The Marukhati Collected (Whirling Scrolls Online) Pt IV : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Tue May 08, 2012 2:55 pm

So, are you lore people gonna start quoting sermons and comparing spears now? It would make a change from all the hate threads.

We will dance on this tower and make it squirm.

» Tue May 08, 2012 8:04 pm

My spear is much bigger than yours, newcomer
My spear can walk right through the door
With a feeling so pure..
It's got you screaming back for more.

Just kidding. I have no spear.

Now that we're here, I have a feeling that this forum will become a friendlier place.

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:14 pm

We will dance on this tower and make it squirm.

"Reach heaven by Violence!"

Hmmm...this forum seems warmer than before...

» Tue May 08, 2012 8:21 pm

Quick confuse them!

My name is Jubal-lun-Sul, of House Sul, whose name is known and heard throughout the Scathing Bay and the Nine times Nine Thrones. Our lord is High Alma Jaroon, of House Jaroon, whose city is the First City of the New North, where all who Went Under from Landfall settled and made peace with the Worm, when we were not Eighty and One separate peoples but One, carrying the tibrols on our back together and cutting tunnels by the light and heat that all mer wore, with equal dust in every mouth. My family’s name comes from the first child born in the Velothiid, Haeko-dol-Sul, and, like him, we are salt merchants. Our crest is the tusk of the bat-tiger. Our bloodline is registered by C0DA.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:36_Lessons_of_Vivec,_Sermon_9

Then came the war with the northern men, where http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Vivec_%28god%29 did guide the Hortator into swift and tricky union with the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dwemer. The greatest demon chieftains of the frigid west were those listed below, five in unholy number.
HOAGA, the Mouth of Mud, who appeared as a great bearded king, had the powers of Marshalling and breathing the earth. On the battlefields, this demon would often be seen on the sidelines, eating the soil voraciously. When his men fell, Hoaga would fill their bodies back with it, whereupon they would rise again and fight, albeit slower. He had a Secret Name, Fenja, and destroyed seventeen http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Chimer villages and two http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Dwemer strongholds before being turned away.
CHEMUA, the Running Hunger, who appeared as a mounted soldier with full helm, had the powers of Heart Roaring and of sky sickening. He ate the Chimeri hero, Dres Khizumet-e, sending the spirit back to the Hortator as an assassin. Sometimes called First Blighter, Chemua could give clouds stomach aches and turn the rain of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Veloth into bile. He destroyed six Chimeri villages before he was slain by Vivec and the Hortator.
BHAG, the Two-Tongued, who appeared as a great bearded king, had the powers of Surety and Form Change. His raiders were small in number, but ran amok in the west hinterlands, killing many Velothi trappers and scouts. He fell in a great debate with Vivec, for the warrior-poet alone could understand the northern man's two-layered speech, though http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Almsivi had to remain invisible during the argument.
BARFOK, Maid of Planes, who appeared as a winged human with lick-encrusted spear, had the powers of Event Denouement. Battles fought against her would always end in victory for Barfok, because she could shape outcomes by singing. Four Chimeri villages and two more Dwemeri strongholds were destroyed by her decision enforcement. Vivec had to stuff her mouth with his milk finger to keep her from singing Veloth into ruin.
YSMIR, the Dragon of the North, who always appears as a great bearded king, had powers innumerable and echoing. He was grim and dark and the most silent of the invading chieftains, though when he spoke villages were uplifted and thrown into the sea. The Hortator fought him unarmed, grabbing the Dragon's roars by hand until http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Wulfharth's power throat bled. These roars were given to Vivec to bind into an ebony listening frame, which the warrior-poet placed on Ysmir's face and ears to drive him mad and drive him away. 'The coming forth and the driving away brings all things around. What I shall say next is unpleasant to record: HERMA-MORA-ALTADOON! AE ALTADOON!'
The ending of the words is http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Almsivi.

'I am the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sotha_Sil of the Three in One. In you is an egg of my brother-sister, who possesses invisible knowledge of words and swords, which you shall nurture until the Hortator comes.'

My favorite lines in lore

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:00 am

Quickly! Fire upon them in majestic ways!

» Tue May 08, 2012 2:10 pm

Oh dear now that this has been moved to the online forum the cat is out of the bag.
Oh well.

Nothing can halt the glorious victory we will exact upon the land.
Tam! RUGH!

Vivec wept as he slew all those around him with his terrible new spear. He named it MUATRA, which is Milk Taker, and even the Chimeri mystics knew his fury. Anyone struck by Vivec at this time turned barren and withered into bone shapes. The path of bones became a sentence for the stars to read, and the heavens have never known children since. Vivec hunted down the biters one by one, and all their progeny, and he killed them all by means of the Nine Apertures, and the wise still hide theirs from Muatra.

