[Jessica Nash]

The morrowind community will eventually die. I don't seen that happening anytime soon though. Not only mods, but also many new fanfictions are being written about this game. I think that at present people write more about Morrowind than they do of Oblivion or Fallout 3. I also think that like Baldur's Gate 2 and Kotor, Morrowind will remain a classic and will be replayed by many people in the coming years:

I will end with a Pm I sent to Rohugh a few days ago. I saw that the forums for the vanilla game were not visited as freqeuntly as they used to be. After look at them better I saw that I was wrong:

Hello Rohugh,

When the SI forums merged with OB forums a lot of great topics were lost. I saw that the MW forums are not visited as much as they use to be. So I was wondering if the MW forums were going to be merged with the Old Games or OB forums in the near future. I wanted to know this so I can save some of the topics I want to keep.


Greetz,

AP2412

The forums are pruned from time to time so if you have any topics you wish to keep that have dropped down the forum and are more than 6 months old (last entry) then they are best stored.

There are no plans to move Morrowind to past games, in fact with the game being made available from Steam it has picked up a bit. Life in the old game yet.

Ro.

I think the last sentence is correct. There's life in the old game yet.

[Andrew Lang]

I think the last sentence is correct. There's life in the old game yet.

Well, with Rohugh being a master of vanilla Morrowind, he's obviously going to be one who supports it, any modder here like me will too, or Gstaff, or well, anyone who loves the game.

[Jynx Anthropic]

Well, at some point it will die...

Although I think the community will stay allive for several years, filled with the real die hard fans.

But although Morrowind is the best game ever created, it will get boring after some decades playing and modding it.

[Facebook me]

But although Morrowind is the best game ever created, it will get boring after some decades playing and modding it.

If people keep modding it, it won't. For me, I've only scratched the surface actually playing the game, and modding it, even though I've accomplished a lot, still, the same stance.

[Emzy Baby!]

a tangental but obvious related question:

Has morrowind already entered the phase of slow terminal decline? Are we now in a situation where the "death" of morrowind is inevitable as new member numbers fall?


Any admins, it would be interesting to see the statistics for new user accounts and accounts going inactive since morrowinds release.


also we must remember that this is not the only morrowind forum / community, and its does seem the liveliest but this might be giving us a false impression.

[Juan Suarez]

I think the poll results speak for themselves.

[celebrity]

a tangental but obvious related question:

Has morrowind already entered the phase of slow terminal decline? Are we now in a situation where the "death" of morrowind is inevitable as new member numbers fall?


Any admins, it would be interesting to see the statistics for new user accounts and accounts going inactive since morrowinds release.


also we must remember that this is not the only morrowind forum / community, and its does seem the liveliest but this might be giving us a false impression.

Some good points here, personally, I don't see us declining in activity, but if you wanted to know real stats, PM Gstaff, and refer him to this thread, I've PMed him before about stuff, he's a real cool guy when it comes to the community.

You are right, this isn't the only Morrowind community, look at http://www.fliggerty.com/phpBB3/, it's really active there.

EDIT: @snowkel1- 39 Users online at this time of day, is something to consider as well.

[Naazhe Perezz]

PM'ed Gstaff

[Dezzeh]

PM'ed Gstaff

Cool, I'd be interested in his opinion. Did you link him to this thread?

[jason worrell]

yup

[Khamaji Taylor]

yup

Awesome, Gstaff, I can't wait to hear your opinion.

[No Name]

He's out doing work stuff at the moment, but I'm sure he'll drop in when he gets a chance. I'm not sure if he'd be able to tell you about account information - and since there are so many members coming and going, and so many games Bethesda are promoting, I doubt the figures would show much because we don't know the posting habits of each member long-term, and so many of us enjoy more than one Bethesda game.

I just think Morrowind is "dead" like punk music is "dead" - no longer wildly fashionable, but you'll still get sizeable numbers of folks dressed up and enjoying it, so it doesn't really matter. I'm pretty sure there'll still be punks in 30, 40 years time.

I'm sure I'll still be modding Morrowind next year and the year after, because I still find it relaxing and enjoyable.

Obvious TROLL is obvious.

Calling someone a "troll" is flaming. Don't do it. :stare:

What I assume the poster meant is that where a mod might previously have got 10,000 downloads, it now will likely only get a few hundred. However, what I've noticed is that the few hundred who download it seem to appreciate it a lot more than back when there were thousands of modders who were frequently less experienced than the modders are now.

If 1,000 people download my mod and really love it, that means a lot more to me than if 10,000 people download it and it just sits their in their Downloads folder, ignored for eternity because they've just been downloading eveything and don't really care or think about it.

[katie TWAVA]

If 1,000 people download my mod and really love it, that means a lot more to me than if 10,000 people download it and it just sits their in their Downloads folder, ignored for eternity because they've just been downloading eveything and don't really care or think about it.

I agree, it really makes me see download counts in a new way though, and encourages me to continue modding more, so thanks for this post.

EDIT:

Calling someone a "troll" is flaming. Don't do it. :stare:

I agree, I was actually going to say something when the poster said that, but I was quite busy at that time, and when I had time, the thread had moved on.

