Ranger Matthew-NCR

I hope you're joking. What's left of the Enclave isn't even a fraction of what's left of the Brotherhood.

McCarran is OUTSIDE of the Vegas wall, isn't it? Although I was never great with Geography as a child. If you deny us access to something that was once ours, something that we fortified and held for years, ehhh.... I hope you're justified by this decision because I assure you it will make no one in the NCR happy.

If it helps things, how about I break up this tension and just send a few rangers to Camp Golf? Then there's no more soreness over this "Enclave has more priority" talk.

Kevin Harty- Mayor of Novac

That makes no sense.

The Brotherhood is not a threat. Nobody trusts the Enclave, except House apparently, and the Van Graffs are a threat.

I have to say I have just lost a ton of respect and faith in House.

Ambassador Turner - The Kings

* Turner sighed and furrowed his brow, listening to all the complaints against House's recent veto against his deal. He took finished off the last of his whiskey and set the bottle down.

"If the Brotherhood aren't allowed in Freeside, then the Van Graffs are basically being let free. The Enclave's got a higher chance of not just wiping out Gloria and Jean-Baptiste, but the Kings, Followers, and locals.. "for the good of America." I would ask that you reconsider this, if only for the time being, but I see that everyone else here is doing that already. I don't care if you send a platoon of Securitrons into Freeside to keep watch, we need the Brotherhood right now..
BUT, if the Brotherhood aren't in this, I would ask if any other factions seated here would care to send at least minimal aid in attacking the Van Graffs. Even 5 - 10 soldiers would suffice from any one group, and the energy weapons would of course be shared between whomever chooses to join and help. The Kings, being backed by the Gun Runners, do not need the Van Graffs' arsenal, so its yours to keep, though we will take a portion of the loot to trade off with the Brotherhood as well as the Enclave, as a gesture of good will, if you will. Payne, you had promised to send some Salvaged Power Armor to help us clear Freeside of varmints once and for all, so consider the Van Graffs part of that camp. This is the only other way I can think of to deal with this, seeing as how there isn't a dark corner of this table where a Van Graff would be sitting."

* Turner leans right back into his seat, spinning his switchblade around as he awaits an agreement or disagreement.

"Oh, and can I get one of 'em brahmin steak things? And a Nuka Cola too, no more whiskey for me."

Spokesman Bob Stanley


hmm I think i have a way around this treaty. How about the Brotherhood sqaud doing this raid comes and works for the Gun Runner, fill out all the paperwork making them offically Gun Runner employees, who can travel in house owned lands. the sqaud then gaurds a GR cavaran to Freeside, kills Van Graffs and then gaurd another caravan on the way back to novac. once finished they can resign and return to the BOS.


I'm sorry for lost of Ranger Blaines, we was a good man.

Ranger Matthew-NCR

A squad of NCR troopers could run in circles around the situation you have right now.

I'd help, but.... *Points at ambassador Payne*..... I kinda can't.

Representative Payne, House's Representative

"Mayor Marty, I truly wish I could have the same idealism as you, but I don't believe it's in my programming. And yes, let's move onto the most pressing matter which is the Legion. Ranger Matthews while I'm glad that your gung ho about this operation the Enclave can handle Camp Golf. If the Rangers are truly looking for a battle before the Hoover Dam, look no further than Nelson which is still causing problems for Mayor Marty's town I believe. After those two camps are destroyed, so goes the Legion's offensive campaign. From what I understand we have all already come to an agreement over the plan of operations for the Dam right? The State of Tabitha handles the internal fight of the Dam, the Kings guard the perimeter to ensure no Legionaries escape West, and the NCR, Enclave, BoS, House's securitrons including myself, and Novac attack the upper level of the Dam, spread head into Arizona and destroy the Fort and Legate's Camp. If by chance the State of Tabitha's meta humans fail it won't matter seeing how the top leadership would be dead and both ways out would be covered.

Also Ambassador Turner such a plan can work, if the group conducting the raid were NCR and Novac Milita members and no plasma weapon or electromagnetic weapons turned up in the hands of the BoS. Also of course after the operation and disturbing of the materials those forces would need to vacate Vegas. And yes the Kings will still be getting that scavenged power armor for temporary use in the Freeside riots. The King has never betrayed House and you can count House a friend of Freeside. Ranger Matthews, the NCR still has 2 ranger stations within House's zone, and the NCR have been our largest trading partner, of course you can help in this operation, but a permanent base for troopers or the NCR army is to far."