The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.

» Wed May 09, 2012 2:10 am

Then Humaidah took to mocking en-Nuaniin, and laughing at him, with her nurse, the Sideways Sigh. And by-and-by she said:

O my nurse! Open me the curtains of the litter, that I may smell the perfume of the breeze.

So the nurse opened them, and Humaidah and en-Nuaniin found themselves face to face. And she mocked him, but he recited, saying:

Spite of thy jeering now, O Humaidah! for how long a time have I forsaken thee, like a thrown-off garment?

But she answered, saying:

It troubled me not when bereft of high estate. Though I had lost of wealth and rank; wealth may be acquired and honour recalled, if the One preserve the soul from death.

And she continued deriding and laughing, until they drew nigh unto the elves' country. And when they came near a town, she dropped some denarii out of her hand on to the ground, and then
cried:

Ho, gondalier! we have let some drakes fall; pick them up for us.

So en-Nuaniin looked on the ground, but seeing only denarii, said:

They are denarii.

And she replied:

Not so, they are drakes.

He repeated:

They are denarii!

Whereupon she exclaimed:

The One be praised! Denarii fell from our hand, and the One has replaced them by drakes!

Then was en-Nuaniin covered with confusion, and was silent, and made no answer; but went with her into the presence of 'un-AllUh-fyr-Tdhir, who married her. And according to her will, so was everything.

» Tue May 08, 2012 8:13 pm

I am confused D:

» Tue May 08, 2012 10:58 am

I am confused D:

Good, we are doing the right thing then

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:09 pm

Good, we are doing the right thing then :biggrin:

Please tell me :3 i dont understand,i am too stupid

» Tue May 08, 2012 6:33 pm

Good, we are doing the right thing then :biggrin:

Like a saltrice fly burns in the ancestral torch, the enemy is blinded by our varliance!
Praise the ancestors, mind the corners, our glory is nigh!

'The C0DA broke when Twice Vehk appeared again from Aether, but they captured enough of Him to render the words stable again. In this passage, He describes the goal of the Lunar God, who some of you still ascribe the name “Lorkhan”. When stabilized, the words become proof:
All creation is subgradient. First was Void, which became split by AE. Anu and Padomay came next and with their first brush came the Aurbis.
Void to Aurbis: naught to pattern.
“Later, and by that I mean much, much later, my reign will be seen as an act of the highest love, which is a return from the astral destiny and the marriages between. By that I mean the catastrophes, which will come from all five corners. Subsequent are the revisions, differentiated between hope and the distraught, situations that are only required by the periodic death of the immutable. Cosmic time is repeated: I wrote of this in an earlier life. An imitation of submersion is love's premonition, its folly into the underworld, by which I mean the day you will read about outside of yourself in an age of gold. For on that day, which is a shadow of the sacrificial concept, all history is obliged to see me for what you are: in love with evil."'

For Morrowind!
For Vivec!
We will sweep across the land and secure the ruby throne for the Elk!
Tam RUGH!

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:39 pm

And then We slipped into the after-minds of the Gray Maybe.

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:08 am

Please tell me :3 i dont understand,i am too stupid

I don't play Mass Effect but noticed that the most recent Mass Effect novel (not the previous ones) got http://www.gameranx.com/updates/id/4884/article/mass-effect-novel-full-of-mistakes-facepalms-all-around/ because it was by a writer who was not familiar with the series rather than the other writer who worked on the first two games.

Replace Mass Effect with Bethesda, and replace the writer with Zenimax Online Studios.

Enough said.

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:22 pm

We are the (Col/Se)lective. We come to redeem Tamriel through chaos. We restore forgotten memories and tear down the lies of false masters.

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:01 pm

So " a piston which had been thrusting left-right, left- right for millennia suddenly began shifting right-left. Nothing broke, but everything changed" (recently saw that this thread was moved)

The ending of the words is ALMSIVI

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:34 pm

snip

Was this the whole story, or just an extract? If there's more, I'd love to read it all.

