.

Now on another matter.
*Looks at Marcus*
I have always been distrustful of the Enclave scientist and his "cure", but I have been hearing more and more about its worth recently. Tell me Marcus, because I will trust no other source on this matter, does the scientists cure work? Are the Nightkin of Jacobstown improving?

Ambassador Marcus - Mayor of Jacobstown

I understand your distrust of former Enclave personnel, but I can assure you that the cure has almost completely eliminated schizophrenia in the Nightkin of Jacobstown. You have my word that it will help the Nightkin of Black Mountain.

It is also worth noting that Dr. Henry never really supported the Enclave's ideals, and that he technically deserted the Enclave a long time ago.

Ambassador Lobotomite - Black Mountain

Very well. When I return to Black Mountain I will give my blessing to Neil to begin using the cure upon the most unstable Nightkin first. If this cure does work in the long term then perhaps I will gain a measure of respect for this Dr. Henry.

Ooc: you’re lucky I was asleep or NCR would have been pissed off!

Captain Robert Wilson- Pissed off

Wilson sits there and listens to people bad mouth the NCR eventually he has enough, he slams his hand down on table “Could everyone stop bad mouthing the ncr? We are not “locust”
I have a bad feeling that if you keep on treating the NCR like this a war will break out, I don’t want this to happen but many Kimball supporters would If they heard this meeting…


Oh look that’s exactly what the NCR did… you talk bad about us when your becoming us. I also being you shouldn’t Ban NCR Meat, and Mr Draiman just gave the reason. “bad string of harvests, or a disease that kills the livestock”
If you ban our meat and something bad happens to yours, you’re [censored] and I expect some people will starve in poorer areas….

Oh and I though i should mention there is going to be several laws to limit Brahmin barons influence in NCR Government, this does not apply to the Mojave “states”.


Though you would like to know that President Becker has opened talks with NCR followers recently, there are talks of them becoming the official medical branch of the NCR Government. We shall be doing similar talks with the brotherhood next month.
Oh and that’s Not how the war started, the war was over Fuel and according to our records the Chinese started it…

Ambassador Draiman-Mr. House

Your speech is all the more reason to start an army. We don't want to be helpless if your "great army" comes marching through the mojave with thousands of soldiers. And maybe you lost your ears, but we aren't banning foreign meats, we are just encouraging mojave meats.

Calm down. Neither of us want a war. We gave you a MILITARY location in the mojave. Calm the [censored] down.

*Chuckles* You definitely are Locusts.

OOC: Just FYI if NCR starts a war, we can't have them in the next convention.