The Moon, anyone still up there? : Fallout Series Discussion

» Fri May 27, 2011 3:53 am

We know that the first moon landing happened on schedule in 1969, BUT unlike us, the Fallout Universe CONTINUED trips to the Moon REGULARLY instead of abandoning the Lunar program in the 70's.

With the USSA continuing trips to the moon for almost an entire additional century, what all do you think they were sending up there to the Moon?

With quite a lot of infrastructure seemingly being developed in Space, and all of those trips to the Moon, do you think that it's possible that any civilization has continued up there?

Think this could explain the crashed Delta IX rocket?

» Thu May 26, 2011 11:13 pm

I can't remember the exact year, but if you check around the Museum of Technology, it tells you the last lunar mission happened a good few years before the war, so it's likely no one else is up there. The Delta rockets, the museum also tells you, were converted for military use later on, te crew compartment replaced with a nuclear warhead. The crashed one you see in the D.C. area could easily just be one that malfunctioned, crashed in early flight, and failed to detonate.

» Thu May 26, 2011 11:15 pm

You know what this means? Enclave in Outer Space!

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:11 pm

A moon base would be a lot like a vault... (The Moon has no atmosphere to consume falling meteorites, so for safety you're better off building your base under a comfortably thick layer of rock.)

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:59 pm

A moon base would be a lot like a vault... (The Moon has no atmosphere to consume falling meteorites, so for safety you're better off building your base under a comfortably thick layer of rock.)

That's exactly what I mean though. They obviously have the technology to create sealed habitats that can stay secure for hundreds of years undisturbed.

They had been making trips back and forth to the moon for nearly a century before the War broke out, I think they could have easily shipped enough materials to make several Vaults on the Moon by then.

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:57 am

I've always wondered about orbiting stations or a moon base. Surely the station crew would be bones by now but a properly maintained moon base could last forever and it's plausible too. They really need to flesh that out.

» Thu May 26, 2011 10:02 pm

I've always wondered about orbiting stations or a moon base. Surely the station crew would be bones by now but a properly maintained moon base could last forever and it's plausible too. They really need to flesh that out.

Yes, the original astronauts might be dead, but what if they put a full crew of men and women up there? They could be self-sustaining.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:08 am

I do believe we have stumbled upon a mod idea.

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:34 am

wasnt Van Buren supposed to have its ending in a space station? i remember reading that somewhere, i guess Fallout Wiki.

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:28 am

Wait is that Delta Rocket IX the thing in that huge crater, around the old Military enlistment building, and Subway station up north in DC?

» Thu May 26, 2011 9:27 pm

yes it a Delta Rocket IX rocket, but one that was fitted with nukes.

which is rather peculiar since i think only USA had those rockets, why did it strike DC then?

if it been Beijing were walking around in it wouldnt phase me at all, but DC?

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:22 am

There are many missile bases (Fort Bannister, Fort Constantine) in the area. One of these missiles could have easily malfunctioned on launch. In which case, it could have dropped like a stone, right into the DC metro. Well, at least it didn't detonate! (Not that it helped the city much at that point)

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:29 am

Or... Maybe SOMEONE tried to ride one down...

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:42 am

About Fort Constantine and Bannister, I found this room that lead to the missle launch room it was in the house of the fort, that acted like a HQ, anyway where is the key for Fort Constantine?

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:31 am

wasnt Van Buren supposed to have its ending in a space station? i remember reading that somewhere, i guess Fallout Wiki.

Yes.

The game's ultimate plotline was planned so that the events in the beginning of the game would have been part of a scheme by a rogue New California Republic scientist, Dr. Victor Presper, to seize control of a U.S. orbital nuclear weapons platform and use it to initiate a second nuclear holocaust, cleansing the world of all but his chosen few. In the end, the player would not be able to stop all of the missiles from launching, and his or her decisions on where the missiles would strike would ultimately have decided the future of the world.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Ballistic_Orbital_Missile_Base_001

Although I can't seem to find a mention of how Presper or the player actually got INTO the space station...?

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:19 pm

Although I can't seem to find a mention of how Presper or the player actually got INTO the space station...?

You take a rocket from the Bloomfield Airbase (the hardest part being finding the access codes).

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:56 am

I think Van Buren had a better plot line than F3

» Thu May 26, 2011 9:33 pm

Yes, the original astronauts might be dead, but what if they put a full crew of men and women up there? They could be self-sustaining.

That is indeed true, after all, that's why vault's still have people in after two hundred years (Well... some do, that is.)

But anyway, it does not seem impossible that there could be some kind of installation on the moon in the Fallout universe, and, as has been said, if it had a large enough population of both sixes, people could still be living in it, but if there is, we've seen no mention of it so far, maybe in the future we shall have information on that prospect, but I certainly don't expect that we would actually go to any lunar facilities, Bethesda will probably prefer to focus on the wasteland.

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:34 am

Another idea... Why do you think Aliens seem to be so attracted to Earth?

Do we know for sure that the "Crashed Alien Ship" is REALLY a crashed alien ship? Or if it was just a secret government project with a mutated pilot?

We know that there is mention of the crashed ship BEFORE the war, but how do we know what it REALLY is?

Also, the additional crashes seem to be occurring with some regularity (having found the ships crashed in previous games) and now actually being able to see the ships crash in game.

I just think that the Aliens would play some kind of bigger role behind the scenes than we probably know.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:05 am

Another idea... Why do you think Aliens seem to be so attracted to Earth?

Do we know for sure that the "Crashed Alien Ship" is REALLY a crashed alien ship? Or if it was just a secret government project with a mutated pilot?

We know that there is mention of the crashed ship BEFORE the war, but how do we know what it REALLY is?

Also, the additional crashes seem to be occurring with some regularity (having found the ships crashed in previous games) and now actually being able to see the ships crash in game.

I just think that the Aliens would play some kind of bigger role behind the scenes than we probably know.

i thought they were easters eggs just like the crashed star trek shuttle
if not .cool just beam me up away from these deathclaws scotty

» Thu May 26, 2011 9:46 pm

I think Van Buren had a better plot line than F3

Yeah, the plotline, design docs etc. sound a lot more fallout-ish... I mean, F3 is great, but kinda... erm... well, you know... (once we have those automatic food dispensers that can assemble a fried chicken from atoms, you'll know what I'm trying to say

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On-topic - yeah, the moon is a plausable still habitable destination for a future game, maybe the real bada$$ Enclave is actually up there, pulling the strings from up there for a long long time...

» Thu May 26, 2011 8:40 pm

Given the Enclave plan to sit out the war on the Oil Rig and then scoop everyone they wanted from the Vaults and go into space, a moon base seems very plausible. The Vaults were made very public but there are plebty of secret 'vaults', raven rock for example.
A secret moon base is very 50's/60's.

» Fri May 27, 2011 4:38 am

Given the Enclave plan to sit out the war on the Oil Rig and then scoop everyone they wanted from the Vaults and go into space, a moon base seems very plausible. The Vaults were made very public but there are plebty of secret 'vaults', raven rock for example.
A secret moon base is very 50's/60's.

Yeah, they've tested the "isolation" part of space-faring with the vaults, maybe they've also tested the space part... in space? The moon would be the perfect place for that.
Hmmm... I wonder how the downed shuttle in San Fran in FO2 ties in with the Virgo moon landings? Maybe in FO universe, shuttles were used to assemble large spacecraft - think cargo trucks (moonbound?), and the Virgo was just for the public's amusemant?

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:07 am

The aliens eh? Maybe Radiation is good for them, like water for us. So they got attracted after the war xD

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