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:10 pm

I'm not as into the lore as some people obviously are.. But looking at this quote from Gameinformer:

What’s going on here?
In this image, you can see a couple player characters battling some Storm Atronachs. Storm Atronach are a species of daedra (divine creatures that come from magical dimensions) that are constructed from stone and held together by magic. The most powerful of all the atronachs, Storm Atronach are immune to normal weapons and shock attacks, are resistant to poisons, and can reflect spells back at their caster.
Is that all?
Behind the battle is a series of daedric ruins. These great towers were built long ago by an ancient race of people, but they’re not the only landmarks players will discover throughout their journey. As players travel through Skyrim, Morrowind, Cyrodiil, and the rest of Tamriel they will encounter various dwarven ruins, ancient nordic tombs, decayed dwemer buildings, and many other ancient locales, some of which players may have discovered in previous Elder Scrolls games.

It already looks to me like they have butchered even the most basic concepts beyond all recognition. Atronachs as divine beings? Daedric ruins in Tamriel? Dwarven and Dwemer as (it appears) separate things? I am not excited.

» Tue May 08, 2012 1:34 pm

The only thing actually incorrect about that is the bit about dwemer and dwarven. Divine is what you make it, and Daedric ruins dot Morrowind.

So the Selective speaks.

» Tue May 08, 2012 4:17 pm

I'm not as into the lore as some people obviously are.. But looking at this quote from Gameinformer:
(text)

It already looks to me like they have butchered even the most basic concepts beyond all recognition. Atronachs as divine beings? Daedric ruins in Tamriel? Dwarven and Dwemer as (it appears) separate things? I am not excited.

Hark, attune your memospore receptors to NULL#13140, the Selective speaks.

Note that the writer of that article may not have been up to date with TES and though Dwemer and dwarven were seperate things.
Similar to the daedra, Ive read reviewers call them demons a lot when reviewing Oblivion, and they arent that either.
Daedric ruins are a common occurence in the province of Morrowind, as the Chimer worshiped (some of) them.

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:15 am

The only thing actually incorrect about that is the bit about dwemer and dwarven. Divine is what you make it, and Daedric ruins dot Morrowind.

So the Selective speaks.

Never played Morrowind so I'll take that on the chin, but divine generally means of or relating to a god, correct? I could sit and argue the semantics but atronachs have never had anything major to do with gods in TES before..

Query: Are ZOS simply publishers or did they have a hand in development?

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:35 pm

Query: Are ZOS simply publishers or did they have a hand in development?

They are the developers.

» Tue May 08, 2012 10:03 am

[While stumbling out of outhouse drunk scholar gazes his whereabouts]

Dear Aka! Where am i? This ain't backyard of Lore Forum!?!?!?

[After short moment he realizes that something big has happened] Oh yeah, it's invasion to TESO forums... [Palms slippery from sweat he tries to sort his scrolls of most interesting things there are known to man]

yeah...

... [think]

Muatra, Vehk-Vehk, Spear, Dwarf, biting

...[think]

CHIM, Mantling, Prolix Tower, Amaranth the New Man.

....

White Gold, Crystal Law, Adamantine

...[think]

...[think]

[think-think-think-think-think-think-think-think-think-think-think-think-think]

LACK OF LOVE SHALL BE OUR DOOM! READ THE SERMONS, IT'S THERE! DON'T BE LIKE TONAL DWEMER, EMBRACE LOVE THAT IS CONFLICTED! So says magical Hermaphrodite Vehk-vehk, brother-sister of Almalexia and Sotha Sil. Love TESO, LOVE ELK, LOVE YOURSELF!

Tam! Rugh! ELK! TESO!

» Tue May 08, 2012 5:21 pm

They are the developers.

i had heard, but wasn't sure. This is what concerns me the most. Seeing (admittedly small) mistakes here leaves me wondering if they haven't made mistakes with more significant areas of the lore.

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:50 am

Never played Morrowind so I'll take that on the chin, but divine generally means of or relating to a god, correct? I could sit and argue the semantics but atronachs have never had anything major to do with gods in TES before..

It was probably the writer - after all, the Daedra are sort-of gods, so for the sake of people not accustomed to TES lore, Daedra are gods and their servants are divine. An easy mistake to make on the part of the writer, I highly doubt that either that or Dwemer/Dwarven separates are now true - at worst Dwarves would just be Dwarves if incompetency on the part of devs was at play, separating Dwemer would require first acknowledging them, and if you did that you would be unlikely to make that mistake.

» Tue May 08, 2012 7:52 pm

Never played Morrowind so I'll take that on the chin, but divine generally means of or relating to a god, correct? I could sit and argue the semantics but atronachs have never had anything major to do with gods in TES before..

Query: Are ZOS simply publishers or did they have a hand in development?

The use of the word 'divine' was a poor choice by a journalist, not ZOS. As it stands, Dunmer worshipped Daedra- not Atronachs, but still.

ZOS are the developers.