The map of Tamriel : V

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:46 pm

I found this map. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/tamriel.jpg/

I belive its at the start of Skyrim's timeline.

But the question is, Is it that accurate?

I do have read alot of lore about Tamriel. But did Vhardenfell totally disappeard? I have read dussin of lore sites and they all get 50/50 about this.
So, is seems that the empire in my own eyes don't seem that large anymore.

Let the discussion begin.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:35 pm

it seems accurate...

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:08 pm

Shouldn't Elswheyr be aligned with the Altmer?

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:39 am

i think it is lore-wise

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:25 pm

Shouldn't Elswheyr be aligned with the Altmer?

I believe so. But didn't they set up two puppet states with those names?

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:00 pm

The Dominion is tiny compared to the empire + isn't there more man then mer in tamreil? I'm suprised Argonia isn't fighting the empire as well..

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:50 am

The Dominion is tiny compared to the empire + isn't there more man then mer in tamreil? I'm suprised Argonia isn't fighting the empire as well..

It doesn't say in more in the lore. Just that the Argonians occupied the rest of Morrowind. Correct me if I'm wrong.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:54 pm

You can still see Vvardenfell on vanilla Skyrim's 3D map. It didn't disintegrate into water.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:43 pm

You can still see Vvardenfell on vanilla Skyrim's 3D map. It didn't disintegrate into water.

Yepp, seen that to. But its still strange that it appers to be gone in manny other sites. "..Totally destroys the island of Vardenfell.."

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:07 pm

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/Nulix160/4E201Tamriel.jpg

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:37 pm

You just made me want to kill more Elves with the link you provided sir. Good day

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:03 am

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Great_War#The_Second_Arnesian_War and http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Fourth_Era

The Empire is now a shadow of its former glory. Valenwood and Elsweyr had been ceded to the Thalmor, Black Marsh had been lost to Imperial rule since the Oblivion Crisis, Morrowind had yet to fully recover from the eruption of Mount Vvardenfell, and Hammerfell was plagued by infighting between the Crown and Forbear factions. Only High Rock, Cyrodiil, and Skyrim remained prosperous and peaceful.

The southern half of Morrowind is ultimately conquered by the Argonians. Since Argonia had already left the Empire, south Morrowind was then forced to secede.

After five years, the war ends in a stalemate with the signing of the Second Treaty of Stros M'kai. The Aldmeri Dominion withdraws from Hammerfell entirely.

4E 40s — Red Mountain erupts; Vvardenfell is destroyed.

In Vivec's absence, the Ministry of Truth becomes unstable. Vuhon creates an Ingenium that uses at first dozens of dying souls, then a small number of living ones to stabilize the rock. The soul of Sul's wife Ilzheven was among them. In a fight to free her, the Ingenium is destroyed and the rock crashes into the city of Vivec with all the energy it originally had. The impact causes Red Mountain to erupt and destroys the entire island of Vvardenfell, as well as causing massive destruction to the rest of the province.

So yes, the map looks accurate.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:02 pm

As far as I know, mainland Morrowind's not been overrun by Black Marsh. Sure, they invaded and the border moved north, but I'm pretty sure a lot of it is still Dunmer (if in shambles).

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:13 pm

I thought Elsweyr was with the Aldmeri Dominion? And Morrowind isn't completely taken..

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:28 pm

I thought Elswyr was with the Aldmeri Dominion? And Morrowind isn't completely taken..

It's now two Kingdoms who are independent though both basically Thalmor puppets, client-states.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:39 pm

morrowind is still not all argonian, border just moved north.
high rock is still indpendent, just as skyrim and cyrodiil, theyre just whats left of the empire.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:28 am

Vvardenfell got destroyed as in a volcano erupts and its ash and lava destroys all the plant and wildlife. The island is still there.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:43 am

Also some cities in Cyrodiil don't exist anymore..

Such as Bravil.. It's gone.. Burned down.. Not like I cared for that city..

I think Leyawiin was raided..

Anvil and Skingrad should be destroyed.. I presume a fort was where Kvatch lay so I am assuming that was destroyed as well..

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:12 pm

Vvardenfell got destroyed as in a volcano erupts and its ash and lava destroys all the plant and wildlife. The island is still there.

That's I what I thought they meant by destroyed but I suppose some could argue that it was taken by the sea as well. I don't know,

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:59 am

As far as I know southern part of Hammerfell (not sure which exactly) should also be under Altmeri Dominion.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:39 pm

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z201/Nulix160/4E201Tamriel.jpg

this one is correct from what i know, but it does not take the stormcloaks into account (who, at the start of the stormcloak-empire war, had at least half of skyrim under their rule)

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:41 pm

As far as I know southern part of Hammerfell (not sure which exactly) should also be under Altmeri Dominion.

actually Hammerfell continued the fight against the Thalmor and kicked out the remaining forces, guess Hammerfell keep some spare reserves.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:19 am

Really most of the map is known based of things mentioned in Skyrim. The big question is Morrowind. It is implied that the Argonians do not own the whole of the province but I also remember an Imperial Guard in Riften mentioning the city being used as a supply line for a push into Morrowind.

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:54 pm

Really most of the map is known based of things mentioned in Skyrim. The big question is Morrowind. It is implied that the Argonians do not own the whole of the province but I also remember an Imperial Guard in Riften mentioning the city being used as a supply line for a push into Morrowind.

woah woah woah, those imperials think they can wage a war with argonians? they can hardly defend themselves from the dominion, they do not have a chance at invading argonia :chaos:

» Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:50 pm

Really most of the map is known based of things mentioned in Skyrim. The big question is Morrowind. It is implied that the Argonians do not own the whole of the province but I also remember an Imperial Guard in Riften mentioning the city being used as a supply line for a push into Morrowind.

All hope is not lost in Morrowind. If you read Lord of Souls there is a chance that the province will bounce back.

What im wondering about is whats going on in argonia during and after the great war?