The Maormer

Post » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:09 am

If Bethesda were to ever include an additional race then one of the only possible candidates is the The Maormer (Sea Elves).

"The Maormer are known as Sea Elves or Tropical Elves. They reside on the island of Pyandonea, south of the continent of Tamriel. They have pale, almost chameleon-like skin and yellow eyes. It was originally believed that they had lived in the Altmer home of Summerset Isle and were exiled, but tapestries found in the Crystal Tower of Alinor reveal an enmity going back so far as to make that theory impossible.[1] Their leader is an immortal wizard named Orgnum. The Maormer practice a snake-like magic which they use to tame sea-serpents."

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Maormer

I'm guessing they are possibly a Maori / Polynesian influenced TES race as the name Maormer is similar to Maori and Pyandonea is similar to Polynesia. Their habitat also echoes that of Polynesia / Oceania.
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Post » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:21 am

Right, because the Maori are totally religious exiles from a race of eugenic elves who ride sea serpents into battle against fleets of ships belonging to their former culture whose king is immortal and ages backwards and can control weather.

As for the other part, they could definitely appear, especially in a game taking place in Summerset, but I doubt they'd be playable. Let's see how Falmer are done in Skyrim, I think it will be much the same way as the Sea Elves.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:32 pm

TengenToppa hit the nail on the head, WITH THE HAMMER OF THOR!
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:02 pm

Right, because the Maori are totally religious exiles from a race of eugenic elves who ride sea serpents into battle against fleets of ships belonging to their former culture whose king is immortal and ages backwards and can control weather.

I just have a passing interest in Polynesian culture and ethnography, but funnily enough, this actually sounds very Polynesian. If someone told me that this was a description of a traditional myth from one of the Polynesian cultures, I'd totally believe them. Still, your point stands.

As for the other part, they could definitely appear, especially in a game taking place in Summerset, but I doubt they'd be playable. Let's see how Falmer are done in Skyrim, I think it will be much the same way as the Sea Elves.

Despite their ancient rivalry, there are stories of the Maomer being folded into the 2E Aldmeri Dominion. Perhaps this might happen again (if it ever truly happened at all). In that case, they could certainly be playable. Regardless, they'd have to be constructed in such a way as to be easily modded into being a playable race, since they're still civilized and talk and whatnot.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:32 pm

Right, because the Maori are totally religious exiles from a race of eugenic elves who ride sea serpents into battle against fleets of ships belonging to their former culture whose king is immortal and ages backwards and can control weather.


yer like the Norse people of Scandinavia rode on dragons and hunted wooly mammoths... please.

Its no different to Nord sounding like Nordic / Norse and Skyrim sound like Scandinavia. Its no different to Skyrim being cold like Scandinavia and Nords are blatantly influenced by ancient Scandinavians. This does not mean that every anolly retentive reader has to knit pick every aspect of Scandinavian history and parallel it to TES Nord lore or architecture as a means to disprove it.

Some people are just jokes.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:16 pm

Hey, you asked the question, don't get angry if you don't like the answer.

What TT was trying to explain is that it's not going to happen. The Maomer were exiled, and they continue to assault Summerset Ilse here and there. They're also quite localized and seem to only have a fascination with Summerset Ilse. It's likely they'll be NPCs in a game that deals with Summerset, but being playable and seeing them in other places is not likely to happen.
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Post » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:38 am

yer like the Norse people of Scandinavia ride on dragons and hunt wooly mammoths... please.

Its no different to Nord sound like Nordic / Norse and Skyrim sound like Scandinavia.

Right. Right. Read my other post in the other thread where you persist with this foolery despite all logic and good sense. Then, if you do that, look at this:

You mentioned Tolkien, or at least I thought you did. Do you know why he mixed Norse sagas, Biblical morality and Saxon folklore? Because if he just restated one of them, like you are constantly suggesting TES should do with its racial cultures, then it would be absolutely meaningless. If each race "is" a single, 1:1 real culture, then why bother writing it if you can just go put in stuff from the ancient texts? Your grasp of how fantasy is written is shaky at best and awful the majority of the time. And please, I agree with Hellmouth, both for you and for the rest of the forum: if people are going to start acting all pissy if they learn their opinions are wrong, then maybe they should think twice about asking. Jesus, this is like answering questions of my younger brothers. Never bring up any topic if you aren't prepared to deal with where the topic might go.

And please, you're Passive-Aggressive "some people" is just tired and childish, like a book on modern politics. There is no grand conspiracy of us versus them. It's just that your opinion and the actual information are in conflict.
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Post » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:01 am

Its no different to Nord sounding like Nordic / Norse and Skyrim sound like Scandinavia.