OOC: I believe we took care of Nelson in the last convention?

And also, according to the last convention, the NCR has control of the fort, and the Legate's camp is empty, I believe.

Kevin Harty- Mayor of Novac

And that is why nobody trusts the Enclave.

Why can't House see the pose no threat? If we can't strike a deal then I would like to go see House personally.


I don't think House would allow that.


Perhaps we could borrow eight suits of Salvaged Power Armor and then take the Van Graffs ourselves. Then we can return the eight suits afterwards.


We pretty much have it covered then.

Ranger Matthew-NCR

You have more of a chance of being struck by post-apocalyptic lightning, (which is basically non-existent), than seeing House face-to-face.

The Securitrons would sooner shoot you.

Nelson is already gone, we took care of it two weeks ago, so we can follow through with our plan, after we deal with the Van Graffs.

I beg you, if you don't want the NCR in freeside, let the Brotherhood do it. They would snap Gloria like a twig.

That's the last loose end we will need to cover before Hoover Dam.

And I don't see the Kings helping us if we cannot help them.

Ambassador Turner - The Kings


"If I might add something here: If the NCR is allowed to do this, then Freeside might have more trust in the boys from back West, which means no more attacks on NCR citizens, which makes my job a whole hell of a lot easier. Although, and this bears repeating, the Brotherhood would still be the ideal choice here. They've still got the numbers and they've still got the gear to do it. So far they've been pretty cooperative, and I'm pretty sure they won't be in the Vegas area for more than a couple of hours at most, seeing as how the Van Graffs only have as many guards as one can fit into a broken down two story building."

Ranger Matthew-NCR

I mean absolutely no offense by this, the fighting skill, and numbers, of the kings, would end up in a number of casualties that are absolutely UNNECESSARY

ooc- Nelson wasn't taken, the Legion attacked from Nelson but Novac didn't follow up with a counter attack. The continued Legion raids along the I-93 are because of Nelson and so is the whole Legion flag planted on the southern part of town."

Representative Payne, House's Representative

"I just cleared the operation Turner, what are you going on about.

Payne then replays the audio recording of himself speaking.




ooc- Must of missed that, alright then cool.

OOC: You must not have read one of my responses when I said, we would attack Nelson when we had them on the run from Cottonwood, as it is the only safe bastion for them that is near cottonwood that isn't hoover dam.

Ranger Matthew-New California Republic Rangers

Man, my ears have been buzzin' ever since the fight at cottonwood. It was a loud one, must not have caught that.

Very well, two squads of NCR troopers are being dispatched to the Silver Rush as we speak.

OOC: Man, it would be hilarious if we were doing these discussions on Skype. Talk about intense haha.

Ambassador Turner - The Kings

"Thanks for doing this Matthews, once the King sees what you've done for the town, there's no doubt in my mind that Freeside would accept the NCR with open arms - and an unholstered pistol, but you can't change everyone's mind."

* Turner bites into his just-arrived Brahmin steak, before piping up again.

"So, we've got the dam figured out, and I'm currently sorting out the newly expanded Freeside area.. What's left?"

Ranger Matthew-New California Republic Rangers

I appreciate the gesture, but House would rather choke on his own tongue than let the NCR in. We've already talked this over.

It seems your Kings could stand to be better equipped, so after Hoover Dam goes down, I could see trading deals coming up in the future.

Ambassador Turner - The Kings

"Sounds good, I look forward to doing business with you again in the future."

OOC: Now, what other issues are there to bring up?

OOC: Besides what to do at Hoover Dam, none come out of the top of my head, unfortunately. Any ideas?

ooc- Seems about time to do a time skip. But hey I'm getting pretty busy and won't be able to keep up with this thread as much as I'd like to, could one of you all be the one to summarize the deals, time skip, update the thread, post the new threads, etc etc?

ooc- Just hold up for a bit, Sebor and I will figure something out.

OOC- I say there should be something negative that happened, like Camp Golf got attacked by so many Legionaires that the Enclave had to retreat from the base.

We need some things to hinder progress.

ooc- whatever we end up doing, we'll keep you posted. Bravo, I think you guys all did a great job.

OOC: Woooo.

ooc: more of Vault 3 could have flooded, thus casuing a halt to GR production.


edit: going to bed now