I think it would be interesting if your race dictated the range at which you could detect caves/ruins/villages/etc. For example as a Khajiit superior hearing and to a lesser extent smell would probably give a village or bandit cave away.

Heck, I guess they could revert back to Arena graphics, physics and engine. They could really focus on "funner quests" then. [/sarcasm]

Asking for a toggle feature is a joke. Oblivion's quests relied on the map marker in most cases, there wasn't an alternative at all. IT was always there.
How hard is it to add dialog? In fact, that added dialog and the retraction of the compass makes the game richer and more fun. It would make the game better.

Heck, I guess they could revert back to Arena graphics, physics and engine. They could really focus on "funner quests" then.


In all seriousness, having the compass work for some things like pointing to locations you've already found is fine, but knowing the location of ancient secret artifacts that no one has seen in two eras and is buried in ruins immediately upon being asked to find it... is a bit of a stretch.

Um, you have never done script writing, mapping out quests, or ADR work if you think this is not hard. It is immensely complicated. Not necessarily better for the game to have this though.

Also I doubt it would work with the radiant storytelling as some quests would not be in the same place every time.

I don't like the idea of the compass in general, but I also remember having to search the whole Imperial City for a NPC with no further explanation or no way to ask citizens for directions or help. That's not exactly my idea of fun either. Of course, Radiant AI made things a bit more complex in that sense, compared to Morrowind.

Before the devs can even consider making the compass optional, they have to add something in its stead.

i have nothing wrong with the compass itself but get rid of the magic marker in oblivion i rushed the main quest i would have enjoyed exploring finding things trying to find things like morrowind

I like to have a compass, but I don't like the markers at all.

1) Ok, then.
2) That was my meaning. You lose it all with the toggle, so it isn't really a good reason to stop compl... criticising the questcompass.

Unless I completely misunderstood your original meaning.

If they make it optional, then it'll be like Oblivion directions, non-existent. If they torch it, then we'll be one step closer in the right direction for TES.

On screen compass? Good. Having it show all that information? No thank you. I'd much rather run across things naturally. Seeing an odd shaped rock to then discover it to be the tip of huge ruin? That's fun. Rather than knowing it's ruin from the magical compass.

Torch it. Remove it in entirety. Eliminate it from the face of video games.


Then put it back in at the end. The compass itself wasn't that bad, but the quests were designed with it in mind. If the game is designed for not having a compass, then you're given one, that's just dandy.

The magic compass needs to go but obviously that just means it won't track quest markers. Quest markers should stay in the game but instead of marking the item or NPC I need to grab/talk to inside the dungeon, just mark where the dungeon is and let me do the quest myself. Everyone will be happy with that. But quest markers are pretty much integral at this point, the world is just too large to have it like it used to be, plus it annoyed me sometimes in Morrowind when I would waste like an extra 30 min looking for a location that was hidden in an alcove when the quest giver could have marked it on my map instead of giving me vague directions, because they obviously knew exactly the place was.

Keep the compass but change its features. Places should not appear untill you can see them(this would mean some time you see some thing miles off other time you just happen apon them, would still have to be limited other wise climb a mountain on a sunnyday bam full map) and the location type not known till you enter them also the found location marketsdidnt always wrk well in OB plz put them in front of the door, enemys should stay just more tweaking in fallout you could find enemys several rooms away, it's a good idea to use some kind of perception radar but really it should be very short ranged and work more on a last known location basis. after all that it should still toggle on off in the menu. Hopefully as we know you can have no HUD in fp you can toggle on off the feature you like not just all on all off. I like games where you choose the placement and context off your HUD but I understand That is 'no' priority.

Isn't "no HUD" the default setting? If it is, I can't see how there can be a compass.

I'll use it. Voted for optional since I have nothing to lose if it is, although for everyone else's sake, I hope they'd make dialogue directions better.

damn I put the tape on the lower part of my eye

it hurts when you pull it off.

yes that was pure six, whipping out stuff just adds 10000000% more immersion.

nice

that's a good idea actually and everyone is happy.

triple post FTW