[Alexandra walker]

Well, anecdotally, I can be considered as one instance of resurgence of interest after hiatus. I have been recently having an increasing itch to mess around with MW, and am finally scratching it checking things out again. Though I've just been a glorified wallflower (lists, cataloging, textual editing, yadda yadda), I'm taking interest in the stuff that's being done and have it reinstalled to check it out again. The fact that people are making executable game code patches to fix many of the problems is particularly exciting. And then TR is still continuing? Not to mention the general modding, which has always seemed to have some seriously quality work floating around. Wow. Hi again all.


[Edit: Tired. Fixed some stuff.]

[m Gardner]

All these Monty Python references have put me in a good mood. Thanks! ^_^
Morrowind wont die anytime soon, I mean I find it hard to just pull myself away from it. :blink:

*Walks off to re-watch the Holy Grail

[Rebecca Dosch]

All these Monty Python references have put me in a good mood. Thanks! ^_^
Morrowind wont die anytime soon, I mean I find it hard to just pull myself away from it. :blink:

*Walks off to re-watch the Holy Grail

I agree, they are quite funny.

I know eh? I always have something to do... speaking of which, gotta install Photoshop CS4 so I can continue working on my Oblivion style map.

[Cheville Thompson]

And http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=24537. :unsure:

Of course, your trees ^_^ I mean, I haven't meant specifically Vality's trees, I meant all the billboarded trees, and those include yours

Sleeping? Just look at the activity here! It's more alive then it's been the whole time I've been around!

True. I've been even more here (at least more than your date suggest, a year actually ) and it's very alive comparing to some times here. I'm sure even older or the eldest members have seen much less active times, and community lived trough.

Actually, I even find it interesting to find members like NIkki or Emma posting so actively here, I haven't seen them for such a long time :wub:

[Alba Casas]

True. I've been even more here (at least more than your date suggest, a year actually ) and it's very alive comparing to some times here. I'm sure even older or the eldest members have seen much less active times, and community lived trough.

Actually, I even find it interesting to find members like NIkki or Emma posting so actively here, I haven't seen them for such a long time :wub:

I've been here since the Beginning of September 08, that's a year. But really, I've been playing Morrowind since around a year or so after it came out, and modding it seriously since a couple months before September.

I agree, it's really nice having old members around. :wub:

[kirsty joanne hines]

Gstaff said that they will not give us this information.

[Rhi Edwards]

Gstaff said that they will not give us this information.

I was expecting this... will he still voice his opinion on the thread?

[Melanie Steinberg]

Give me a bit... I'll eventually release some sort of mod.... Just not in the forseeable future...

Anyways, what I'm saying is, even if the modding community dies, morrowind will still keep being modded; by it's owners. If it does start to die, the spark that will revitalize the modding community would have to be a submission of all those custom, personal mods to the public. But for now... the secret arsenal of the TESIV modding coommunity isn't needed yet.

[helen buchan]

Anyways, what I'm saying is, even if the modding community dies, morrowind will still keep being modded; by it's owners. If it does start to die, the spark that will revitalize the modding community would have to be a submission of all those custom, personal mods to the public. But for now... the secret arsenal of the TESIV modding coommunity isn't needed yet.

Yeah, there are a lot of good points here, once this "OpenMW" thing is out, I hear the community with thunder up in life, isn't that right?

[kyle pinchen]

The future of Morrowind is likely to be totally dependant on TES V. If it's another FPS with swords (Oblivion II), then the MW community is probably good to go for another 3-4 years at the very least. If TES V turns out to be the greatest thing since peanut butter, and a worthy "successor" to MW, then I suspect that there will be a migration at least as strong as when OB was introduced, but not the migration BACK like there was when it became obvious that OB was a failure in terms of a RPG.

In that sense, I'm actually hoping for the collapse of the MW mod community, because that would mean we have something better to work with for the next 7 years or something like that. Of course, there are always fans of the previous generation of product, no matter how good or bad the successor, so I'd suspect that some vestiges would still be around for a while, regardless.

Funny thought, but it would be ironic if the last piece of the monumental Tamriel Rebuilt project was finally released at about the same time as TES V, and TES V turned out to be a huge step forward. The culmination of all these years of effort would be pretty much forgotten, or never even noticed, in the wake of the new game. Then again, if TES V "bombs", we'd at least have some sort of consolation to drown our despair.....

BTW - There was no option for what I consider the probably situation: The Morrowind community isn't dying, but may vanish in a relatively short time, depending on TES V.

[Brandon Wilson]

The future of Morrowind is likely to be totally dependant on TES V. If it's another FPS with swords (Oblivion II), then the MW community is probably good to go for another 3-4 years at the very least. If TES V turns out to be the greatest thing since peanut butter, and a worthy "successor" to MW, then I suspect that there will be a migration at least as strong as when OB was introduced, but not the migration BACK like there was when it became obvious that OB was a failure in terms of a RPG.

Agreed. Except that I've seen nothing to indicate that gamesas's decided a change of direction was required from ES4 to ES5. After all, ES4 sold well, and the massive PR campaign had the teen reviewers so excited many had to change their pants while writing. They're still comparing everything under the sun to ES4, without regard to content or genre. And while we may laugh at this, they do represent the kind of audience that buys a lot of games, and whom gamesas is targeting.

So I suspect we'll tail off slightly when ES5 arrives, and then pick up steam, again, just as you also suspect. There's still a lot of creativity being placed into Morrowind by its modders.

[Naomi Lastname]

snip

PLEASE, PLEASE, consider Bethesda's advancements in a good way with Fallout 3, not enough people keep it in mind.