Both annoy a lot of people.
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Post » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:10 am

There is no grand conspiracy of us versus them.

Someone has obviously not heard of the Kult of Kirkbride, a.k.a. the Shadowy Forum Clique.

Rugh!
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Post » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:34 am

Do we know what kind of relationship the Maormer kingdom has with the Sloads from Thras (if any)?
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Post » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:37 am

Someone has obviously not heard of the Kult of Kirkbride, a.k.a. the Shadowy Forum Clique.

Rugh!

Lady, I was there when the term was coined! There is, naturally, no such kult and any evidence to the contrary can be explained by an extraordinary set of coincidences. ;)
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Post » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:42 am

Right. Right. Read my other post in the other thread where you persist with this foolery despite all logic and good sense. Then, if you do that, look at this:

You mentioned Tolkien, or at least I thought you did. Do you know why he mixed Norse sagas, Biblical morality and Saxon folklore? Because if he just restated one of them, like you are constantly suggesting TES should do with its racial cultures, then it would be absolutely meaningless. If each race "is" a single, 1:1 real culture, then why bother writing it if you can just go put in stuff from the ancient texts? Your grasp of how fantasy is written is shaky at best and awful the majority of the time. And please, I agree with Hellmouth, both for you and for the rest of the forum: if people are going to start acting all pissy if they learn their opinions are wrong, then maybe they should think twice about asking. Jesus, this is like answering questions of my younger brothers. Never bring up any topic if you aren't prepared to deal with where the topic might go.

And please, you're Passive-Aggressive "some people" is just tired and childish, like a book on modern politics. There is no grand conspiracy of us versus them. It's just that your opinion and the actual information are in conflict.


so I can happily and safely go back to my original post and say "I'm guessing they are possibly a Maori / Polynesian influenced TES race as the name Maormer is similar to Maori and Pyandonea is similar to Polynesia. Their habitat also echoes that of Polynesia / Oceania" without someone getting all anolly retentive over every aspect of Maori history and culture and just happily move on... Thank you!
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Post » Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:08 am

There's nothing else to say, really :shrug: They're partially transparent elves who hate and repeatedly invade Summurset, live in a water-jungle, and ride sea serpents. Unless we get a game centered specifically about them, I doubt we'll ever see them in game. Unlike the Falmer, they're neither gone nor living in Tamriel, and only invade in major armadas (so individuals as dungeon fodder isn't very likely).

In other words, I don't know what this thread is about, other than saying that they might resemble the Maori, to which all there is to respond is "in name only."
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:58 pm

so I can happily and safely go back to my original post and say "I'm guessing they are possibly a Maori / Polynesian influenced TES race as the name Maormer is similar to Maori and Pyandonea is similar to Polynesia. Their habitat also echoes that of Polynesia / Oceania" without someone getting all anolly retentive over every aspect of Maori history and culture and just happily move on... Thank you!

That seems pretty non-sequetorial. Here we have you taking a coincidental cognate and jumping to the conclusion that it means they are Polynesians, which is not supported by anything outside the cognate. Basically, you're wrong, and you're getting inordinately upset when we tell you that and launching into tirades of how people who are pointing out your mistakes and baseless conclusions are being anol when really we're just being factual. Are you certain you aren't one of my younger brothers, because this is oddly familiar ground. I am not going over every aspect of Maori culture, I am saying that the Maormer have no similarity in any way except for the sound of their names when spoken. You won't call me a cup of coffee because my name is Joe, will you? Because I am most certainly not a delicious hot beverage, any more than the Maori are transparent elves.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:23 pm

There's nothing else to say, really :shrug: They're partially transparent elves who hate and repeatedly invade Summurset, live in a water-jungle, and ride sea serpents. Unless we get a game centered specifically about them, I doubt we'll ever see them in game. Unlike the Falmer, they're neither gone nor living in Tamriel, and only invade in major armadas (so individuals as dungeon fodder isn't very likely).

In other words, I don't know what this thread is about, other than saying that they might resemble the Maori, to which all there is to respond is "in name only."


I think this sounds like an interesting mer race though. It'll be great to see them featured in a TES game some day (may be not Skyrim as their world are miles apart, lol).

Yer I'm guessing (and hoping) that Falmer are still alive. I'm guessing they have grown very hostile and aggressive towards other races though and live hidden deep underground in caves. I hoping they are the ice warriors / ice tribes who have been seen featured in TES travel games.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:59 pm

...Because I am most certainly not a delicious hot beverage...
Or are you?

And Kraigus Maximus, it seems to be that way, except they look more...ogre/demonic-ish, with a thing for spiders. At least, I think that's what one of the art screens has shown.
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